Neuro-Linguistic Programming & Mind Control

We all need to be admired. We all want to be cherished. When we dream of being in better places or having better lifestyles or even buying new gadgets – we are essentially seeking happiness. That is what our core/ultimate goal is. We are trying to achieve happiness. If we take the example of ‘dreaming of better places’ – our subconscious suggests that to feel worthy we must be in a better place where you can affirm that those around you can be trusted. But essentially what is trust? How do others give their trust to you? Usually our conscious mind will say ‘You must work towards it. Trust must be earned. To have trust, you must give trust’. But that’s not what the subconscious is after. Our subconscious wants trust from our environment without us really working towards it. It must be an unconditional trust regardless of our pitfalls. It shouldn’t be judgemental based on ones actions. The subconscious doesn’t want anyone to judge you negatively. It just wants you to be socially accepted and society to be supportive of you with your tasks – without you even asking for it. If the subconscious affirms that you are surrounded by such an environment then it can let its guard down. That’s the trust the subconscious is really seeking.


The subconscious is the core seat of where thought is emanated from (what we call perceptions, opinions, ideas etc.). It is the nuclei of the soul. It is the castles we build for our world after. It is these thoughts (and variations thereof) that we visit in our dreams and carry with us, once our bodily creations seize to exist. Our subconscious has a contract with us to protect these views at all costs. Our views are considered to be the core essence of our soul. It thus builds several walls around our thoughts and perceptions. These walls are good defence mechanisms based on past experiences that have hurt us one way or the other. By its very paranoid nature, the subconscious is too frail and therefore would not let its guard down. It takes many lifetimes to even identify what the defensive walls are and bring down these walls without getting hurt. Thus we linger within the confines of these walls, with our fears turning to phobias, mistrust, fear of anything (strangers, racism etc.). But it is the very frailty of the subconscious that makes it open to suggestive thought that can be used to fix any incorrect perceptions that may have been created. That is, if we have a mechanism to get past the protective defensive walls around the subconscious.


This is where the importance of neuro-linguistic programming (nlp) and hypnosis comes in. This is the single most effective and potent tool one can possess to succeed in life. Neuro-linguistic programming allows suggestive thought to infiltrate the subconscious by giving it what it wants. It provides concurrence and affirmations to what the subconscious is after. Once the subconscious mind finds that an unconditional acceptance to the individual’s perceptions has been met, it becomes more receptive towards what is being suggested. It lets its guard down allowing the suggestion to bypass the defence mechanisms in place and place the thought into the core of the subconscious.


Although the so-called institutions trash Nlp as pseudo-science, it is very much being used today. Unfortunately the majority of those in power use it mostly for exploiting their selfish multinational-corporate/institutional agenda rather than allowing the common masses to learn for their self-development. Perhaps you can find it in your television sets – in the news anchor reading your daily news ensuring your mind aligns with the official narrative by using selective words. Perhaps you can find it in the latest Hollywood Sci-Fi blockbuster movie ensuring your mind is receptive to a future world order or a false-flag yet to unfold? You may find it in your children’s cartoons designed to embrace a worldview. It may be in your tween’s music TV channel where the tween grew up watching a child role model who suddenly churning out slutty music videos (and finding fame in that). You may find it anywhere in fact, your books, novels, your social media, your blogs, your faithful socio-religious institutions, anything and everything – whatever creates thought. After all, theirs is a giant nlp machinery.


If only the world is taught more on neuro-linguistic programming for positive purposes. Many individuals can benefit positively by embracing nlp hypnosis therapy at a personal level, if only they knew how easy it is as a do-it-yourself. It can breakdown conditioning. You can alter your mind without enduring the side-effects of drugs. It can actively assist you to sleep in peace at night. Just imagine not having to take sleep medications but instantly falling asleep and comfortably. Just imagine being free of stress. Just imagine embracing your environment without having to seek better places. It is positive mind control for your soul – to break down fears and perceptions of the mind.

it sure is a thin line, determining when we are doing it for ourselves and when it is being done TO us.
We are but babes in the woods.

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That's a pretty interesting post, thanks for sharing.

I have been considering these topics as well lately, and have found an interesting way of putting it.
This goes back to the origins of modern Psychology and it's preferred terminology.
(Psychology in general tends to be highly occult by the way, and myth-legend is a central focus).

Archetypes, which are a "Type of Arch" or Gateway to the subconscious.
This is symbolized in religion or mythology as the Doorway Deity.

So it is only fitting that we seek "Keys" to "Unlock" the "Archetypes" (Doors of the Inner Mind).
Pandora's Jar, the Arc of the Coven, the Treasure Chest of God, call it what ever, etc.

That's what my two recent threads Jesus Unicorn
and Neptune strive to explain in a very 'colorful' manner.

It's a lot of reading but since you are interested in neurological-linguistic programming this should be right up your alley and if you haven't read it yet you will probably be very pleased, especially about halfway in when I get much more organized and on track.

aryaputhra
Although the so-called institutions trash Nlp as pseudo-science, it is very much being used today.

It would be more convincing if you'd said:
Although the so-called institutions trash Nlp as pseudo-science, I present here the scientific evidence of its efficacy...

The old "its popular, therefore correct" argument doesnt really work.

alfa1

aryaputhra
Although the so-called institutions trash Nlp as pseudo-science, it is very much being used today.

It would be more convincing if you'd said:
Although the so-called institutions trash Nlp as pseudo-science, I present here the scientific evidence of its efficacy...

The old "its popular, therefore correct" argument doesnt really work.

Doesn't the existence of Commercial Advertisements pretty much prove that you can trick people into anything if you dress it up pretty enough ? That slick presentations always trump the facts?

Hell it seems totally legal to misrepresent your products as pure fantasy these days.

Just an example take the Pharmaceutical Adverts, notice how they always tend to show these actors doing fun things, living their lives to the fullest in joy? It's attempting Programming through a constant barrage of Suggestions.

It's suggested that buying these pills will bring you happiness.
Not claimed 100% no, just SUGGESTED infinitely.

Time and $ are on their side, it's just a matter of time before we break down and they get us a prescription for something we don't need.

muzzleflash
Doesn't the existence of Commercial Advertisements...

Sure commercial advertising works. Thats been known for a very long time.
But Bandler and Grinder went much much further than this and created a whole new line of theories that they called NLP.
And thats the topic of this thread.
Although I gave away my copy of "Frogs into Princes" a few months ago, so I cant directly quote any of it, my reading of it didnt convince me that there was any basis behind the new ideas they came up with.

alfa1

muzzleflash
Doesn't the existence of Commercial Advertisements...

Sure commercial advertising works. Thats been known for a very long time.
But Bandler and Grinder went much much further than this and created a whole new line of theories that they called NLP.
And thats the topic of this thread.
Although I gave away my copy of "Frogs into Princes" a few months ago, so I cant directly quote any of it, my reading of it didnt convince me that there was any basis behind the new ideas they came up with.

Ok I apologize, I was using the words "neurological linguistic programming" in general sense, as the words themselves mean. Neurological being brain, linguistic being symbolic language, and programming being training.
Which works well for commercials and just about anything trying to "sell something".

I don't know the specifics of what their theories are or anything.

So I am sorry I did not mean to associate my post or your post with whatever their claims are.
Considering your assessment of the information I am probably on the right track by avoiding most of that.

alfa1

muzzleflash
Doesn't the existence of Commercial Advertisements...

Sure commercial advertising works. Thats been known for a very long time.
But Bandler and Grinder went much much further than this and created a whole new line of theories that they called NLP.
And thats the topic of this thread.
Although I gave away my copy of "Frogs into Princes" a few months ago, so I cant directly quote any of it, my reading of it didnt convince me that there was any basis behind the new ideas they came up with.

Thank you Muzzleflash for your reply and indeed others for replying to this thread. Unfortunately I need to stress that I am not endorsing what Bandler and Grinder postulates as you suggested they may have formulated their theories and perhaps indeed coined the phrase Neurological-linguistic programming – I’m not sure. I too am using NLP the generic sense of the term as something that’s subliminally suggestive to lure the subconscious.

alfa1

aryaputhra
Although the so-called institutions trash Nlp as pseudo-science, it is very much being used today.

It would be more convincing if you'd said:
Although the so-called institutions trash Nlp as pseudo-science, I present here the scientific evidence of its efficacy...

The old "its popular, therefore correct" argument doesnt really work.

They can trash nlp all they want. It is effectual for what is was meant to be and do. It is based on Milton Erickson's work and techniques. It is a form of waking hypnosis, and is therefore a useful tool. If it wasn't, board certified hypnotherapists wouldn't be using it. Is it a miracle cure for what ails you? No. But it has helped many people, including myself.

If you want scientific evidence of its efficacy, then by all means, experiment with it. If you can keep your personal bias out of the way, but maintain a healthy skepticism.

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BTW OP. Did you copy this out of a book, or a website? I could swear I've read this before. I can't place it right this moment, but I'm sure I've read this whole piece somewhere else. I'll see if I can find it.

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nope all my own - drafted today morning and posted it here.
copyrighted

aryaputhra
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nope all my own - drafted today morning and posted it here.
copyrighted

edit on 14-10-2013 by aryaputhra because: (no reason given)

Well written. No offense intended. You do have a grasp of the topic. S&F.

aryaputhra

alfa1

muzzleflash
Doesn't the existence of Commercial Advertisements...

Sure commercial advertising works. Thats been known for a very long time.
But Bandler and Grinder went much much further than this and created a whole new line of theories that they called NLP.
And thats the topic of this thread.
Although I gave away my copy of "Frogs into Princes" a few months ago, so I cant directly quote any of it, my reading of it didnt convince me that there was any basis behind the new ideas they came up with.

Thank you Muzzleflash for your reply and indeed others for replying to this thread. Unfortunately I need to stress that I am not endorsing what Bandler and Grinder postulates as you suggested they may have formulated their theories and perhaps indeed coined the phrase Neurological-linguistic programming – I’m not sure. I too am using NLP the generic sense of the term as something that’s subliminally suggestive to lure the subconscious.

Thanks for the reply.

I do agree overall that NLP in the general sense, "Training, Practice, Habit" can be used for very beneficial things if we choose to focus on that rather than avarice.

It has been said many times that the TV could be a very powerful tool for learning, but instead it is dominated with interests who seek to downplay reality and milk the herd $$$.

Just imagine what could actually be achieved in terms of education if pointless greed were removed from the equation by 25% of what it is today.

Look at our Universities and Public Schools for a dismal reality check.
Every year the focus is more on finances and doctrine and security-authority.
Less on actual substance of education, as is so painfully apparent.

But somehow all of these new books and other materials we need to buy at increasing prices every year claim exceeding value. How could it get more expensive as the failure rate increases?

Because knowledge isn't about greed, that's why. They don't mix.
The only way to get "better" is by sharing knowledge freely.

Instead we have an entire industry banking on the tax coffers $ by rewriting the same compartmentalized out of context half-truths year after year.

It's really all just a sham.
And unsustainable in the long run dynamic.
A recipe for disaster?