Dominos are starting to fall... First Cyprus, now New Zealand

reply to post by Happy1

B.T.W ...who controls the IMF?

This is planned. They're not stupid, they realize that this will destroy citizen's confidence in the entire banking system, creating runs on banks.

What does this mean? Bank runs are age-old tricks by the elite to cause economic destruction. The IMF is the ultimate loan sharking scheme, and when they sense countries are in trouble, they put the squeeze on, demanding their pound of flesh.

By causing bank runs and destroying them, the entire economy of a country goes bankrupt. Then the bottom-feeders come in and buy everything up at firesale prices, up to and including the nation's own resources and treasures. Especially water.

Think you can go without water? Think that the IMF won't press for it to be privatized? The IMF was handed the Great Lakes in the US in 2011, so I have read.

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The noose is tightening. They know that hitting people in their mostly puny bank accounts will be the last straw. The IMF is the instrument of destruction on this planet. What was once a savior for post-war Europe has now become a monster.

The DHS is prepared for our cries of injustice and the blowback that will come from these evil machinations.

I have been begging my husband to remove most of our money out of our regional bank, but he refuses to believe that the US could go down this path to hell. Meanwhile, I've been taking out extra cash each time I go shopping, and I hide it.

Perhaps they will induce a world war, to get our minds off these criminal exploits from banksters who believe themselves exempt from following the laws of man and God.

I have some advice that differs from the advice I have seen on this thread.

By all means, keep your money out of the bank, but, I wouldn't run out and spend it all on silver/gold.

You can't eat silver.

It won't be a bad idea to have some on hand, but, other things will be just as useful when it comes to trading for things you will need.

Instead, try to make yourself as self sufficient as possible. Plant a garden, raise some livestock, learn to can/preserve food, learn some actual skills, find alternative sources for heat/energy, etc. Do everything you can to lessen your dependence on the system.

If you get into those habits and start living the lifestyle now, the blow will not be as bad if/when the financial poo hits the fan.

reply to post by ressiv


The illuminati with the jesuit black pope at the head - second in command the pope francis, the rothschilds, ect.

Originally posted by jimmiec
This will happen in America. It is just a matter of time. Socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money.

Except all this is the result of full on capitalism. Banks taking risks with your money to make more money has nothing to do with Socialism. I swear nobody even seems to know what the words means anymore.

Could someone help bailout my business, with free money? Why not? Isn't that what they do to us??? Hey, don't blame me because i don't know how to manage my business properly.

reply to post by MrSpad


In this case it is a case of making promises that can not be kept. They promise great retirement checks, great unemployment checks, great benefits for unwed mothers, the list goes on and on. When the government controls everything, it always fails, always. Socialism is government control in a nutshell. Capitalism has it's faults. It however does not have as many faults as Socialism. Capitalism can be tweaked in order to make it fair to all who are willing to work/take risks. Socialism can not.

Consider carefully of what a society is, before one runs off with one's money out of the banks.

1. Bankers, no doubt, are and had been the greatest fraudsters of all time. They gave the illusion that they are rock solid, and will always be able to return despositors their funds anytime.

But the truth as proven by the financial crisis, they could not, and the taxpayers had to bear the brunt. Bankers privatised profits but socialised debts.

This was due to failure in regulatory measures by the govt to check and ensure that bank do what they are supposed to do - accept deposits and give out interests, and capital when asked for it. Govts did not have the guts to confront banksters when they shout out that govts should stay the hell out of biz and leave them alone in the name of capitalism.

The banks grew greedy and indulge all wild manner of trades and derivatives, and suffered. In order not to hurt the innocent depositors, govts ( People) around the world undertook the pain to give guarantees, by using its tax revenues to ensure all will get their funds back, WHILE at the same time, push for much needed reforms and sustainability for banks, an essential trade commodity for civilisation to progress, to continue to operate.

Unfortunately, some banks refused and thus today's bank failures yet again, and had hurt the many other banks whom had been responsible and yet will be drawn to the ire, and worse, consumers taking out their monies and getting robbed or stolen when they placed it home.


2. In times of national emergency, the individual will have to sacrifice that individuality for the sake of the whole, or none will survive. It is only in unity whereby strength can derive from.

Alone, our funds are small, but when combine, it will be substantial, to help out others whom need the funds more desperately than others.

But when we think solely for ourselves, such monies will only sit at home gathering dust, while many others whom needs it starves or dies.

Cyprus, New Zealand and others had failed to reform their banks with better practices, and had caused national economic emergencies. If nothing is done and let the banks fail, many will suffer, needlessly.

Instead of putting up guarantees by govt in the past, the govts now uses tax as a method to stablized economy, for far too many of humankind had only proven selfish, by cheating the system of depositing smaller deposits spread out in many banks to get the guarantees, and outright withdrawals and keeping it at home to gather dusk, ensuring no money circulates and thus the collapse of the economy.


Think carefully - did govts ( The People) robbed the nation through such one time tax, or had only govts ( The People) tried to stabalized the circulation of money during an emergency so that society may pull through this difficult period and survive together as one?

IT is still one's choice to choose - to live in jungles free as a bird along with its survival rate, or live in a civilised shared community with its responsibilities to survive far more longer.

reply to post by Happy1

for europe.... an good neighbour is mostly better than an far friend.....

ever notice how new zealand changes position on the globe?

it holds a peculiar status in the schemes of the old world order,
the boundries are drawn up in such a way so that it is considered a place which is not a place.

currently, new laws of succession are being drawn up there.
these pertain to the installation of the next monarch of england, once the queen retires.
i believe that she was to be the last of the line in her house, with the previous bloodline re-establishing itself as the legitimate heirs.

it is possible that this event, and the one in cyprus are related to a coming change in power played out mostly behind the scenes.

it would be my guess that 100% of the money held in the savings and reserves of these countries are actually being taken, as they would be the property of the ruling house that governed that area.

that would, of course, greatly upset the public, so to appease them, and to hold true to the laws that the ruling families abide by, it is announced to the public in a less dramatic fashion. it needs to be announced to the public so that it can be recorded in history in such a way that royals in the future can prove a record of their deeds.

don't worry, the money will be replaced electronicly for now, and in the near future with a replacement currency, look for it.

and look for many more signs to come, as it is the time for a major change in power, behind the scenes.

reply to post by ressiv


I'm not blaming this on Europe. The criminal banksters and the US Gov't created the first financial mess in the US, which the europeans had fallen victim to.

The top sees the whole world as their chess board - we are all victims of their diabolical schemes.

I will be pulling 9k a day out of my JP Morgan accounts all week. I will be damned if they will get my money. they may make it worthless but at least I will be holding it and not them.

I think they should go for here in the USA though. We need an excuse to go ahead and drag bankers into the street and do to them what they truly deserve.

Originally posted by MrSpad

Originally posted by jimmiec
This will happen in America. It is just a matter of time. Socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money.

Except all this is the result of full on capitalism. Banks taking risks with your money to make more money has nothing to do with Socialism. I swear nobody even seems to know what the words means anymore.

who is confiscating this money?
the GOVERNMENT.

well at least one person doesn't know what that word means.

do the people own the means of production?
well the banks were nationalized, and considering the people elected the representatives in government, to represent them, and their banks.
then yes it is socialism.

in capitalism, if it existed, banks would not take such risks. because they would go down in a fiery blaze, with nothing to prop them up.
ever heard of this word?
"bankrupt"

Capitalism is King

Originally posted by Mamatus
I will be pulling 9k a day out of my JP Morgan accounts all week. I will be damned if they will get my money. they may make it worthless but at least I will be holding it and not them.

Just 1 problem with your theory: what happens if they decide, money, as we know it, is no longer usable; obsolete; then what? People need to look at money from a different perspective. Money is meant to be spent/invested, not saved! I wouldn't want to have thousands of dollars in paper. Toilet paper is much more profitable.

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
Consider carefully of what a society is, before one runs off with one's money out of the banks.

1. Bankers, no doubt, are and had been the greatest fraudsters of all time. They gave the illusion that they are rock solid, and will always be able to return despositors their funds anytime.

But the truth as proven by the financial crisis, they could not, and the taxpayers had to bear the brunt. Bankers privatised profits but socialised debts.

This was due to failure in regulatory measures by the govt to check and ensure that bank do what they are supposed to do - accept deposits and give out interests, and capital when asked for it. Govts did not have the guts to confront banksters when they shout out that govts should stay the hell out of biz and leave them alone in the name of capitalism.



The banks grew greedy and indulge all wild manner of trades and derivatives, and suffered. In order not to hurt the innocent depositors, govts ( People) around the world undertook the pain to give guarantees, by using its tax revenues to ensure all will get their funds back, WHILE at the same time, push for much needed reforms and sustainability for banks, an essential trade commodity for civilisation to progress, to continue to operate.

Unfortunately, some banks refused and thus today's bank failures yet again, and had hurt the many other banks whom had been responsible and yet will be drawn to the ire, and worse, consumers taking out their monies and getting robbed or stolen when they placed it home.


2. In times of national emergency, the individual will have to sacrifice that individuality for the sake of the whole, or none will survive. It is only in unity whereby strength can derive from.

Alone, our funds are small, but when combine, it will be substantial, to help out others whom need the funds more desperately than others.

But when we think solely for ourselves, such monies will only sit at home gathering dust, while many others whom needs it starves or dies.

Cyprus, New Zealand and others had failed to reform their banks with better practices, and had caused national economic emergencies. If nothing is done and let the banks fail, many will suffer, needlessly.

Instead of putting up guarantees by govt in the past, the govts now uses tax as a method to stablized economy, for far too many of humankind had only proven selfish, by cheating the system of depositing smaller deposits spread out in many banks to get the guarantees, and outright withdrawals and keeping it at home to gather dusk, ensuring no money circulates and thus the collapse of the economy.


Think carefully - did govts ( The People) robbed the nation through such one time tax, or had only govts ( The People) tried to stabalized the circulation of money during an emergency so that society may pull through this difficult period and survive together as one?

IT is still one's choice to choose - to live in jungles free as a bird along with its survival rate, or live in a civilised shared community with its responsibilities to survive far more longer.

edit on 19-3-2013 by SeekerofTruth101 because: (no reason given)

Bull!!!! I am not to blame nor am I responsible for the waste and rampant spending of my government. Add to that I have enough cash in the bank to not work for a few years and I will be damned if I will let it go without a fight to the death. IMHO that post of your is pure communism in thought and in practice.

Make no mistake my funds get frozen and I will respond in a most definitive manner.

Originally posted by SamaraTen
Could someone help bailout my business, with free money?

Why not? Isn't that what they do to us???

Hey, don't blame me because i don't know how to manage my business properly.

NO!, unless your last name is, Morgan, Chase, Rockafeller, and anyother major banking name.

reply to post by MrSpad


your precious socialism, is the biggest failure man has ever witnessed...

Instead of putting up guarantees by govt in the past, the govts now uses tax as a method to stablized economy, for far too many of humankind had only proven selfish, by cheating the system of depositing smaller deposits spread out in many banks to get the guarantees, and outright withdrawals and keeping it at home to gather dusk, ensuring no money circulates and thus the collapse of the econony.

Think carefully - did govts ( The People) robbed the nation through such one time tax, or had only govts ( The People) tried to stabalized the circulation of money during an emergency so that society may pull through this difficult period and survive together as one?

reply to post by SeekerofTruth101


First of all, I have to say that I completely disagree with your premise. You are assuming that the government equals the people. It does not. The government equals the ruling elite.

Secondly, the banks played fast and loose with our money. THEY took the gambling risks. Now WE are supposed to bail them out.

The banks are not our society, they are not our government, they are a separate entity in which they use our money to make lots of money for themselves. Why should we have to support a failed business?

I see your view point thusly: My family all work hard. We do the right thing. We pay our fair share. There's a guy who hangs around on the street corner, and he is a serious addict. He stands there all day long and demands that we feed his habit, along with giving him food, clothes, a mansion, a summer home, a rolls royce, and a lear jet. He claims that he's watching out for our houses, so we owe him.

Honestly, if he were gone, the neighborhood would look and smell nicer, and we wouldn't have a drug-addled leech begging from us and trying to make us feel guilty all day long. We would also have more money.

I am not my brother's keeper in this case. The kindest thing to do is to let him dry out. No more handouts, no more enabling.

We didn't create the addict, we didn't invite him here, our only mistake was assuming that we need to be nice to him, and that he has us convinced that somehow he is too important to suffer the consequences of his actions.

It is not selfish to want to keep what little one earns. It is not selfish to demand that, in a capitalistic system, each business must either stand or fall based on its business practices. And we certainly DO NOT NEED a central bank, despite people such as yourself who try to convince people that we do.

I don't give a rat's ass if the entire banking system fails. Perhaps it needs to, so we can sweep the street clean and start afresh. They are not us. Society will be better off without them.

Originally posted by zatara
reply to post by Starwise

 

Doesn't matter if there will be a bank run or not...Having your money at home or in the bank, it will be worth close to zero. Thinking about being smart to change your money into an other currency......will not help, that other currency will also collaps. It is all tied together...I mean,..."they" tied it all up together...over educated greedy idiots.

"And all the green grass (greenbacks) were burned up" - 1st trumpet

God Bless,

Originally posted by Mamatus
I will be pulling 9k a day out of my JP Morgan accounts all week. I will be damned if they will get my money. they may make it worthless but at least I will be holding it and not them.

I think they should go for here in the USA though. We need an excuse to go ahead and drag bankers into the street and do to them what they truly deserve.

edit on 19-3-2013 by Mamatus because: (no reason given)

I have not read the whole thread yet but your post hit home more than you could imagine.
Not even 30 minutes ago the wife got on the phone and removed 10 k from a work related savings account to our bank with plans to get that money in the next two days.

You are not alone in you thinking.
Regards, Iwinder