Homeless People in US Deported to Camps (Anonymous)

a reply to: jude11

First reduce wage's, then remove those whom refuse to work under the new slave barter system, then declare ruling elite corporate interests as the new government.
America has alway's had fascists but they have alway's been balanced by humane good people.
If this is true then america is slipping into a totalitarian anti human society based on greed alone and that with replace your democratic process entirely, once a nation or government declares any member of society as worthless then it is on the slippery slope which leads to forced labour camps (You already have them as well as the highest percentage per population of prisoners and all because the prisons, police and courts in the US are private interest body's there to make a profit rather than serve your laws') and human disposal (Death camps once they forced labour is no use).
I seriously hope this does not happen as it will precipitate a violent resistance in the backwood's and eventually partition america even more.
I feel very sad.

where is the evidence?

What they don't understand apparently, is the level at which they owe others. That old women in BC, who's power was shut off because the bills are now 800 every 2 months, and she's only getting 1200 to live on, who had Meals on wheels delivering to her in her shut in state in a shut off house, YOU OWE HER, all the pain suffering and the deprivation of a good just system of equality and comfort, with the full upgrade of tech to all, everything you've stolen from people, and the mistreatment of our ill and needy, the harm and torture men, women and babes world wide YOU OWE PERSONALLY. You'll not be off the hook ,that IOU is waiting for you, the moment you take your last breath. You don't get it at all. What it all means. That river will flow through you.

Wake up, PTB, pronto. And get with the good program!

originally posted by: ketsuko
Well, it sure wouldn't surprise me to see place passing laws to drive out the homeless. It was common practice during the Great Depression, and people can deny it all they want, but we are in a depression. When you get to the point where there are more people than you can keep on the safety net, you try to sweep them under the rug and make them someone else's problem.

As far as rounding them up and putting them in camps? There'd be more reports of it than just this. People would start to notice it. For one thing, the homeless tend to congregate in urban areas, so they'd have to be rounded up and made to disappear from there.

In my town they were rounded up and thrown in jail. When they get out they have no money, nowhere to go, and go right back into the jail to work as a cheap labor force again.

In South Carolina some cities have been moving homeless to camps that they can't leave.

I've seen this coming for a few years now, long before this video and it comes from being homeless myself in the past. Homeless people will be the victims of the next holocaust. It is starting now.

Interesting...am tagging ing for later.

Relax, everyone. I have been homeless off and on for a good deal of my life.

"They" aren't rounding people up. They do drive them out into the light of day and I have witnessed that so many times I can't count. During the 90's (my longest venture) I was subjected to numerous city programs that literally drove people out from under bridges. In one unnamed urban sprawl city they conducted yearly sweeps with city workers (the guys that wear orange vests and white hard hats).

Police follow on and assist as they climb up under bridges and harry people out of there, gathering and tossing all their meager belongings like cardboard mats, sleeping bags, food stashes, clothing, tarps, rain gear and what not down the slope under the bridge and bulldoze it into waiting dump trucks.

Thats right, I said bulldoze loaders scoop up everything and it goes to the dump in dump trucks. If there is any resistance the police pounce. In about three days, all the RR tracks and hi-way overpasses were cleaned of people and debris. The homeless were told that if they were found there the next night they would be arrested for trespassing.

During one of these campaigns I was asleep when they arrived and a cop (that I knew personally) smacked me on the back of my calf with a cobra whip. Get up, he said, move it. I had to jump, up grab my shoes and leave right quick before he hit me again. I tired to gather my things but he wasn't having it and I snuck back when he wash't looking to grab my pack which had my wallet, money, ID and keys to my shed and truck. I also scooped up a 300 dollar sleeping bag that I had and went ducking out the side of the ramp under the bridge.

I remember the hilarity of some guy in a white hard hat and orange vest, pointing at me and yelling, Hey come back here! Me running with my bundle of stuff and the city worker shouting, He's getting away, there he goes! The idea was to roust you quick and steal your stuff. The programs "success" was a measure of how much crap they cleaned up and amassed at the dump. There was literal mountains of it laid out for inspection. I know, I saw it one time when I had to make a dump run the next week as part of a side job.

The time it takes to go secure more cardboard, sleeping bags, food, clothing and important items for basic survival is not easy for most of those people. Not only are they suddenly without shelter, sleeping gear and cold weather clothing (most don't realize that dawn is always cold when you live outdoors), but now they are driven onto the street in the everyday world. Instead of hiding in plain sight out of harms way now they are forced into city parks, bush hedges along city streets and sidewalks or even back of businesses.

This creates a wealth of problems for the "normal" folk and scares most of them into calling 911 to have them further rousted from their expedient hideaway.

I don't ever recall any of them being "rounded up" as it were. Its just that "outdoors" people are subjected to more scrutiny than "indoor" folk precisely because they live outdoors. The nights are long and regular police patrols find them and issue trespassing, open container, drunk in public, or loitering citations. Since they can't afford to go to court and pay the fines, they get failure to appears and sometimes this results in extended jail time in lieu of paying the enormous ramped up fines. So they hide and hope for the best. Sometimes they welcome a brief stint indoors, its a chance to get fed, clean up and receive medical treatment on some basic level.

Sudden trips to the can are par for the course for anyone thats been exposed for any length of time to the "elements". Where's so and so? Oh he's downtown. Its more of a game than a solution to any problem. The recurring programs and sweeps to "get them out of our jurisdiction" only compound the lives of people that survive tenuously at beast.

If you ever see guys pushing shopping carts loaded with stuff, you know that that precinct is tough on sleeping outdoors. They move from spot to spot every day dragging their meager belongings with them. This is purely to prevent it from being stolen or trashed by city workers and police.

And those policies (policies, not laws) are pushed by local city councils who can't stand the sight of people not like them and so use their power to "police" the city and "roust" its less fortunate denizens.

Anyone remember that video of that Hawaiian council man or whoever that was smashing "abandoned" shipping carts? Those carts weren't abandoned, they were the primitive pickup trucks used by "some damn homeless person sleeping in the bushes" just out of eyeshot.

I know that eventually a lot of people will suffer at the hands of the oligarchy (not just the poor), the state can't afford to run out of "enemies". But right now, this is not the case.

a reply to: jude11

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originally posted by: ketsuko

As far as rounding them up and putting them in camps? There'd be more reports of it than just this.. People would start to notice it. For one thing, the homeless tend to congregate in urban areas, so they'd have to be rounded up and made to disappear from there.

Not so. How many years did it take the world to 'notice' that unwanteds in Germany were being rounded up and put in concentration camps and incinerated...RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSES!

a reply to: jude11


People who commit war crimes and crimes against humanity are terrorists.
Like wise with those who employ fear to achieve a goal. The Nazi's who went
to trial in Nuremburg were terrorists.The ruling class are only that because
they are not leaders of men. But they are lovers of themselves and they are
in allegiance against us, the world over. You and me, the common man.
It isn't at all unbelievable in fact it's obvious for anyone with eyes.

I don't see you, so don't pretend you're there.

Those in denial of this simple fact divide us and divided we fall. This is not
the fear mongering, remember that's their toy. This is the only war that is
not an illusion. It's obvious they intend to" Thin the heard" and are getting
set up for it. I say to hell with that and to hell with their entire world. It
absolutely sucks anyway.


All family's of the illuminati/satanic bloodlines should have been put on trial
in Nuremburg as well. They are all guilty of crimes against humanity. What's
worse is they actually have mankind, fooled into believing they should be our
leaders. The only direction they know how to lead is straight to hell. Isn't that
the only direction we've been going?

" If the american people, ever found out what we were up to,.we'd be chased
thru the streets and lynched."

George H.W. Bush


It's not like they don't expect it. And so.... with all of these things and more
in mind. I say,.... lynch 'em. Yep, make God smile and string 'em up. A short
drop, with a sudden stop. Hell if circumstances allow it, give 'em a trial. Then
hang'em. Hang 'em high in front of God and everyone. The same way they had
the Kennedys killed on live T.V. Why ? Because they have to have their way.
Why else? I mean all of 'em, all males down to the age of fifteen. Brutal enough
for me to be ashamed of having to say it. But it seems the only friggen choice
THEY have left us. Their total annialation is warranted. It's just no longer live
and let live. It's, if you want to live? You will most likely have to get blood on
your hands and it may as well be theirs. The evidence of what they intend
for us is stacked up to high heaven.


And that's my radical view.

My heart really goes out to these homeless people. They are human beings who desperately need help. It is shocking how they are treated and so very sad.

Simple solution....arm the homeless.....they are Americans....have the right to bear arms....give them the weapons to defend themselves against such illegal acts of violence...

a reply to: Night Star

Actually, most of them are the nicest people you will ever meet. They just don't want to fit in the worlds conforming grip. Since this makes them "less than" or even criminal in societies minds, they are forced to exist on the fringe. These places are dirty and damp, thus the "homeless caricature" as presented by the media. The Media will always focus on the worst aspects of the last free people on the planet. The truth about their "plight" is somewhat different.

For the most part they don't want or need anyones help, just simply to be left alone. In a different world shop owners might pay them a few bucks to sweep the parking lot or break down boxes out by the dumpster.

But alas the stigma and stereotypical belief system of modern "civilization" is too biased for that.

Yes, yes it's true I can attest to that. I live in one of those camps. It's called Santa Monica. It seems like everyday there are more of them being deposited here. I blame the marine layer that keeps everything at a constant 70 degrees year round. And a tolerant police force that has a deeper perspective of community.

a reply to: jude11

3.5 million homeless but 18.5 million vacant houses.

And who is going to run the housing?
How much will that contract cost tax payers?

It's easy to say let's give homeless a house in theory. But you just can't hand out a house to just anyone. How will they afford to pay for utilities, taxes and maintenance of the house? In practice it will cost tax payers alot of money.

Ok, here is an investigation lead for all of you. Arnold swartzeneger turned all the state fairgrounds in California into tent cities for the homeless. There were battles about farmers letting them live and work on their farms outside of the fairgrounds for their keep and food.
He did this way back when he governor. Years ago.

So, where are all these families today? Are the campgrounds still used for tent cities? And with the drought and near complete devastation of California farming and no work for all those farmhands, where will they go as well? It looks like people just disappear from the statistics.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: jude11

3.5 million homeless but 18.5 million vacant houses.

And who is going to run the housing?
How much will that contract cost tax payers?

It's easy to say let's give homeless a house in theory. But you just can't hand out a house to just anyone. How will they afford to pay for utilities, taxes and maintenance of the house? In practice it will cost tax payers alot of money.

SLC Utah is putting the homeless into empty houses. Look to see how they make it work.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: jude11

3.5 million homeless but 18.5 million vacant houses.

And who is going to run the housing?
How much will that contract cost tax payers?

It's easy to say let's give homeless a house in theory. But you just can't hand out a house to just anyone. How will they afford to pay for utilities, taxes and maintenance of the house? In practice it will cost tax payers alot of money.

Who's paying the taxes & maintenance now, while they are vacant?
IInd

a reply to: intrptr


Alot of things were different in the past. Police used to offer help and assistance, even drove a few friends and family home, when they didn't need to.

Things aren't the same today now are they?

I've lived in a town where the homeless and "undesirables" were picked up, given some food and a little cash, then bought a one way bus ticket (usually to las Vegas) and they were given no choice but to board the bus... Usually followed until safely out of town...

Is this a better approach to this problem?

a reply to: grey580

Actually this would give them an address to get on disabilities. Most of them are mentally ill and require permanent disabilities.

The actual cost of homelessness is tremendous. The studies done in BC by our liberal sheep in wolves clothing, ie very conservative provincial government that gutted counseling for children and legal aid, showed that one homeless person cost many hundreds of thousands of dollars, in all the services and policing. Basically buying them modest homes, keeping them up for them, and putting them on disabilities was far far cheaper.