Mistrust overshadows Obama's Saudi trip

Riyadh (AFP) - US President Barack Obama meets Saudi King Abdullah Friday as mistrust fuelled by differences over Iran and Syria overshadows a decades-long alliance between their countries.

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Where to begin on this.

Who to roast here is kind of a hard choice to make.

Ok not really.

Saudi Arabia by all rights should be an the state sponsored terrorist list. Who has been the MAIN instigator in Syria, and other places in the ME. Right along with Iran.


For those who don't know Saudi is the LEADING financer of AL Qaeda.

The biggest reason for middle east instability is because of Saudi Arabia, and Iran that are nothing, but two groups of morons 'clinging to their guns, and religion', and have been doing so for centuries.

Trying to drag the West in to that epic stupidity.

OF course Obama would never say such a thing to either Saudi, or Iran. Being rude, and condescending like that is only reserved to Republicans in this country.

Not the likes of those people in the middle east, and elsewhere like the invaders of Ukraine.

Saudi Arabia by the way has side deals with Russia, and China. So why the 'warrior in chief' is meeting with Saudi is beyond ignorant.

The US 'does not negotiate' with terrorists!

In both cases WE CLEARLY do.

Whether or not its cutting deals with Iran and their kissing cousins in Saudi.

For the record anyone who says 'Saudi is an ally' ?

They are not, and they have never been because if they were ?

They would not be funding, and aiding Al Qaeda.

And the flip side of that is Iran would not be funding, and aiding Hamas, and Hezbollah.

Middle East terrorism vis a vis Saudi, and Iran stirs up trouble anytime they want to fatten their 'big oil' bank accounts.

So they use their 'blackwaters' AQ, and Hamas, and Hezbollah.

I think part of Obama's dilemma is Saudi Arabia (and Qatar) want the U.S./NATO to get the Syrian "conflict" overwith a.s.a.p. because the Saudis and Qatar want their own natural gas pipeline into Syria and from there thru Turkey to Europe.

The Saudis are considered "Sunni" Muslim and Turkey leans towards "Sunni".

Iran/Iraq/Syria lean "Shiite" Muslim and want their proposed and approved "Islamic" pipeline to end up going to Europe as well.

Russia is backing Syria proper because any pipeline to Europe threatens profits to Gazprom.

Any *outward* support by NATO/U.S. could bring hot conflict with Russia.

That's what I think anyway.

Very complicated.

And yes, the Saudis/Qatar are (O-fficially) backing AQ and most efforts against the official Syrian government IMO.

reply to post by xuenchen

Any *outward* support by NATO/U.S. could bring hot conflict with Russia. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...

I don't see US ever going to 'war' with Russia.

What we will see is what we have been seeing for the past 60 years.

Proxy wars.

Syria is just a proxy war.

neo96
reply to post by xuenchen

 

Any *outward* support by NATO/U.S. could bring hot conflict with Russia. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...

I don't see US ever going to 'war' with Russia.

What we will see is what we have been seeing for the past 60 years.

Proxy wars.

Syria is just a proxy war.

I agree.

And perhaps Obama "stalling" on a "solution" to the Syrian conflict is a possible indication he is actually stalling on behalf of Putin/Russia?

A stretch but possible.

reply to post by neo96


Tell your Big Oil homies to cut ties with the Saudi's then.

Kali74
reply to post by neo96

 

Tell your Big Oil homies to cut ties with the Saudi's then.

How about tell the church of climatology to back off, and stop banning oil drilling here in the US, and blocking things like the Keystone pipeline.

That oil. The world engine has to come from somewhere.

Take a good look at the world the church of climatology made.

Kali74
reply to post by neo96

 

Tell your Big Oil homies to cut ties with the Saudi's then.

Tell your big green homies to let us drill in North America then.

beezzer

Kali74
reply to post by neo96

 

Tell your Big Oil homies to cut ties with the Saudi's then.

Tell your big green homies to let us drill in North America then.

Yep only common sense.

reply to post by beezzer


The US is the 3rd largest producer of oil after russia and the saudis. You don't get into that spot without being able to drill.

daskakik
reply to post by beezzer

 

The US is the 3rd largest producer of oil after russia and the saudis. You don't get into that spot without being able to drill.

So ?

The state, and feds make a killing off that gas tax.

Getting a cut off the top from every gallon sold every single day in this country.

Then they make even more off leases, and regulation, and more taxation.

The Saudis subsidize their 'oil' even more than the US does.

And most oil profits in Russia just goes in to Putin's pockets.

daskakik
reply to post by beezzer

 

The US is the 3rd largest producer of oil after russia and the saudis. You don't get into that spot without being able to drill.

Yep and we produce more oil than we import.

reply to post by neo96

Still doesn't mean that the US isn't drilling.

daskakik
reply to post by neo96

 

Still doesn't mean that they are not drilling.

Doesn't mean jacksnip when a person looks at the price at the pump then figures in the ADDED cost from taxes,regulation on BOTH the state and federal levels.

Interestlngly enough there is no state or locality that pays the same price at the pump across this country.

daskakik
reply to post by beezzer

 

The US is the 3rd largest producer of oil after russia and the saudis. You don't get into that spot without being able to drill.

We're obviously not drilling enough. We need to stop giving the ME any money, period!

Then they can fight all they want, and when they are done, we'll deal with them.

reply to post by neo96

None of that has anything to do with the fact that they are allowed and do drill.

Kali74

daskakik
reply to post by beezzer

 

The US is the 3rd largest producer of oil after russia and the saudis. You don't get into that spot without being able to drill.

Yep and we produce more oil than we import.

You might want to take a peek at this then .....


exports graph


imports graph


The U.S. imports more than twice as much as it exports.

Under Obama (since 2008) it seems the exporting is higher and importing is lower !!

Hmmm.

reply to post by neo96

Proxy wars.

Syria is just a proxy war.

In my time, that used to be called the "Cold War". In Vietnam, Americans funded and armed the "South" while the Soviets and Chinese funded and armed the "North". It was called "low level conflict", but hardly ever called a war (until it was over). What do we call whats going on in Afghanistan?

The term proxy war is the same damn thing under a new term. Term of office. And whomever funds and arms the "terrorists" or the "terrorist state" are the real terrorists.

The war on terror is a war by terror.

daskakik
reply to post by neo96

 

None of that has anything to do with the fact that they are allowed and do drill.

Sure it does.

BECAUSE of taxes, and REGULATION it increases the cost of drilling.

It also costs more money to be in 'compliance' with the EPA.

It costs money for leases.

And there are areas in this country that is OFFLIMITS for drilling.

By EPA regulation that makes it cost prohibitive that new oil REFINERIES have not been built in decades.

And forget about the offshore drilling ban early during this current potus reign of bullsnip ?

Guess so.

Remember back during BP that is not even an American owned oil company screwed up, and American oil companies were punished ?

I guess so.

reply to post by xuenchen


Because we're using more of our own oil...

Hello?

reply to post by neo96

So how do you explain the amount of oil being produced?