So Whats Up In noirth Korea

with all thats happened this past week in the U.S., i have not heard neary a peep about nk.
except about a chopper going down.

any news. it seems strange with all that's happened that lil kim didn't try any tricks.

We have assumed control...

~edit~ line removed because I thought it was rude, sorry.

North Korea demands the sanctions be lifted before talks begin New York Times Link, things are otherwise at a standstill.

The offers of dialogue by the United States and South Korea, while showing some softening, also expose the gulf in expectations between them and North Korea. ...
The North has also put forward its own terms for talks, including the lifting of United Nations sanctions for North Korea’s recent nuclear and missile tests, a precondition the United States is unlikely to accept.

Things wound down and it looks like NK has lost their pokerface, hopefully they do sit and talk about these issues.

reply to post by hounddoghowlie

Nice signature bud.. They will be here in Va Beach next month....

I don't mean to side step your subject matter.

It's simple. the US Government told Kim that they were going to be conducting several false flag operations in the Boston area this week so no one would be paying attention to N. Korea. The government asked Kim to wait until next week to to continue the nuke threats - at a time when the US people will be much more receptive to the idea of war with who ever the government says is the enemy.

Wasnt their supposed to be a missile staged coming from them and blowing up Waco?

West, TX

reply to post by syrinx2112


Not A problem.
2112 is my favorite album. the very first one i bought when i got my first stereo with a turn table.

reply to post by Invariance


well i was asking because, i hadn't heard any thing on the lsm, and ATS seemed to drop it loke a hot potato.
what you posted was pretty much what was said after kerry left wasn't it.

so i guess they decided not to test there missile.

reply to post by JohnPhoenix


that wouldn't surprise me at all.
i have always thought all wars in the last 150 years have been planed in advance.

www.myfoxny.com...

Pre-teen North Koreans trained as soldiers
QUOTE:
At the military school, where students work on desktop computers without Internet access and practice their English with chants such as "The respected Marshal Kim Jong Un is our father," classwork is infused with conflict.

"Because of the present situation, I am trying to study harder, because I really think that's how I can get my revenge on the American imperialists: by getting top marks in class," one student, Jo Chung Hyok, told The Associated Press.

"It's my revolutionary duty," Jo said. "I'm working extra hard to get top marks in military subjects like tactics and shooting."

The uptick in anti-American sentiment comes on the heels of international condemnation and U.N. sanctions for North Korea's long-range rocket launch in December and its underground nuclear test in February, which Pyongyang accuses Washington and Seoul of instigating. Joint U.S.-South Korean military drills south of the border also have incensed Pyongyang. END QUOTE:


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well glad you asked was going to put this in an other thread but here will do: China is coming to the rescue seems DPRK, that's North Korea, is willing to talk after all, Un does not want China coming in by the ways of tanks and such here is the link that says it all english.yonhapnews.co.kr...

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N. Korea accepts China's offer for dialogue: Japanese newspaper
TOKYO, April 20 (Yonhap) -- A senior Chinese official, such as top nuclear envoy Wu Dawei, could visit North Korea as Pyongyang indicated its willingness to talk with Beijing about ways to defuse tensions on the Korean Peninsula, a Japanese newspaper reported Saturday.

North Korea conveyed the intention to China in mid-April, the Asahi Shimbun newspaper reported citing an unidentified source. This has made South Korea, the United States and Japan believe that Pyongyang is less likely to press ahead with a medium-range missile launch, it said.

The Musudan missile, which is believed to be capable of reaching as far as the U.S. territory of Guam in the Pacific, still remains ready for a possible launch, but some missile units have begun withdrawing from the east coast, the report said.

North Korea had previously rejected China's offer to send an official to North Korea for talks, but Pyongyang appears to have changed its stance after the United States emphasized the importance of dialogue to defuse tensions, the report said. It also said that dialogue would gain traction after the U.S.-involved military exercises in the South end late this month.

China's chief nuclear negotiator Wu Dawei or a higher-ranked official could visit North Korea, the paper said. Wu, who is also scheduled to visit the United States next week, could act as a messenger between Washington and Pyongyang, the report said.

North Korea has sharply raised tensions on the Korean Peninsula, threatening attacks on South Korea and the United States, and warning of war in anger over a new U.N. Security Council resolution for its February nuclear test and the annual U.S.-South Korea exercises.

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Now that the bombers are no longer news i can go back to DPRK and the North Korea war act deux.

Originally posted by 727Sky
www.myfoxny.com...

Pre-teen North Koreans trained as soldiers
QUOTE:
At the military school, where students work on desktop computers without Internet access and practice their English with chants such as "The respected Marshal Kim Jong Un is our father," classwork is infused with conflict.

"Because of the present situation, I am trying to study harder, because I really think that's how I can get my revenge on the American imperialists: by getting top marks in class," one student, Jo Chung Hyok, told The Associated Press.

"It's my revolutionary duty," Jo said. "I'm working extra hard to get top marks in military subjects like tactics and shooting."

The uptick in anti-American sentiment comes on the heels of international condemnation and U.N. sanctions for North Korea's long-range rocket launch in December and its underground nuclear test in February, which Pyongyang accuses Washington and Seoul of instigating. Joint U.S.-South Korean military drills south of the border also have incensed Pyongyang. END QUOTE:

So this is our future population. Knew it was happening in terrorist cells with endoctrating children but it always gets me when I hear them speak like this. Less than 24 hours ago Kim said he was going to turn the south into a sea of fire again so his mouth is still running. It's just that no-one is wasting ink on it right now (finally ignoring him as the media should).

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It is probably a good thing for NK and the US to have a bit of time out from each other. There is some problem with each side trying to understand the others position. Ultimately, everyone wants the same thing which is security. As for what this means as an individuals, groups and the whole is having problems with its implementations and benefits.

Does America have any better plans than this 'Axis of Evil' for it's long term strategic direction in the region? What does America really want? Does it want to pull down this wall and extend trade through out the region or really harden things up as Korea becomes the testing grounds for the new range of military toys?

If NK and the US really want to get through this together then they both need to start focusing on what they can agree on rather than stop talking when they don't. There is an immense amount of work that needs to be done to reorder the social structures with NK taking a slow and steady approach to help integrate the changes. There are a heap of problem currently in the too hard basket, as the smaller problems are solved it does help in the solution of the tougher ones. These six party talks to need to help establish a common overall goal and help put an end to this ongoing tick for tack.

reply to post by kwakakev
in a way you have a point but it is NK er DPRK that says all the war words no matter what we the US might say or do they , the DPRK will turn ti to their favor and spin it to make them be seen to the rest of the world as the victims case in point from KCNA , the mouth piece of DPRK and word of Un

KCNA Commentary Decries U.S. Claim for Dialogue

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Pyongyang, April 19 (KCNA) -- The U.S. is trying to give impression that it restrains military action and hopes for dialogue.
The present U.S. chief executive has become vocal about the step he has taken to stop a series of military exercises, while claiming that "the U.S. has no intention to attack north Korea" and the "U.S. duty is to prevent a war".
This is a trick to evade the responsibility for the wartime situation prevailing on the Korean Peninsula and shift the blame on to the DPRK.
The U.S. is a chief culprit and a provoker which stoked tension and created the vicious cycle on the Korean Peninsula while tightening "sanctions" on the DPRK and moving to provoke a nuclear war.
It was the U.S. which hurt the dignity of the DPRK with brazen-faced political provocation while incriminating the legitimate and peaceful satellite launch of the DPRK. It was again the U.S. which is staging the nuclear war rehearsal to remove socialist Korea from the earth.
The U.S. has been waging military exercises in the sky and sea of the Korean Peninsula for nearly two months with the involvement of strategic nuclear submarines and bombers, apparently creating a nuclear war atmosphere.
However, it is now crying out for dialogue and restraint of military actions, a sophism that can be made only by gangsters.
Even at this moment the U.S. is waging nuclear war drills targeting the DPRK and is moving its nuclear strike means to operational waters off the peninsula.
It even mulls launching an intercontinental ballistic missile, one of three strategic nuclear strike means.
Under this situation, the U.S. has become vocal about a U-turn made by it toward dialogue and negotiation. This is aimed to convince the public that the U.S. does something to ease the tension on the Korean Peninsula, and round off nuclear war preparations behind the scene.
There can be neither DPRK-U.S. dialogue nor denuclearization as long as the U.S. wantonly violates the sovereignty of the DPRK and persists in the moves for a nuclear war against it.
As long as imperialists exist on earth and nuclear threats from the U.S. have not diminished, the DPRK's dismantlement of nuclear deterrence for self-defence will be unimaginable and there can never be such a thing no matter how much water may flow under the bridge.
The DPRK declared its new strategic line on simultaneously pushing forward economic construction and building of nuclear force and legalized it.
The DPRK's nuclear deterrence, symbol of its dignity and sovereignty, can never be a political bargaining chip.
The nuclear force of the DPRK will remain as the most powerful means for safeguarding the sovereignty and the supreme interests of the DPRK and dealing retaliatory blows at the strongholds of enemies who seek aggression on the DPRK till the world, especially the U.S., has become denuclearized. -0-

till the rest of the world has no nukes but Un so if one nation or leader steeps out of line he can then use the nuke on them, keep dreaming there Un you might get one down you shorts, if you mess with China. Us might want to but China will nix that idea

reply to post by bekod


The ongoing military tension has become part of the language with these discussions. Both sides are guilty of it and both sides are keeping up a stern approach waiting for the other to blink. This is what happens when you have the military undertaking negotiations, all they know how to do is fight and this is all that comes out of any discussions.

North Korea needs business men not rifle men, preferably some with experience about the current economic conditions so the same mistakes will not be made as the integration process unfolds. If America makes a good investment here it will help establish a strong and prosperous regional economy in which America will continue to have a share.

I do agree that the issue of nukes is a global problem, not a regional one. The only way out of this mess in a safe manner is to help establish better trust, security and relationships between the worlds nations to eliminate their demand. If you have any other solutions to the global nuclear problems I would like to hear it.

reply to post by kwakakev
yea i got one get rid of them , let us fight they way we use too, say back in the '41 '42 before the thought of nukes! Any country that has them is bared form would trade full embargo! no ships, or planes in or out no currency exchange, no internet, no fuel or no food, and see how fast they use them or get ride of them DPRK is the test bed, China is their only source of help and they are about to close that.

I feel sorry for the ordinary North Koreans and those imprisoned in the concentration camps. They need to be liberated. How many more years must they endure hell on earth. If there was ever a case for the UN to go in with troops this is it. NK' s camps are on a par with Hitler's concentration camps and Stalin's gulags. I am disgusted that the world is turning a blind eye to the suffering that goes on there.

The eyes of the world were on Boston for the week, that's what's up with North Korea. As any parent knows, there are few more effective ways of stopping a child from having a tantrum than to starve it of attention. Pretty much exposes the whole thing as nothing more than NK posturing with very little in the way of a real threat behind it. You didn't seriously think...

reply to post by bekod


Trade sanctions are very much one method to express political will and lay siege to a nation. As trade sanctions increase, so does the risk of conflict as resources become strained. So lets say you get your aim, DPRK is no longer a functional organization. There is now 10-15 million people without any sort of political structure and all kinds of more localized regional conflicts between cultures. Does it all just turn into a survival of the fittest free for all as over time a new order will need to establish and grow, become a lot more lawless and threatening as a nation in the mean time?

Or do we allow the DPRK party to gradually evolve to a more democratic authority in a reunified Korea? In this way the parties deficiencies can be addressed while keeping some unified sense of authority through the reunification process. In time this party will stand or fall on its own feet through the election cycles.

Are you able to clarify what part of them you would like to get rid off? What part of the DPRK bothers you the most?

reply to post by Wirral Bagpuss


I quite agree.

But how do you liberate a country that has a nuclear régime?