What is the Deep Web

It is the tor browser you are looking for. I spent some time on it but it seems like mostly that all services are bit coin related and not legal, It was some fun but from what I saw , some good reading, good post and info, but not worth the effort at the moment

I got the impression that it was a place for government "honey pots" to try and entrap people. I didn't just get out of there, I RAN from that place. One wrong click and you could inadvertently download some virus or illegal file.

As someone mentioned, it's really slow -- and it was also invented in conjunction with DARPA (keep that in mind). I also doubt how "anonymous" it really is.

The 'inaccessible web' being 96% is probably about right in my opinion.

The deep web is not necessarily where all the naughty stuff happens. In fact, anything hidden behind a login is considered deep web. Pages of ATS that are accessible only to logged in members are part of the deep web.

The naughty stuff occurs a lot more on the darknet. Files are shared between computers that are totally inaccessible by others.

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I have read all the replies and thx to all. The technical side of things is (I feel) just another way of limiting information.

I feel that this issue also boils down to censorship.. and I feel that is cause for concern.

For eg: in 2004 I went to a Uni Library to loan a journal/book from the era of 1800s and it was not available. Was no longer in print, not available via micro fish etc. That bothered me greatly because the particular journal was used as the basis for much of the legal framework we have today...

Any censorship... is propaganda imo.

amraks
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MIRC is nothing like TOR network.

MIRC well IRC as its known is just a really complex chat system.

It is similar to TOR in that it is another network not accessible by normal web browsers, so I consider it part of the Dark Net. Of course they have differences, they are different things - yes, IRC means Internet Relay Chat.

You are correct in that they are different. Although the Internet, Windows (DOS) and even gaming got their start on text-based operating systems, so IRC has its roots in the same place as the internet, some would say the internet has its roots in chat-based servers just like TOR has its roots in regular web browsers.

In fact, the first digital communication system was the telegraph - which existed in the 1800's.

I don't know for certain if stuff like Usenet and IRC count as part of the Deep Web or not.

Check out this article, History of IRC

Here are some Wikipedia links.

Wikipedia: Deep Web

History of the Internet

Wikipedia: Usenet

Wikipedia: IRC

Wikipedia: TOR Network

MystikMushroom
I got the impression that it was a place for government "honey pots" to try and entrap people. I didn't just get out of there, I RAN from that place. One wrong click and you could inadvertently download some virus or illegal file.

As someone mentioned, it's really slow -- and it was also invented in conjunction with DARPA (keep that in mind). I also doubt how "anonymous" it really is.

I like your mention of "Honey Pots" in conjunction with your Archer profile picture, my favorite episode on there was the Honey Pot one. I am not really sure if stuff like Usenet and IRC count as the Deep Web, although Tor definitely does - and yeah, it is like a minefield of hackers and viruses.

Traditional search engines cannot "see" or retrieve content in the deep Web—those pages do not exist until they are created dynamically as the result of a specific search. As of 2001, the deep Web was several orders of magnitude larger than the surface Web.[7]

So what else counts as part of the Deep Web, then?

ChaoticOrder
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The deep web is very interesting, you can access it through TOR

People in this thread seem to be confusing the "deep web" with the "darknet". The deep web is simply parts of the internet which have not or cannot be indexed by search engines, for example a members only section of a website. The darknet includes hidden services and other networks which require special protocols and software to access, for example Freenet, I2P and Tor.

Thanks, ChaoticOrder, I noticed I was making that mistake when I did more research on the specific terms today. So... if something is on the Deep Net, is it possible to access? How come it isn't indexed through a search engine? Is it because someone was really incompetent at marketing?

I see... it is because it might be behind a firewall, like belonging to a certain corporation or government.

Does the term "Deep Net" include the term "Dark Net?" In other words, a .onion website is not indexed by normal search engines, therefore does it fall under the Deep Net category as well?

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HI Darkbake, your reply isn't addressed to me, hope you don't mind if I chip in. lol

I think the terminology is 'designed' to put off People... for eg: 'pawn/porn' ' dark web/deep web' = fear mongering.

How many People are too scared to download TOR?

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Thanks, Thurizas - even though I know a bit about the internet, the specific terminology like the difference between "Dark Net" and "Deep Net" still gets me, apparently - I appreciate the other users on ATS being willing to correct me. Thanks for putting up with me, ChaoticOrder, I'm not all-knowing.

When I first clicked on your thread, I thought the answer was easy - and then I found out it wasn't.

It seems like things can always be broken down into more and more specific definitions, and there is always more to learn.

It definitely seems like "Deep Net" and "Dark Net" are terms with "dangerous" or "negative" connotations. Sometimes I wonder if that kind of thing is done subconsciously.

In our school books, some years ago, this topic looked very much like someone is greedy to prepare new laws and measures that would somehow allow them to gather information about websites where you need access, like logins or where you have to know a URL to access a website.

Since most significant websites, even my own, include either Google or Facebook scripts, those sites are already scannable even if they require a login.
Even tho there are official % claims, it's not measurable how much content there is anywhere on the web that the spy/marketing/search engine organizations don't have access to yet.

To get on the Deep Web download Tor Browser. Tor Browser is an anonymous web browser that uses it's own severs too. They have something called Onion Links. These normally don't show up on Google search results because that's the whole point of keeping them hidden. There was something called The Silk Road and you could purchase drugs, guns, stolen electronics, etc. Now there's also other Onion sites that do the same thing. There's even Hitman websites which I figure to be set up by the police. The "Deep Web" has been here for a long time. People are really getting amazed by it. I suggest staying off of it if you don't know what you're doing. There's many illegal things on there that perverts own.