Elephants Can Tell Gender, Ethnicity in Human Voices

reply to post by Indigent


when you threaten a live plant it knows and goes into shock before you hurt it
i kid you not
see the secret life of plants by cleve baxter

Indigent
reply to post by SteveR

 

Actually i saw that monkeys also make wars but i dont have any links for it.

Many insects fight for territory, we are not as unique as we think

You take me a little too literally. Everything fights for survival and if that includes territory then it will fight for territory. Even plants (weeds). Chimps are our machiavellian cousins. They fight amongst themselves but they don't concieve of wars the way we do. We'd be better if we were more like gorillas.

reply to post by rickymouse


We are way smarter than animals.please let's be,real here. Do you know an animal that can build a rocket to the moon. Cook a chicken drive a bus do math (tricks aside) learn languages sail a boat GOSH I could list activities all day. Animals eat poop and make little versions of themselves. Hive animals like ants or bees consider only the hive or nest not the individuals ant or bee. I know from reading here that a lot of people don't hold humans in high regard and I wonder if they feel the same about themselves or their family members and I'm thinking no. They don't consider their family and friends evil or stupid but they consider other humans evil or stupid. It doesn't really make sense. Anyway we are the most intelligent species on the planet and we are way ahead of any animal. I'd say to study something about brain structure. There's a lot to be found out just by looking at the differences in brain structure. From animals and human s. Apes are pretty smart as animals go but they are hands down way less intelligent than us. Let's hear it for the humans. We may not be perfect but we're pretty bright for all our faults.

reply to post by Indigent


It has been my experience running a horse rescue for a number of years horses are easily capable of the same thing. I always thought it was because the majority of their lives there were handled, broken, shod, vetted, etc by men. The bulk of their negative experiences were from men. Also don't forget horses run first and ask questions later. Humans are eyes forward which in the animal world is a predator so it is safer to be a flight animal. Elephants have always seemed to me anyway somewhat the same, there is some cases where horses will stand their ground as well as elephants but it is usually for herd dominance or protection. The language of animals has always been of interest to me.

Gender recognition for a horse and I assume for an elephant should be easy based on pitch of the voice. When ever I took a woman to the corrals to meet the horses they always did something like "Oh you're so pretty" in a high pitch and they come running for attention. I was the food guy they always wanted to see me.

I fed 600lbs. of hay a day thats 600 in and about 450 out, I can't imagine what an elephant is like, the clean up has to be a chore and a half. It's an ugly business to see what people are capable of most don't deserve such great animals.

reply to post by Danbones


It's amazing they can communicate over long distances as well, the original testing was conducted with ultra sensitive lie detecting equipment. They also understand sounds, and human emotions. A fascinating subject I wish I had more time for. Nice call.

AutumnWitch657
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We are way smarter than animals.please let's be,real here. Do you know an animal that can build a rocket to the moon. Cook a chicken drive a bus do math (tricks aside) learn languages sail a boat GOSH I could list activities all day. Animals eat poop and make little versions of themselves. Hive animals like ants or bees consider only the hive or nest not the individuals ant or bee. I know from reading here that a lot of people don't hold humans in high regard and I wonder if they feel the same about themselves or their family members and I'm thinking no. They don't consider their family and friends evil or stupid but they consider other humans evil or stupid. It doesn't really make sense. Anyway we are the most intelligent species on the planet and we are way ahead of any animal. I'd say to study something about brain structure. There's a lot to be found out just by looking at the differences in brain structure. From animals and human s. Apes are pretty smart as animals go but they are hands down way less intelligent than us. Let's hear it for the humans. We may not be perfect but we're pretty bright for all our faults.

So do we really need to build a rocket to the moon to live? Does a porpoise need to cook a chicken? Does a gazelle need to drive a bus? Does an animal need to know how to sail a boat to survive. What logical reason is there for an animal to know math?

We don't really need all the things we create. The more we create the more we desire to create more. There are more fish in the sea than there are humans, yet they are not destroying the earth. Their actions are actually beneficial to the earth.

I can say that technology is often good, but our dependence on it has gone overboard. In the last fifty years we have gone backwards because of technology, as is evident in the health problems from many causes in the people today. Misuse of this knowledge is widespread. It causes stress in industrialized countries. Now I don't think that elephants would have stress if man wasn't out hunting them all the time.

It's a free country, you can believe what you want but I cannot agree that half of what humans are doing is intelligent. I agree that we create things that benefit ourselves while hurting other species better than any other species does, so that makes us more intelligent. Even the aliens don't want to deal with us because of our primitive obsessions..... if they exist.

boymonkey74
Everyday we are learning that the "beasts" are more intelligent than we think.
Ever seen the Elephant artist?

There is nothing intelligent about repeating a process drilled in by deprivation and punishment to satisfy ignorant tourists and greedy animal trainers.

Please do some reasearch about how these elephants learn this painting duty and you'll find it's not very nice for them.

elephant rescue and asia survival foundation

Elephants endure months of physical abuse to learn how to hold a paint brush, draw a straight line and paint flowers and leaves on trees
For years they then paint the same repetitive painting over and over again, every single day, sometimes twice or three times a day
When training an elephant to paint, a sharp metal bull hook or nail is used to guide the paintbrush
When the elephant paints incorrectly they are beaten as punishment, often the hook is rammed into the elephants ear or they are hit on their head or trunk
Look for scars or beatings on the top of an elephants head or trunk from metal bull hooks used to train elephants for human ‘entertainment’

Sorry to burst your bubble but reality bites sometimes.

SteveR

Indigent
I wonder if humanity persist for one hundred thousand years more if we are going to have wars with others animals species in our planet, they are learning to avoid us, they are taking notice of our actions.

Wars are a human concept. Other animals live in the moment and don't plan wars. If we survive that long then it will only be because we learned to fundamentally change.

you have never watched Meerkat Manor. or Chimps go to war or plot murder on nature documentaries.

boymonkey74
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Amazing stuff

Everyday we are learning that the "beasts" are more intelligent than we think.
Ever seen the Elephant artist?

Heck he is a better artist than myself lol.


Awesome dude S&F.

edit on 11-3-2014 by boymonkey74 because: (no reason given)

Aww man... I watched this and smiled like the dumb tourists. But from further reading, this is a bit of a bummer.

To most of the members of the audience, what they have seen appears to be almost miraculous. Elephants must surely be almost human in intelligence if they can paint pictures of flowers and trees in this way. What the audience overlooks are the actions of the mahouts as their animals are at work.

This oversight is understandable because it is difficult to drag your eyes away from the brushes that are making the lines and spots. However, if you do so, you will notice that, with each mark, the mahout tugs at his elephant's ear.

He nudges it up and down to get the animal to make a vertical line, or pulls it sideways to get a horizontal one. To encourage spots and blobs he tugs the ear forward, towards the canvas. So, very sadly, the design the elephant is making is not hers but his. There is no elephantine invention, no creativity, just slavish copying.

Investigating further, after the show is over, it emerges that each of the so-called artistic animals always produces exactly the same image, time after time, day after day, and week after week. Mook always paints a bunch of flowers, Christmas always does a tree, and Pimtong a climbing plant. Each elephant works to a set routine, guided by her master.
Read more at www.snopes.com...

So the elephants are not creating, merely forced into a day in day out routine of doing the lines as a trainer pulls on its ear to control the direction and when to stop. Such a miserable thing to find out after such a heart warming video... the more you know

Read more on how the elephants did this

reply to post by Indigent


Elephants comfort their sick,and mourn for their dead.
They have graveyards dating back generations-suggesting a form of memorial,even remembered or passed down ritual.
They can communicate in ultra low frequencies below human hearing,over great distances and probably hear the very movements of the earth's crust.

And yet these awe inspiring creatures are being hunted to extinction,so that evil people can earn more wealth peddling their tusks as pathetic ornaments for grotesque fools.