Project Persphone: NASA & British Scientists Building 'Living Space Ark' To Save Humanity

a reply to: MysterX

An interstellar multi-generational starship is going to take a LOT longer to design, fund and build than a year.

I was probably already done on or above the moon or somewhere. The weird rise in National debt and near bankruptcy of the world may be caused by this project. When they tell us part of anything it is after it is long done. I can actually understand why that would be so. No fighting the people who are against or want their own ideas implemented...just quietly do the big unimaginable stuff and then let the idea come out slowly.
The buyup of gold even scrap gold. may have been one of the last needs in this project.

ANALYSIS: Warp Drives: Making the 'Impossible' Possible
We believe that during that inflationary period, space-time itself expanded at many times the speed of light, so there are tantalizing questions when you look at nature as a teacher. Is this something that can be duplicated around the vicinity of a spacecraft?"

Now, White thinks the drive could be powered by a collection of exotic mass about the size of NASA's Voyager 1 probe if the rings housing the mass were shaped like a donut and oscillate over tim

news.discovery.com...

originally posted by: MysterX

originally posted by: SirKonstantin
Well I believe that something big is gonna happen by the end of this year, something that will change the way we look at the universe and ourselves. Almost like ManBehindTheMask posted, but not Earth obliteration, Maybe! Hence this thingy is being built.

Kinda reminds me of the Matt Damon Movie, Elysium.

This Thread Should Go into Doom Porn.

An interstellar multi-generational starship is going to take a LOT longer to design, fund and build than a year.

Add to the fact that no one is talking about building this. It's about having a viable design in case we ever HAD to built it.

If there is a known threat, it's going to be a long time down the line. It may have something to do with asteroid Apophis, due to swing around our neck of the woods sometime around 2029 and again in 2036.

Apophis is not going to hit the Earth.

NASA claims it will miss during the closest approach to Earth in the 2036 encounter...but admit it 'may' collide with our planet.

No they don't. Collision was ruled out for both 2029 and 2036.

For 2068 there is a 2.3 out of 2 million chance.

More here: 99942 Apophis

22 years might be enough time to get such a ship built, although if they are certain the asteroid will hit us, they would have worked on this ship for a long time already...perhaps this was the real reason for all of those $ Trillions being lifted from the public purse and not to prop up banks...it was to build this massive craft.

Suppose an asteroid the size of Apophis were to hit the Earth in 22 years. Don't you think it is far easier and cheaper to design a NASA Asteroid Redirect Mission than it would be to build "Space Ark"?

a reply to: Did you see them
I just watched Silent Running about a week ago. While it had some flaws, I did enjoy this "classic" science fiction movie (it is on NetFlix). In contrast to the prime directive of Persephone (save humanity), the lead character seemed to care more about saving the animals, the fauna (trees), and his robot companions than for his fellow crew mates (Humans).

A project like Persephone would almost certainly need to balance the life-forms making the journey to a new home-world. My mind boggles at the logistics of such an endeavor. But, unfortunately, by the time a viable space ark has been built and filled with rich people, the choices of non-extinct animals/plants may have dwindled to a horrifically low number. I don't want to think about that.

a reply to: Char-Lee

I'm with you...I don't have any evidence, but I believe we've got a space program that is entirely secret.

The problem with this is that as more and more commercial space projects get up and running, they won't be able to hide any kind of secret space program for very long.

If they were really working on a ship that would be a multigenerational ark, I don't think we would have to worry about a target planet or system. The project in itself will take so long that by the time we are ready for departure, two or more new generations of telescopes will be operational and we will most likely be able to pinpoint a habitable world with a high degree of probability. That plus ongoing work on the Alcubierre type drive systems will make this a much more feasable proposition. Hell, I am personally hoping for great advances in propulsion over the next thirty or so years and maybe seeing the first interstellar superluminal flights in my lifetime. Optimist, I know.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: Char-Lee

I'm with you...I don't have any evidence, but I believe we've got a space program that is entirely secret.

The problem with this is that as more and more commercial space projects get up and running, they won't be able to hide any kind of secret space program for very long.

Why do people persist in this "secret space program" nonsense?

First off, rocket launches are anything but secret. They cause a lot of noise and smoke.

So you'd suggest they have some rocketless technology? Ok then where are the photos of these ships?

I mean its not like you can just go up there unnoticed....

Taken by an amateur with a 9-inch telescope and video camera when the shuttle was flying:



You can't hide in low earth orbit.

This is where the UFO Conspiracy/Secret Space Program crowd go really off the rails. They don't know the technological capabilities to view things in space of just smart individuals much less professionals.

Even secret craft like the X-37B were first photographed by amateur astronomers. There's no hiding in the sky.

a reply to: smurfy


I have Something better from the Movie Pandorum

that if you look beyond the Crazy's Infesting the Ship


This is a An Extra a Bonus on the DVD / BLU RAY



Life Imitates Art



The Question do these Scientist t Know Something we Don't ? what going to happen in the Future ?


Is this Something the Cause for the Reason Humans has Made a Flora Seed Vault In Norway and the Fauna Blood ( DNA ) Vault in Switzerland ?

a reply to: BlueJacket

Yeah, I thought the usage of "Persephone" to be really curious, too. The group doing it also uses another name from mythology--Icarus, which is the story of a man and his son trying to find a way to make man fly by making wings made from feathers and wax and ending with Icarus flying too high towards the sun and falling to his death because the heat melted the wax wings.

Here's some of Icarus Interstellar's other projects. Not all have mythology names but Hyperion (titan who sired Helios, the sun) and Helius (the sun) are there, too. Bifrost comes from Norse mythology and is the rainbow bridge between Midgard and Asgard. Somebody likes using mythological namesakes, lol.

www.icarusinterstellar.org...

originally posted by: JadeStar

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: Char-Lee

I'm with you...I don't have any evidence, but I believe we've got a space program that is entirely secret.

The problem with this is that as more and more commercial space projects get up and running, they won't be able to hide any kind of secret space program for very long.

Why do people persist in this "secret space program" nonsense?

First off, rocket launches are anything but secret. They cause a lot of noise and smoke.

So you'd suggest they have some rocketless technology? Ok then where are the photos of these ships?

I mean its not like you can just go up there unnoticed....

Taken by an amateur with a 9-inch telescope and video camera when the shuttle was flying:

You can't hide in low earth orbit.

This is where the UFO Conspiracy/Secret Space Program crowd go really off the rails. They don't know the technological capabilities to view things in space of just smart individuals much less professionals.

Even secret craft like the X-37B were first photographed by amateur astronomers. There's no hiding in the sky.

I've seen a "satellite" do a abrupt, perfect 90 degree turn. Until it did that, I assumed it was an ordinary sat like I've seen 100's of times.

SSTO craft are probably a reality -- a craft that can take off like a plane, use a combination of air breathing jet, areospikes for high altitude, and a rocket thruster for a final boost into LEO.

Oh, and it would be the Navy that would be running things up there -- not the AF.

originally posted by: Char-Lee

originally posted by: wildespace
The "Doom" might be closer to home than ATSers think. The Earth might become extremely overpopulated, we run out of oil and other non-renewable resources, global wars, nuclear disasters, etc. And so a few thousands of the "chosen ones" might decided to leave us all to our sorry being and depart for a better place.

We take so much for granted. The water flows when we turn the faucet, it would only take a few bad years for the wells to dry up and a lot of the rivers. change can come very fast.

If we really that desperate, we could build new ships like oil tankers, fit solar panels like sails on the top and just have them desalinate water wherever needed (most of the population lives along the coast). There are already floating nuclear power station ships.

I was musing to my partner yesterday- what if Aliens/Extra dimensionals/gods/Deamons- whatever - actually do want something from us and this planet.

Would they invade? Would they infiltrate? Did they create us?

What if they required a much more toxic atmosphere (to us) than us? (High levels of Co2 and Methane?)

Maybe they could terraform planets to their preferences just by sprinkling a few "microbes" and guiding their evolution and development.?

Guide and control certain advances in technology, hinder others, create division and predatory capitalism and hey presto run away greenhouse and comfortable alien planet.

I wonder if NASA knows we are being evicted!

Speculation of course

originally posted by: SpaDe_
a reply to: SirKonstantin

This is simply a feasibility "study" done by a handful of scientists who meet once a year to speculate on what it would take to build such a massive thing. Rest assured, no government is crazy enough to fund such a project and no "ark" is going to be built (which would likely bankrupt all of the governments in the world).

... so, Google will buy it then.
Lovely!

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
I've seen a "satellite" do a abrupt, perfect 90 degree turn. Until it did that, I assumed it was an ordinary sat like I've seen 100's of times.

You realise an orbiting craft cannot physically do that. It must have been an aircraft. Or some kind of atmospheric/optical illusion.

So I've sussed it, to get rid of the elite and gov we only need to make them think a star is heading on a collision course! Hell we could be rid of the lot of em in one go in under 30 years! Now that would be a sight for sore eyes! I'd help them build it! Hey if we all chip in maybe we could get it done in 10 years!

Ahhhhh one can dream right?

I find this thread very interesting, because one of the theories I have come up with in my head, when trying to make sense of things that just do not make sense to me:


Fukushima, Fracking, Oil spills in the ocean, with sea life washing up on shore dead or dying, polluting our water supplies with fluoride the contaminating of our crops with GMO"s ,and the sky with Chemtrails, killing of the Bees, and birds dropping out of the sky by the hundreds. NASA suddenly cutting way back, and so many bankers just up and leaving their jobs. I also remember seeing somewhere that they were looking for a certain number of people to go to Mars with the understanding that they would NEVER be able to return to Earth.

And my little conspiracy geared brain wondered if they elite/tptb know they are getting ready to go, which means they do not really care that they are ummmm . . . defecating where they eat. We know they do not care what happens to the masses, those of us they see as inferior.

Maybe the chemtrails are being used to mask the sky so they can go into orbit without the risk of being seen.

Yes there are times when my brain just thinks too much lol. Why do you think I love coming here lol. Star and flag. Thank you.

Oh and they plan on their descendents coming back in a few thousand years, that is the reason for the Georgia Guidestones.

originally posted by: gypsycat
Oh and they plan on their descendents coming back in a few thousand years, that is the reason for the Georgia Guidestones.

I think you may not be too far off the mark... If they were to be building a doomsday spaceship they certainly wouldn't tell us about it. Like if there were a real threat... They already anticipate there would be "terrorist attacks", read pissed off people left in the cold! And you know tax payers will be paying for the whole deal!

Kinda makes you wanna puke...

EDIT: But I did have a thought, how about taking sperm and egg samples from everyone on earth so that everyones dna can live on, on the new planet... Maybe that would appease the masses some... Most likely not though lol

a reply to: Chamberf=6

17.5 million years

originally posted by: gypsycat
Oh and they plan on their descendents coming back in a few thousand years, that is the reason for the Georgia Guidestones.

Lol, the illuminati are planning the Georgia guidestones scenario, are they?
There is a prof mallet who talks about teleportation and time machine to save mankind.
www.youtube.com...

a reply to: gypsycat

Maybe the chemtrails are being used to mask the sky so they can go into orbit without the risk of being seen.

How would contrails mask a huge rocket sending something into orbit?

And how would every other country's satellites and astronomers (amateurs and pros) not see that either?