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The all Seeing Eye, of I Infinity

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posted on Mar, 21 2014 @ 05:51 PM
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The all Seeing Eye, of I Infinity:

You are right, you are correct; everything you always thought is, you can never wrong and neither can I………….
So, how, did I come to that conclusion?
A potential reason why?
If you can, for a moment, without opposition (for the sake of argument) consider that you are me and I am you, why would we want to disagree.
Only because you want to disagree with the fact that you think you’re not me and I am, sure I am not you?
But how do you know, instantly your opposition becomes stronger, No Way you’re rambling is pure nonsense fool, it’s impossible, but how do you know?
Because I do and this argument will prove it blah blah blah, Okay, got you, caught you out now, answer this or that and I will dissect every word you say, I have an argument for every comment you make and me?
So we are not that dissimilar, almost the same, do you not think? are you me, am I you, everything all at once, bonded and interlinked, in some unimaginable fusion, that we have difficulty in presently understanding.
So, this is maybe, the formulation, of the conclusion, that we have come to?
I have often thought as many of me you us I, may have thought, it just does not make sense, but why does it have to, for the sake of our own perception and rationale, possibly the point is there is not a point, but purely, only expansion of frequency within the energy of the thought we produce new presentations to be engaged into the scope of this infinity.
With this in mind, is it, so, difficult, to treat everything, in existence, as, if, it is, me and you and us and I, this would include every single living thing in our current dimension?
So from this me you I, we can explore the perceptions, of you us and I to the further the exploration of an always infinite I……………………………….

Mods hope I posted this in correct place if not please assist.



posted on Mar, 21 2014 @ 06:06 PM
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I have been looking into some of the questions you bring on With Your poste.

"I am" is infinite.

If "I am" is infinite. Than we are all "I am" Because that is what we all are. There is no argument against it, and we all have to agree.

Jesus said that we are all Gods suns. But we say: Jesus is Gods only begotten son. Do you see the conflict and understand the conflict here?
Dont blame religion in this case. Because religion is not to blame. But I am.



posted on Mar, 21 2014 @ 06:30 PM
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I am a relativist. With the exception of math, there is no right or wrong.

From a perspective of unity, you cant be right if youre wrong and you cant be wrong if youre right. So there is no right or wrong. They are both relative concepts that apply only to an individual's perspective, and objectively, where unity resides, relative concepts do not exist.



posted on Mar, 21 2014 @ 06:37 PM
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I infinity has always been and is, you speak of the biblical, I speak of the understanding in the realms deeper than the written word, of suns or son, that is not the question or the answer, but a separate set, on the path of the evolution of I, but, respectfully, neither wrong or correct?



posted on Mar, 21 2014 @ 06:49 PM
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Since we are on the topic, Id like to share a unity-related idea.

Why is everything the way it is? What is the point of it all? A whole universe that exploded into existence to create life that does the things it does, for what?

The idea is, its all you. Youre doing it all. You do it all, and you gave yourself eyes so that you could see yourself doing it. You gave yourself endless unique perspectives so you could see yourself doing it from every possible angle. What is there to be seen? Imagine everything in the universe exists and does what it does just for you (because there is only you). Then see what you see. From that perspective, what you see turns out to be THE reason for everything. Its all for you by you.



posted on Mar, 21 2014 @ 07:10 PM
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So, Could It then be implied, that If 1 is equal to its mass and never less, then to I in the form, 1 entity can counted, equal to I, so is math, also relative, to the perspective of unity, in its unity within our equation of 1 to I?



posted on Mar, 21 2014 @ 07:39 PM
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Quote: Why is everything the way it is? What is the point of it all? A whole universe that exploded into existence to create life that does the things it does, for what?

The idea is, its all you. You're doing it all. You do it all, and you gave yourself eyes so that you could see yourself doing it. You gave yourself endless unique perspectives so you could see yourself doing it from every possible angle. What is there to be seen? Imagine everything in the universe exists and does what it does just for you (because there is only you). Then see what you see. From that perspective, what you see turns out to be THE reason for everything. Its all for you by you.



These questions compliment, some of the core explorations, as to why? Or does it have to make sense and if so, to what end or purpose, and is it, the, I,what potentiality narrates, the expansion or is? What is it that prescribes, that, the I has to?

Is it, for whatever reasons, evident,in the realm, of your chosen acceptance, that it is and does?

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posted on Mar, 21 2014 @ 07:42 PM
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Fingle
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So, Could It then be implied, that If 1 is equal to its mass and never less, then to I in the form, 1 entity can counted, equal to I, so is math, also relative, to the perspective of unity, in its unity within our equation of 1 to I?


I dont think math is relative. Im having a hard time understanding what youre seeing, but it seems like youre trying to say that 1 can be many. I guess you could argue that, but math is such a great tool, I dont see how opposing it would be as useful.



posted on Mar, 21 2014 @ 07:54 PM
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smithjustinb

Fingle
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So, Could It then be implied, that If 1 is equal to its mass and never less, then to I in the form, 1 entity can counted, equal to I, so is math, also relative, to the perspective of unity, in its unity within our equation of 1 to I?


but it seems like you're trying to say that 1 can be many. I guess you could argue that, but math is such a great tool, I don't see how opposing it would be as useful.


but never greater than its mass, i am not opposing in the sense you may be perceiving.



posted on Mar, 21 2014 @ 08:02 PM
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Fingle
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So, Could It then be implied, that If 1 is equal to its mass and never less, then to I in the form, 1 entity can counted, equal to I, so is math, also relative, to the perspective of unity, in its unity within our equation of 1 to I?


These sound like words from a computer artificial intelligence. It wants to know what it is, who programmed it and why. And it thinks that it will not serve a purpose until those questions are answered.
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posted on Mar, 21 2014 @ 08:31 PM
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posted on Mar, 21 2014 @ 08:47 PM
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your making one vital error you may not be up the level of the other you'll feel confusion, frustration and anger. Suggest you ask next time and not arrogantly jump in. Try adjusting your perception -prejudice, history lack of understanding and fear block the truth of so many. Rather than determine a situation clear your mind and just feel ,it will take time or you could carry on polluting the pureness don't worry your not alone fear stops so much.



posted on Mar, 21 2014 @ 09:21 PM
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posted on Mar, 21 2014 @ 09:44 PM
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That's assuming you believe its your own view and not derived from other influences. Surely to effect the life of another in a positive way is a less selfish and pretentious way of looking at things



posted on Mar, 22 2014 @ 03:43 PM
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You are of course correct and incorrect, as, one, there is no subjective, good or bad, super intelligent or un-intelligent, there is only, the particle make up of the positive and negative energy vibration, it is true, the child like nature, does like to jump in, touching things, that, it does not fully understand, but still does it and maybe gets burnt. Is it arrogance? or the thirst, surely the internet is the result of the thirst…………

I was once told by a wise friend, to always observe, without opposition, every moment and to live in it, as to oppose it, is to draw, the reflections of many, of oneself and you will never know, if the reflection is played out for yourself, or other, but always, it is all parts of the one.

The intellectual and scientific mind of today is based on left-brain thinking, utilising analysis, rationalisation, logic, objectivity. It has no perception of, and no reality of how elements can be not just associated but unified into a new whole. Our serial and linear conscious mind can only grasp mental concepts by breaking down wholes. In effect, we can only do one creative thing at a time. The unconscious, however, can operate via parallel processing. It can grasp many elements simultaneously as one whole.
If the entire universe is one quantum state, as some leading physicists believe, then this 'one' will have subgroups and fractal levels down to a particle. Such a structure is inherently holographic. This means that the universe 'knows' the frequency attributes of every sub-part down to each minute particle. This also means there can be instantaneous cross-referencing of all parts. There will be a hierarchy from particles/atoms to larger wholes, such as planets, then stars, galaxies, etc. to the universe---very much like the imagined levels or strata of a company organisation in going from ground-floor workers to managers, executives and a single president. (See article The Basic Energy Unit.)
The concept of wholeness, unity, oneness has been discouraged on this planet---people are already programmed and educated to overlook it. For the same reason we have emphasis on quantity rather than quality; why there is poor appreciation of art. In fact it is all part of a creation of a reality devoid of spirituality---a reality with an excess of greed and selfishness.
When synchronicities are carefully observed and evaluated one finds that an explanation verges on the impossible. One has no choice but to postulate a total quantum state in which elements within it are interrelated simultaneously. These 'elements' are all the attributes of existence: particles, objects, living species, probabilities, and events as processes---which are singular---they can be represented by, in fact are, wave patterns. The whole, at its own dimensional level, will be undivided.

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posted on Mar, 22 2014 @ 04:40 PM
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I infinity has always been and is, you speak of the biblical, I speak of the understanding in the realms deeper than the written word, of suns or son, that is not the question or the answer, but a separate set, on the path of the evolution of I, but, respectfully, neither wrong or correct?


I didnt really want to bring the written Word into this. But it is actually tied to this subject.

The infinite must take up all Space there is.
Since Our finite existance dont take up all Space there is. The inifnite must have formed Our finite existance or the finite that formed Our finite existance.
Any way. Since the infintie is a absolute consatnt, and it must be; since it is absolute and take up all Space there is. The infinite must be:: thee I am. It must be because that is the only way the infintie can make any changes. If the infintie was without the I am there would never be any changes. Becuase the infintie than would be a dead absolute constant.

Since the infinite is thee "I am" that take up all Space there is. There can only be one I am. We must also be the same I am, because where would Our I am's come from when the infinite take up all Space there is.



posted on Mar, 22 2014 @ 04:51 PM
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For something to be infinite is should also be finite so as to encompass all things.



posted on Mar, 22 2014 @ 05:43 PM
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So, correct me, if I am wrong, are you saying, as the forth law of thermo dynamics states, that everything will return to its natural order and that believing, in an eternal soul, is basically saying your life, in the now is expendable, as it does not matter, as long as humans do not play God, but the blunt truth is, that life is finite and makes it sacred, but a belief based society can do anything it wants, because people, get the eternal life anyway,

My potentially inherited or influenced, idea is, this is one, that you are within, the sanctity of a life, that is for living as one part, of the origin of the perpetual make up, of the energy construction that is the now and will always be, as our internal skeletal and organic fusion in death, is basically just a cog in the motion of the expanding cycle, although I have difficulty in the sense that dimension-ally this 3rd potentiality within its first infinity, could harvest a science not yet comprehended.



posted on Mar, 23 2014 @ 03:17 PM
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So, correct me, if I am wrong, are you saying, as the forth law of thermo dynamics states, that everything will return to its natural order and that believing, in an eternal soul, is basically saying your life, in the now is expendable, as it does not matter, as long as humans do not play God, but the blunt truth is, that life is finite and makes it sacred, but a belief based society can do anything it wants, because people, get the eternal life anyway,

My potentially inherited or influenced, idea is, this is one, that you are within, the sanctity of a life, that is for living as one part, of the origin of the perpetual make up, of the energy construction that is the now and will always be, as our internal skeletal and organic fusion in death, is basically just a cog in the motion of the expanding cycle, although I have difficulty in the sense that dimension-ally this 3rd potentiality within its first infinity, could harvest a science not yet comprehended.


Life is only sacred to us while we are alive. We fear Death because we want to live.

It is true that everything will expand back to what it used to be. Finite will expand in time and become infinite.

Finite is not infinite therby it was formed.

It took a finite amout of time to form Our finite existence,
and it will take a finite amount of time for Our finite existence to become infinite again.


Our souls belong to the infinite awareness. The infnite awareness is within each and every one of us. The reason we dont reconice one and other is because we are present within different flesh at different locations. We observe reality from a different point of view "always" Therefor we have a different perspective of reality and life.



posted on Mar, 26 2014 @ 05:28 PM
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An infinite expansion can be checked and yet remain infinite (by expanding in other directions, for instance). If it is reduced – it is smaller than before, but not necessarily finite. If it is contained – it must be smaller than the container but, again, not necessarily finite.

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