Confronting John Lenard Walson, The UFO Hoaxer...

LightningStrikesHere

tonyb1968
reply to post by LightningStrikesHere

 

I do not think that it is computer generated. I think it looks very much like seven small pearlescent helium balloons inside a larger, clear balloon and filmed outside on a sunny day. Near the end of the vid I thought I saw a slight reflection off of the clear balloon. Also, the camera is held at such an angle as to show only distant mountains and never shows anything that can actually be used to determine the distance to the object.

Thanks for your reply , i am looking for conclusive evidence i can present to this guy. I just can't seem to "prove it" even though we all know it's fake ...

Your conclusive evidence is in the second post in this thread, the photo of the torch in Eltons post.
Check the number and pattern of the bulbs in the torch, then check the number and pattern of lights in the "ufo" in the video. i'll think you'll find they both match up exactly.

SecretKnowledge

LightningStrikesHere

tonyb1968
reply to post by LightningStrikesHere

 

I do not think that it is computer generated. I think it looks very much like seven small pearlescent helium balloons inside a larger, clear balloon and filmed outside on a sunny day. Near the end of the vid I thought I saw a slight reflection off of the clear balloon. Also, the camera is held at such an angle as to show only distant mountains and never shows anything that can actually be used to determine the distance to the object.

Thanks for your reply , i am looking for conclusive evidence i can present to this guy. I just can't seem to "prove it" even though we all know it's fake ...

Your conclusive evidence is in the second post in this thread, the photo of the torch in Eltons post.
Check the number and pattern of the bulbs in the torch, then check the number and pattern of lights in the "ufo" in the video. i'll think you'll find they both match up exactly.

edit on 26/3/14 by SecretKnowledge because: (no reason given)

The light color is different .....

Just saying...

LightningStrikesHere

SecretKnowledge

LightningStrikesHere

tonyb1968
reply to post by LightningStrikesHere

 

I do not think that it is computer generated. I think it looks very much like seven small pearlescent helium balloons inside a larger, clear balloon and filmed outside on a sunny day. Near the end of the vid I thought I saw a slight reflection off of the clear balloon. Also, the camera is held at such an angle as to show only distant mountains and never shows anything that can actually be used to determine the distance to the object.

Thanks for your reply , i am looking for conclusive evidence i can present to this guy. I just can't seem to "prove it" even though we all know it's fake ...

Your conclusive evidence is in the second post in this thread, the photo of the torch in Eltons post.
Check the number and pattern of the bulbs in the torch, then check the number and pattern of lights in the "ufo" in the video. i'll think you'll find they both match up exactly.

edit on 26/3/14 by SecretKnowledge because: (no reason given)

The light color is different .....



Just saying...

That can be effected by a number of things:
1. Colored cellophane taped over the lens
2. Camera has a filter on it
3. Batteries in a flashlight that are dying can make the light look like that
4. The flashlight bulbs themselves
5. Any number of post editing software effects

reply to post by LightningStrikesHere

The light color is different .....

That would be because the torch is turned on in the video, in the photo its not.
Come on now...

HomerinNC

LightningStrikesHere

SecretKnowledge

LightningStrikesHere

tonyb1968
reply to post by LightningStrikesHere

 

I do not think that it is computer generated. I think it looks very much like seven small pearlescent helium balloons inside a larger, clear balloon and filmed outside on a sunny day. Near the end of the vid I thought I saw a slight reflection off of the clear balloon. Also, the camera is held at such an angle as to show only distant mountains and never shows anything that can actually be used to determine the distance to the object.

Thanks for your reply , i am looking for conclusive evidence i can present to this guy. I just can't seem to "prove it" even though we all know it's fake ...

Your conclusive evidence is in the second post in this thread, the photo of the torch in Eltons post.
Check the number and pattern of the bulbs in the torch, then check the number and pattern of lights in the "ufo" in the video. i'll think you'll find they both match up exactly.

edit on 26/3/14 by SecretKnowledge because: (no reason given)

The light color is different .....



Just saying...

That can be effected by a number of things:
1. Colored cellophane taped over the lens
2. Camera has a filter on it
3. Batteries in a flashlight that are dying can make the light look like that
4. The flashlight bulbs themselves
5. Any number of post editing software effects

Thanks homer ,i am with you i just need to present this on his YouTube page..

Btw i seen your comment up their on YouTube ;-)

SecretKnowledge
reply to post by LightningStrikesHere

 

The light color is different .....

That would be because the torch is turned on in the video, in the photo its not.
Come on now...

edit on 26/3/14 by SecretKnowledge because: (no reason given)

Hey ,i am not denying that it's anything other then a LED light ,i just don't know anything about editing or light tricks ,i just needed some explanation really...

Thanks buddy ;-)

A video of a video with a LED flashlight shone onto the monitor.

reply to post by LightningStrikesHere

Btw i seen your comment up their on YouTube ;-)

youre dastud?

hoaxers only hurt the cause they are trying to promote. Its probably more about individual attention seeking than anything else though, when you feed a troll it merely grows, discredit them succinctly and leave it at that.

HomerinNC
All hoaxers should be called out daily and trashed til they stop their crap.
On the other hand, misidentification of a conventional aircraft for a UFO isn't hoaxing. If that person denies ignorance and accepts it MIGHT be a conventional a/c, then that's okay

edit on 3/26/2014 by HomerinNC because: (no reason given)

If it was only that easy. Everybody knows a few facts about UFO videos today:

1. It easy to make fake UFO videos. More difficult to make really good ones, but with available programs, easy enough.
2. It is not always wise to label a UFO video a fake simply because something about it doesn't look right, your gut feelings tells you that or you have a hard on for the presenter.
3. Some folks that don't believe in any aspect of UFOs will always denounce every single video they see or they will keep quiet if they have suspicions that it is genuine video which, of course, upsets their whole game plan.
4. Some folks will rush to accept any UFO video because they want so much for them to be real.
5. Some folks are paid to deny UFOs.
6. Some folks are truly skeptical and honestly want a fair evaluation of the video in open court here on ATS.

Name calling as done by the OP is childish, juvenile, and adds nothing of substance. If you are still a highschooler, we might forgive you, otherwise grownup.

HomerinNC
reply to post by LightningStrikesHere

 

Btw i seen your comment up their on YouTube ;-)

youre dastud?

No no ,i did see his comments to
I don't want to say my YouTube name on here ,but if you messages me ill tell you ;-)

LightningStrikesHere

m.youtube.com...

Looks like a 7 led flashlight being reflected off a TV screen showing Area 51 footage.


This is the guy who invented the "giant starship telescope lense", right?

Since everyone seems so sure it is a led flashlight that is being pointed towards a tv set where there are images appearing, surely it would be easy to reproduce.
Anyone has a similar flashlight and could try to reproduce the "ufo" video?

That would definitely destroy the guy's affirmation that he filmed a UFO.

I have no such flashlights, but I'll keep an eye open when I go to the store.

NowanKenubi
Since everyone seems so sure it is a led flashlight that is being pointed towards a tv set where there are images appearing, surely it would be easy to reproduce.
Anyone has a similar flashlight and could try to reproduce the "ufo" video?

That would definitely destroy the guy's affirmation that he filmed a UFO.

I have no such flashlights, but I'll keep an eye open when I go to the store.

I wasn't really trying that hard. Sure I could do better on my work monitor.

That's cool. At first glance, it doesn't shock the eye. Good work on that.

On closer inspection, I noticed in the first picture your flashlight had 6 light bulbs.
I thought it was a single bulb flashlight...

Now, to make it LIKE the video presented in the OP... lol Yeah, more work would be needed.

Aliensun
reply to post by Aliensun

 

My only question is what about the two black objects that appear in both videos that moves from the left to the right? They certainly don't look like aircraft and moving fairly decently horizontally, they don't appear as weather balloons.

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I think that is maybe some dirt on his window. Even I can tell this a a fake. You just set the camper led (that what it is, because when I went camping my friend had one and I thought "ufo, funny" and you can get filters for them) on a shelf or hell even tape it to something, then you turn out the lights in the background. Sometimes you can hid your reflection too, if you have that filter, or even if you are far enough away.

BAM, you got this piece of s#it. My question? Why the hell do they even try?

NowanKenubi
That's cool. At first glance, it doesn't shock the eye. Good work on that.

On closer inspection, I noticed in the first picture your flashlight had 6 light bulbs.
I thought it was a single bulb flashlight...

Now, to make it LIKE the video presented in the OP... lol Yeah, more work would be needed.

Yeah, mine only has six LEDs.

Just for grins I tried it on my big screen TV while I was watching World's Dumbest [no reason for that... just like the show]. The results aren't exactly the same and I think it's because of the matte finish of the screen. I believe the "UFO" in the OP was a seven LED flashlight reflecting off a glass flat screen, which is why the detail of the individual LEDs is so much sharper - no matte finish to diffuse the light.

But then I'm not trying to make a convincing hoax video, just illustrating proof of concept with minimal effort.

This guy is a well known hoaxer and is probably mascarading as LightningStrikesHere. Walson has many aliases and posts many bogus YouTube videos he's made.

What about the filming he does of the moon.
Is that fake too ?
Hope not. I find some of it amazing......or have I been fooled ?

He pins a hi res picture of the moon on his bedroom wall and sets the lighting correctly. Underneath this he places a portable gas fire to produce the hazing effect. Then he waits until his mum goes out to the shops and strips down to his underpants and using his dad's camera zooms in on one of the craters.