220 emergency service personnel called to "simulated plane" crash in London UK - Drill!!!

So today across the pond in the UK 220 Emergency service personnel including Police, Firefighters and Medics were called to East London to take part in a "Drill". The Drill was to simulate a plane crash in East London.

A real fuselage from a Boeing 737 aircraft was partially covered using 400 tonnes of rubble and real flame and smoke were used.

Plane Crash Drill

So, what do some people say about drills like these? Are they a prelude to an actual incident? A false flag event?

Were there not Russian Planes flying close to the UK Yesterday???

Uk scrammbles Jets to see off Russian Plane


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Firstly, the Russian plane thing is normal, most nations do it, UK included, and it was within international area, 2 miles from UK zone, so, that probably isn't a concern.

The drill thing, well who knows, apparently there was a drill for the same thing during 7/7. It hasn't happened yet, but at least air incidents are easier to deal with as they are seen in advance and can be intercepted.

www.itv.com...

The Russian aircraft that were 'intercepted' by RAF Typhoon jets earlier today remained in international airspace, the Ministry of Defence has said.

"The aircraft were subsequently identified as Russian military aircraft. The Russian military aircraft remained in international airspace at all times as they are perfectly entitled to do so." A spokesman for the MoD said.

"Russian military flights have never entered UK sovereign airspace without authorisation."

The Ministry of Defence says Typhoon jets were scrambled when Russian aircraft came close to UK airspace have now returned to their base.

The RAF jets were put on alert earlier today.

It's not an entirely unusual occurrence however. British jets have been scrambled in a similar way around eight times in the last year

a reply to: projectbane

There have been Russian planes near the UK alot, and nothing happened after.

EMS has to train and be prepared. Not long ago a British Airways 777 crashed on landing.

a reply to: theabsolutetruth

What was the point in your reply?

I was possibly linking the two together (It was not that the Russian planes were flying close to the uk its the FACT the UK gov were so quick to release pics of the Russian planes to the public...NEVER DID THAT BEFORE!!)...that with tensions rising......maybe something is on its way!! Nevermind, go back to sleep!

good. its important to keep emergency service personel trained and up to snuff, so they know how to act in times of actual need.


think of the disaster that was the aftermath of 9/11, with all that dust and etc. problems

a reply to: projectbane

I'm always amazed that people think Russian planes near a country mean something. They've been doing it for fifty years or so, and nothing has happened. There have even been multiple acts of war during that time and nothing has happened yet.

a reply to: Zaphod58

As I have now said in a post....Whwn was the last time the UK released PICs of the Russian planes so quickly to the Public?

I cant find one incident where pics were released in under 36 hrs!!

At my work we drill for catastrophic scenarios including simulated injuries for the clinical side and cascading total failures of multiple systems on the IT side.

The clinical side just had a drill like that last month.

Precursor to something , if you have a tinfoil hat on, or something that any skilled position has been doing for pretty much forever.

a reply to: projectbane

The point of my reply?

Wasn't that obvious?

If it wasn't to you, here it is.

The Russian plane thing probably isn't a concern, the fact it has been in the news is probably just anti Russian propaganda which has been happening a lot recently, in the US more than here, but here too.

The drill thing, drills happen, they have to as a means of being prepared.

I mentioned the reported drill of a terrorist attack on tube trains happening at the same time as 7/7, that doesn't mean every drill as some forecasting, or conspiracy, it could be just a drill.

The fact it was a drill involving potential aviation incidents, is neither here nor there, it could have been a drill about anything and it doesn't mean any particular significance.

You asked for opinions, there you go.

a reply to: projectbane

And that suddenly means something? Releasing pics quickly means nothing. They usually take the time to analyze them in detail, but maybe they've seen these aircraft before so they didn't need to. There are any number of reasons for it that all mean nothing.

originally posted by: projectbane
So today across the pond in the UK 220 Emergency service personnel including Police, Firefighters and Medics were called to East London to take part in a "Drill". The Drill was to simulate a plane crash in East London.

A real fuselage from a Boeing 737 aircraft was partially covered using 400 tonnes of rubble and real flame and smoke were used.

Plane Crash Drill

So, what do some people say about drills like these? Are they a prelude to an actual incident? A false flag event?

Were there not Russian Planes flying close to the UK Yesterday???

Uk scrammbles Jets to see off Russian Plane


Comments???!!

Thank F... they are practising. There are 3 very busy airports around London so practising a plane crash would be immensely sensible. Sheeesshhh !!!!!!!! come on put the goddam conspiracy porn aside and switch on the brain cells.

FYI we have had Russian (previously Soviet) planes, boats and submarines around the borders of Britain for decades !!! No mystery there.

a reply to: theabsolutetruth

Its not about a conspiracy...

Its about the two incident together within a few days..and the UK gov releasing pics of the Russian Planes in under 36 hrs.

Never before have they released pics to the public SO QUICK of planes flying off the coast where jets have been scrambled. Lots of planes fly close to the uk and jets are sent out but the public doesn't often hear about them! Now because certain govs are trying to make Russia out to be the bad guy they release pics to the public straight away. And now have plane crash drills.

a reply to: projectbane

I suspect the plane drill would be happening anyway. If you spend anytime in London you would see the need for this, how half of the area sleeps at night with huge jets so low over their roofs is a testament to their mettle and to the skills of pilots that there hasn't been many serious aviation incidents in the UK, but they do happen, Lockerbie etc and it is part of essential H&S and services training that they do drills and prep exercises.

The Russian plane thing, as I said isn't unusual, it has just been put to the public as propaganda.

I doubt the UK are harbouring some sinister 'do stuff and blame it on the Russians' type disaster, Putin would have something to say about that for sure and the UK gov aren't about to risk their asses in such a way, even if it was orders from Osama erm Obama.

If you aren't suggesting a conspiracy, it doesn't sound like you are suggesting anything else.

a reply to: projectbane

Can you please link to these photo's of the Russian planes? They are not on the links you provided. Thank you

Rainbow
Jane

originally posted by: angelchemuel
a reply to: projectbane

Can you please link to these photo's of the Russian planes? They are not on the links you provided. Thank you

Rainbow
Jane

Russian Planes

MOD releases Pics of planes

a reply to: projectbane

Thank you...nice piccys....

The RAF Typhoon pilot added: "Intercepting Russian Bear aircraft is a routine occurrence for us, it's what we do to maintain UK sovereign airspace."

The MoD said similar incidents happened eight times during 2013.

A spokesman said: "Russian military flights have never entered UK sovereign airspace without authorisation."

Thanks for the links.

So who's airspace were we in when we started shadowing them? I take it some sort of 'international' airspace? In which case our 'shadowing' could be seen as something less than friendly, no? Also, do you honestly think our guys aren't out there constantly flying close to other country's airspace? Because if you think we don't then you are very naive.

As to the simulated aircraft crash. All sorts of scenarios are practised on a regular basis here in the UK. Having grown up on an island with friends in both the coastguard and the RNLI.....they have all sorts of practices and scenarios...including going down storm drains so their job can overlap with other emergency services. Just call your local fire station (assuming you are in the UK) and they will tell you they have all sorts of drills on a very regular basis.
Practice makes as perfect as you can get basically so that your response becomes second nature.

Rainbow
Jane

a reply to: angelchemuel

Oh I know that incidents are practiced on a regular basis. However, its the situation that these Russian planes were flying once again close to UK airspace (So they not only publicized the pics QUICKER than ever before but chose to inform the public by MSN which they did not during the MANY incidents during 2013)

Now they have a scenario based training drill of a plane crashing in London using a Boeing 737 fuselage!! I mean with what is going on in Russia, the UK people do not want a war as they know it can not be afforded, plus ANOTHER WAR!!

This to me seems like the UK gov is trying to use propaganda for going to war with Russia to aid the US or something could happen in London and conveniently have the Russians to blame?

a reply to: projectbane

We train for these because we have to. We have a weapons of mass destruction mass-casualty event next month at U of M. It prepares medical, fire, police and emergency services for the real thing.

This time around, my wife will be an injured "victim"...ketchup and all. Don't worry about it. Its not that's somethings about to happen (Jeez! quit thinking like this!)...its for WHEN and IF something happens. We have to be ready.

MS, Ist Responder
FEMA-Department of Homeland Security
ADLS Advanced Disaster Life Support
EMT/ERT Emergency Medical Tech-Emergency Response Team
Bio Defense Network, Region 2 South, Wayne County Michigan

originally posted by: projectbane-->So, what do some people say about drills like these? Are they a prelude to an actual incident? A false flag event?

Uk scrammbles Jets to see off Russian Plane


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London TMA is kinda busy airspace, sooner or later # will happen.
It's a good opportunity for the rescue units to practice so they can be prepared for a real crash.

originally posted by: projectbane


So, what do some people say about drills like these? Are they a prelude to an actual incident? A false flag event?

Were there not Russian Planes flying close to the UK Yesterday???


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Russian jets? Don't believe what you read in the MSM, that was a British RAF Jet painted to look like a Russian fighter and they did that to try and scare us Scots into voting no in the referendum vote in September! (How about that for a conspiracy theory? I am joking though...)

Seriously though, the last time I believe it was a Russian ship on the way to Cuba that tested our defences, there were no pics released of that though, whether this is significant I can't tell you.

Usually (as in the case of 9/11 and the London bombings at least) 'False Flag' is called when it turns out there was a drill running that is similar to an actual real world event. The fact that this drill is known about and there isn't currently a Boeing 737 that has crashed in London probably means that, sometimes a drill is just a drill...

That being said, this is quite interesting, thanks foretelling us about it...