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Originally posted by skippytjc
. We will all know this truth soon enough, if the Palestinians continue terrorist attacks against Israel after the Israeli’s leave Gaza, then you will know their true agendas.
Originally posted by Koka
I take it my previous question is not a valid one, seeing as how it's been ignored?
Is the West bank not a point of contention or should the Palestinians be content with what thay are being given?
I was led to believe that the Palestinians agreed to share the land with the Jewish people, but the Zionist factions wanted the land only for the Jewish people, which is the reason the Palestinians decided to fight back.
IT WAS A MOURNFUL MILESTONE. Last Thursday, for the first time in more than a decade, a private Israeli citizen committed an act of terrorism against Arab civilians
Originally posted by Koka
I use the word Zionist as that is what they are.....
Would extremist Jews be a better term?
As I see it, the general populous of both Israeli's and Palestinian's are quite capable of sharing the same land, it's the extreme wings of both parties that have caused the conflict, and as I see it, that started when the Palestinians accepted the existence of Israel, but Israel refused to recognise Palestine.
Originally posted by Koka
I use the word Zionist as that is what they are.....
Would extremist Jews be a better term?
Originally posted by skippytjc
I made that statement because Israeli's or Pro Islraeli's dont refer to themselves as zionists.
In a report presented to the United Nations, several foreign governments and international organizations, the PA foreign ministry calls on the international community to reject Israel’s claim that by withdrawing from Gaza, it would relinquish the legal responsibilities of being an occupying power….…The Fourth Geneva Convention and Hague Regulations will continue to apply (to Israel),” they said……Palestinian Foreign Minister Nasser al-Kidwa said, “Israel will continue to rule over Palestinian airspace and territorial waters, and will maintain partial control over border crossings….……Therefore, individual movement and our connections with the outside world will continue to be subject to Israeli authority,” he said.
Qureia said that as part of Sharon's plan, Israel needs to withdraw from all Gaza settlements and give up control of international border crossings, ports and airports there. It also needs to hand over control to the Palestinian Authority in a coordinated way, he said.
AP article link
Originally posted by skippytjc
Well, the Palestinians have been calling for the Israeli’s to pull out from Gaza for years now and it’s finally happening. Now the Palestinians are no longer oppressed and there will be peace on both sides, they will live happily ever after together in harmony right?
WRONG!!
The Palestinians are calling this a retreat and a war victory on their way to Jerusalem. You and I have been hearing about “oppression” and “we need a land of our own” for years now. Well, Sharon has taken an initiative to make this happen, after years of Arafat throwing every proposal back in Israel’s face. Now that the Palestinians are getting what they claimed to want, the violence should stop right? Nope.
We have been lied to, pure and simple. The Palestinians will stop at nothing until they OCCUPY Jerusalem.
Article here
“…Are Israel’s critics correct? Does the “occupation” of the West Bank and Gaza cause the Palestinians’ anti-Semitism, their suicide factories, and their terrorism? And is it true these horrors will end only when Israeli civilians and troops leave the territories?
The answer is coming soon. Starting on Aug. 15, the Israeli government will evict some 8,000 Israelis from Gaza and turn their land over to the Palestinian Authority. In addition to being a unique event in modern history (no other democracy has forcibly uprooted thousands of its own citizens of one religion from their lawful homes), it also offers a rare, live, social-science experiment.
We stand at an interpretive divide. If Israel’s critics are right, the Gaza withdrawal will improve Palestinian attitudes toward Israel, leading to an end of incitement and a steep drop in attempted violence, followed by a renewal of negotiations and a full settlement. Logic requires, after all, that if “occupation” is the problem, ending it, even partially, will lead to a solution.
But I forecast a very different outcome. Given that some 80 percent of Palestinians continue to reject Israel’s very existence, signs of Israeli weakness, such as the forthcoming Gaza withdrawal, will instead inspire heightened Palestinian irredentism. Absorbing their new gift without gratitude, Palestinians will focus on those territories Israelis have not evacuated. (This is what happened after Israeli forces fled Lebanon.) The retreat will inspire not comity but a new rejectionist exhilaration, a greater frenzy of anti-Zionist anger, and a surge in anti-Israel violence….”
Read the rest.
The Palestinians don’t want to just live in peace in Gaza. They want to destroy the Israelis and occupy Jerusalem. Nothing less will be acceptable. We will all know this truth soon enough, if the Palestinians continue terrorist attacks against Israel after the Israeli’s leave Gaza, then you will know their true agendas.
What comes after the Israeli's have been destroyed? Peace? I somehow dont think so...
[edit on 9-8-2005 by skippytjc]
Originally posted by Koka
May I ask, what is happening in the West Bank, are the Israeli's decreasing or increasing their occupancy?