has everyone here read the declaration of independence ?

you know this document preceeds the civil war and the north won the civil war and texas was a confederate state. I'm not sure if that changed the states legal rights ... but fundamentally this document lives as core American Values. thus its timeless meaning to all real Americans.

The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription


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IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

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has everyone here read the declaration of independence ?

No.
Why would you assume we are all Americans on this site??
I am Canadian and don't care about it as it does not pertain to my country.

Of course I have read it. All American citizens should have read it at least once in school. I doubt that most Americans actually comprehend it though.

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well maybe Canadians should read it ... you never know - one day you might wise up some... british colony

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don`t be hatin`!!! i`m canadian too,and i have read it! (i just like to know!)
it is a fine document.
have you read our charter of rights signed in the 1980`s signed by the Queen!

i'm still waiting for people to be declared truly Free,

we have a false sense of 'Freedom' ,but not truly free

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your history is incorrect sir! (american i assume!) the dominion of canada was given to the canadian people in the 1980`s by the Queen of England.
i guess your envious of a country where the people run the gov`t. and we can legally walk down the street bare chested,smoking weed!

a fine document sir. all i can hope is that the people in your country live by it!

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I still remember Toronto, and wasn't that your police trying to cause an incident to bash your freedom.... ???
and what is given by a Queen ... ah~~! we dont got one of those... so I am envious, cough cough

The declaration was a fine document, that showed our intent to become a free nation. It in no way defines any legality in the United States. It is not a legal document.

Now the constitution and the first 10 amendments specifically, let's all make sure everyone reads it. Let's especially make sure all politicians read it, and hold them to an oath they swear or affirm upon it.

OK, yes we have all read it now. What's your point?

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I just wanted to say it's stars and flag time. Thanks . It's nice to see someone ask this question. I myself have and continue to shake my head at the number of Americans who have no clue about what it says and what it means.
I will thank you again and add another believers thoughts.
www.heavencanbefound.com...

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good thing i`m not from toronto!|
your country has 250 years of backstabbing bloodshed!
you pick out 1 incident where things went really wrong.(by both sides) and thank `god`that the american cops were there to `help`!
and ya,us and our queen won the war of 1812!

when did we win our independence ?reply to post by CherubBabyYou know back in 1980 - I was on a small Island that was British Indian Ocean Territory and one of friends was a British Marine who was stationed there... we drank many beers and one night we were drinking at the old fort gun and he asked me how come America Celebrates Declaring something and not Winning something ... ???
we declared out independence July 2, 1776 and we won our independence >>>> ???? good question - depends on which date you say it happend on .... oct 17th or sept 3 1783.... but then you look at New York and the British were still there in 1792... and then we have British burn Washington DC in 1812... quite frankly I firmly believe we did not win our independence from england ... and I get this opinion from what has happend to get us into british wars... and how congress has supported the corporate legal system upon the American People...
So this could very well be the first Revolutionary War folks and the government is not going to back down - it never has.... this is just my minor probes into our history... and its very hard to tell the difference between the real history and his story,....

Originally posted by DrumsRfun
reply to post by 1BornPatriot

 

has everyone here read the declaration of independence ?

No.
Why would you assume we are all Americans on this site??
I am Canadian and don't care about it as it does not pertain to my country.

I'm certain that the Meaning of "everyone" was directed at US citizens, and was not intended as every other person or country.

But on this subject, I'm wondering how many of the citizens of your country have read your country's declaration or whatever your name you have for it.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--

If only most had read this and never forgotten , like they wanted us to I'm sure ( when I think back to decleration of independence , in school I was taught about it as what kept the colonies together or something) not that it held the key to our rights from the government and that this may be one of the only hopes to fix at least a bit of our corrupted government.


Also found this interesting.

Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.

Seems like Britain has been out to get us from the start. Guess maybe the infiltration came from there ???

I know for us to lose our government would render us to anarchy(especially being mindset to depend on it), but the madness and these bumbaclot politicians really need to stop and/or get a taste of their own medicine (ha if its killing us ,then literally their own medicine)

---Stand Up For Your Rights---