US Army Vet cuts down Mexican Flag flying over American Flag

reply to post by csulli456

This old guy has passion and I believe him to be honorable and respectful and whether he was completely right or wrong in the eyes of others means nothing to what is in his heart and for that I would stand by him or you for that matter.

So, as long as someone is passionate and believes what they believe to be true and good - and has something important and meaningful to them 'in their heart' they can handle things however they want to?

Is this true for everyone? Or, does this only go for people who have in their heart the same things as you?

Give the Mexicans a break how were they suppose to know proper flag etiquette? Oh that's right they don't even bother to learn the language. why should they have to learn anything else about this country? Maybe if they got in line like everyone else they might know better.

Glassbender777
Bravo, Now thats the spirit, i like to see. If your going to come to this country at least show respect, Hell I wasnt even born in the US, but I sure the hell wouldnt fly the british flag over the American flag, in America. RESPECT

and I don't think an American who lived in Britian, would fly the American flag above the union jack...or, if I lived in Mexico, I wouldn't fly the American flag over the Mexican flag...again it's respect....the people that flew the Mexican flag above the American flag in the OP's video knew full well what they were doing. too many, and to that vet who cut it down, it was like raising a middle finger to America.....plus, the fact that the Mexican didn't do anything to stop him, and kept his mouth shut, is evidence that he knew the reason himself

reply to post by whyamIhere


Wow, this guy is insane. So absolutely mad about a piece of fabric, and willing to murder people over it, from the sounds of it.

What a psychopath.

The perspective that I found most interesting, in the predictably righteous response on the part of some posters, is that these are some of the same folks that, in other threads and on other topics, call the United States and its Government everything in the book, screech that the Congress has NO RIGHT to make any law that isn't already explicitly covered in the Constitution-According-To-Them, and talk about succession and 2nd Amendment rights to kill sworn law enforcement officers and even service men and women ...

This isn't about patriotism either on the old codger's part or on any of yours here. This is about the childish, selfish brats that some Americans have become. Freedom of Speech? Property rights? Sacred ... until YOU don't personally think they are!

Then, anything goes. According to you. Until of course, you don't like that. Sounds like kindergarten. Smells like hypocrisy.

How many of you railing here currently have a Gadsden Flag outside your home and no other, one wonders?

Spiramirabilis
reply to post by csulli456

 

This old guy has passion and I believe him to be honorable and respectful and whether he was completely right or wrong in the eyes of others means nothing to what is in his heart and for that I would stand by him or you for that matter.

So, as long as someone is passionate and believes what they believe to be true and good - and has something important and meaningful to them 'in their heart' they can handle things however they want to?

Is this true for everyone? Or, does this only go for people who have in their heart the same things as you?

I don't know about you, but I have done some traveling, and the first thing to do is learn what is socially acceptable in that particular country....Americans are far from the only people that "handle things however they want to", most people in other countries take pride of their heritage, and there are a few, that can cause you real trouble......having said that... small amounts of respect for local culture, and knowledge of the countries you are visiting, go along way toward being accepted.

jimmyx

Spiramirabilis
reply to post by csulli456

 

This old guy has passion and I believe him to be honorable and respectful and whether he was completely right or wrong in the eyes of others means nothing to what is in his heart and for that I would stand by him or you for that matter.

So, as long as someone is passionate and believes what they believe to be true and good - and has something important and meaningful to them 'in their heart' they can handle things however they want to?

Is this true for everyone? Or, does this only go for people who have in their heart the same things as you?

I don't know about you, but I have done some traveling, and the first thing to do is learn what is socially acceptable in that particular country....Americans are far from the only people that "handle things however they want to", most people in other countries take pride of their heritage, and there are a few, that can cause you real trouble......having said that... small amounts of respect for local culture, and knowledge of the countries you are visiting, go along way toward being accepted.

edit on 8-3-2014 by jimmyx because: (no reason given)

Irrelevant

This isn't about social customs or nationalism - this is about the ways of civilized men

How is this in any way honorable behavior? He's pissed - so he destroys property then steals it?

This could have been handled any number of ways - but he did what made him feel good - not what was right

You want to use the word respect - do you understand what it means? It has to go both ways

He found out about this from who knows where - Craig's List? Before anyone has a chance to discuss this, legally or otherwise - he just takes the law into his own hands

This is not manly, honorable or patriotic - it's barbaric

I guess people are just tired of the globalists allowing the infiltration and the destruction of Americanism.

DarthFazer


Yeah he did take property but you gotta understand he is veteran he had sacrificed and bled so you and me can live our lives in safety and thank him we are still speaking English ...

So being a vet excludes you from property laws?

Sorry but he should have gone through proper and LEGAL channels.

First he should of given the house a friendly call to explain and give the house a chance to correct the mistake. Secondly if they refused he should have gone to the proper authority's.

Two wrongs dont make a right.

gamesmaster63
[ should realize that not only was this patriotic veteran correct in removing that flag, but he was acting in concert with the oaths he had taken. If you want to be a citizen, then follow the protocols of the country you are in and fly the flags as appropriate.

No the correct thing would be to have called on the house and politely asked the householder to correct there mistake.

His oath does not cover property violation. In fact the 3rd amendment pretty much covers the fact that members of the armed forces have no right to interfere with the property of American citizens.

jimmyx
plus, the fact that the Mexican didn't do anything to stop him, and kept his mouth shut, is evidence that he knew the reason himself

That's a bit of an assumption don't you think? Isn't it equally as likely that he didn't speak English(also an assumption)? One thing people seem to forget when they pontificate about "American Exceptionalism" is that you can't rant about lack of respect by one individual or group and then teach them a lesson by being equally or more disrespectful. I can't speak for the gentleman in the video, but when I was in the Army I was always taught to lead by example. If this is the example immigrants are to follow by emulating this mans rage then we're all screwed. Now if someone had taken the time to go and speak to them respectfully and they then refused to acknowledge you or change the positions of the flag then I may be more sympathetic but from what the video shows I'm inclined to disagree with the mans actions and say that he makes the rest of us vets look like the maniacs our own government tries to portray us as.

What an idiot.

Those of you who are supporting this tool, have you not stopped to think why the owner may have been flying a US AND Mexican flag. Maybe he is proud to be in the USA, maybe he loves it too and wanted to put the two flags side by side as a show of unity.

Maybe not everyone is an OCD flag nazi. Not everyone knows these "rules". But if that was this guys good intentions then he sure as hell will have a different view of Americans now. Good work.

reply to post by Spiramirabilis


I never said it was honorable or civilized....there was a deliberate action, and a deliberate response. a provocative act was met with an emotional one. funny how you don't condemn the flying of the Mexican flag over the American flag up on a flagpole for all to see....apparently to you, that is honorable and civilized.

jimmyx
reply to post by Spiramirabilis

 

I never said it was honorable or civilized....there was a deliberate action, and a deliberate response. a provocative act was met with an emotional one. funny how you don't condemn the flying of the Mexican flag over the American flag up on a flagpole for all to see....apparently to you, that is honorable and civilized.

You want to call my patriotism into question? Just so your point seems more relevant?

Shame on you

People have every right to disagree with what this Vet did.

That's what makes our flag so beautiful.

That flag represents your Freedom to disagree.

LadySkadi
Huh... 2007 video and none since? Lesson learned...

Disrespecting the flag by flying another nation's above is just asking to get called out.

He was.

But, this thread gives people a wonderful opportunity to feign outrage and disgust etc.

reply to post by peter vlar


well yes, that was a bad assumption on my part. but, this isn't about any "American Exceptionalism"....it happens in other countries, too. the vet should have not done this, and I'm not condoning it, however, I do understand it.

jimmyx
reply to post by peter vlar

 

well yes, that was a bad assumption I my part. but, this isn't about any "American Exceptionalism"....it happens in other countries, too. the vet should have not done this, and I'm not condoning it, however, I do understand it.

A star for that post

This is how people work out their differences

Spiramirabilis

jimmyx
reply to post by Spiramirabilis

 

I never said it was honorable or civilized....there was a deliberate action, and a deliberate response. a provocative act was met with an emotional one. funny how you don't condemn the flying of the Mexican flag over the American flag up on a flagpole for all to see....apparently to you, that is honorable and civilized.

You want to call my patriotism into question? Just so your point seems more relevant?

Shame on you

I'm calling your reasoning into question. why do you assume that however flew those flags positioned like that, was not trying to gain favor with his Mexican clientele?...maybe it was a deliberate act, and not an ignorant one.