ke$ha's australian x-factor performance and the illuminati

ok I don't look into illuminati stuff much, (more of an E.T kinda guy) but I was in the hospital tonight when this came on the tube...
(sorry in advance if someone has already posted, used search but couldn't find anything)


now as I said I'm no illuminati expert, but the symbolism in this one is HUGE! even enough for one with even the most basic illuminati knowledge.

Enjoy

Love, Light, and all that crap....

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reply to post by blazingdefiance


What does this prove? That the artist and production team used popular culture symbolism in their video?

Is the singer the head of the Illuminati? Are you in the Illuminati?

How does seeing this symbolism affect you personally?

How does it make you feel?

Are you scared?

Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by blazingdefiance

 

What does this prove? That the artist and production team used popular culture symbolism in their video?

Is the singer the head of the Illuminati? Are you in the Illuminati?

How does seeing this symbolism affect you personally?

How does it make you feel?

Are you scared?

I'm not actually saying it proves anything, I just thought that with what little i know about the topic, if i found it interesting then others certainly would, this is the point of the web site no?

I strongly doubt Ke$ha is head of anything, and to sugest as much seems silly to me... as for me being in the illuminati? well... I wasn't last time I checked, but things may have changed, mabey they finally accepted my application lol

It doesn't affect me at all, although I do find the whole all seeing eye thing to be cool, once again i found it strikingly obvious, did you watch the video?

how does it make me feel? honestly I couldn't care less (sorry you couldn't get a better reaction out of me )

am I scarred? well that depends on what your asking, I assume your asking am I scared of the illuminati, and the answer is no, I don't care, In general though, yes I am scarred for many reasons which i'm not about to go into with you right now...

I hope that answered your questions

love, light, and all that crap....

p.s, roger waters rules

reply to post by blazingdefiance

I wasn't trying to be a jerk, I just wonder what provokes the fear of a group that has been disbanded for over 200 years.

When people see this symbolism they seem to freak out, yet nobody actually has a valid response as to why.
If you are interested, I suggest a look into who the original Illuminati were and what they stood for. It's vastly different than what the conspiracy people seem to think.

edit to add;
She seems quite hot, so if she comes up for candidate as head of the Illuminati, I'll throw in my vote.

reply to post by blazingdefiance


Having read just a little bit about this girl, she's pretty obsessed with shamanism, 'vision quests', etc, and this silly costume reflects her new found spiritual interests.

To just give a quick summary of some of the iconography that you see in the video: the headgear she wears at the beginning is solar symbolism, reflecting her 'illuminated' consciousness. After the initial illumination of the beginning chorus, she drops the headgear and eye within a triangle appears in the background graphics, reflecting her 'vision' experience. The inner eye is only one eye, and the triangle is the boundaries of psychic experience. Thus, this song can be seen as an expression of her spiritual philosophy, purely pagan, of course.

reply to post by network dude


Explanation: Uhmmm?

a group that has been disbanded for over 200 years.

Yes ... OL is 100% sure that is what they would want us to perceive as a fact ... as it was a very secretive organization and I am very sure that they and their agenda's still exist ... even if they themselves have been rebranded.

Personal Disclosure: Do you deny that there are groups of people in power with secret agenda's that are NOT for the benefit of all mankind and are in fact set against all and or most of mankind?

Originally posted by OmegaLogos
`Personal Disclosure: Do you deny that there are groups of people in power with secret agenda's that are NOT for the benefit of all mankind and are in fact set against all and or most of mankind?

I believe they exist and they are primarily big oil.

Personal question:
How could a group that formed to fight against tyranny and oppression have lasted over 200 years only to completely change it's goal to enslavement and oppression?

Inquiring minds want to know.

reply to post by network dude


Explanation: St*rred!

Moles can infiltrate and hijack an organization ... and an organization that is secretive in nature has its own inherent problems on who is doing what and why!

And being a secretive organization it attracts all kinds of 'weirdos' .

Personal Disclosure: I directly point to the GOP which USED to be SOCIALIST in nature, as an example, of an organization whose main ideals have been hijacked, distorted and twisted till they are unrecognizable from the original policies.

reply to post by OmegaLogos


Point taken.

As for this song...

Even though Kesha isn't particularly good looking, there's something very attractive about her; a youthful zest for life.

I was sitting in the car a few days ago when my brother turned up the radio when this song came on. It's a very intense beat. Excites the emotions, titillates that energetic part of ourselves.

However, as 'fun' as this music can be, to adopt such an attitude as a philosophy for living necessarily leads to frequent moral mishaps, careless disregard of other peoples needs, and contributes to a lackadaisical attitude towards a balanced and relaxed estimation of the world around you. In short, this music arrests you in self, disassociating you from the other. Thus, responsibility is squelched from view. And only the despotism of the emotions reigns.

For partying, and having fun, this music is thrilling.. For living, it is purely evil.

But, this is what society is increasingly becoming. Monomaniacally obsessed with self.

When I saw the official video for "Die Young" I couldn't believe all the symbols and subliminals there were. I would have loved to be able to download it and watch it frame by frame, but I don't have what I need to be able to do that.

There's something about the lyrics, too. Hidden meanings... 'Don't care who's watching when we tearing it up, that magic that we got nobody can touch' is one example. And well, the name of the song, too, might be a clue.

Seems a bit ominous.

reply to post by Tha Girl They Call Roc


You guys are projecting a meaning onto the song that isn't there.

You're implying that Kesha is referring to some secret illuminati program, correct?? But everything you mentioned could be referred back to an esoteric, i.e. personal spiritual experience she's had. That's what I get from the song.

For example, the lyrics you cite as 'ominous', are in fact quite harmless.

'Don't care who's watching when we tearing it up," = She doesn't care what other people think about her. Tearing it up is whatever they do when they're having fun. She wont be 'limited' by other peoples opinions. If you can't tell, Kesha is rather unself conscious. She just acts without allowing others to 'interfere'.

"that magic that we got nobody can touch" = obviously refers back to her idea that there is something 'magical' about her ability to not be affected by other peoples 'watching'. It's a 'magic' that nobody can interfere with, i.e. touch.

There's nothing explicitly ominous in that..lol..

It's so funny how people can find evil when there is none.

Now, Jay Z, Kanye West, these guys are pretty explicit in their flaunting illuminati insignia. Even if it's for just their own #z and gigglez, I find it to be arrogant and obscene.

reply to post by dontreally


I'm just sayin'...she came out of nowhere and went straight to the top; and why did she put so many subliminal messages in the video?

once again i'm not really into illuminati stuff but from what i HAVE read the symbolism seemed rather intense. I find it funny that people with absolutly no talent at all can rise to the top just by signing their life away, what do they get in exchange? i've been making music since I was 13 and am now 26 and still chasing the dream, gotta say if someone put an offer like that under my nose.. i'd probably take it too..

Originally posted by blazingdefiance
now as I said I'm no illuminati expert, but the symbolism in this one is HUGE! even enough for one with even the most basic illuminati knowledge.

Masonic symbolism.

The masons seem to be putting their symbols 'out there' more regular these days. I wonder if they are finally making their move, seeing as the planet have becom ever more materialistic. We need to get back to our spiritual ways.

Originally posted by network dude

Originally posted by OmegaLogos
`Personal Disclosure: Do you deny that there are groups of people in power with secret agenda's that are NOT for the benefit of all mankind and are in fact set against all and or most of mankind?

I believe they exist and they are primarily big oil.

Personal question:
How could a group that formed to fight against tyranny and oppression have lasted over 200 years only to completely change it's goal to enslavement and oppression?

Inquiring minds want to know.

To help answer your question: I think Friedrich Nietzsche's old saying, "He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster", pretty much sums it up.

This concept is repeated throughout history. One faction looks to overthrow an oppressive government / organization. Then once it's replaced, the new faction becomes more oppressive than the first to maintain it's power. Then the cycle repeats.

reply to post by iwan2ski


Unless you can name some current members, or tell everyone the location of the meetings, I think we can either say the Illuminati no longer exists, or they are truly the most secret, secret society that has ever existed.

Both options have the same impact. IMHO

Dont watch the crap and the symbols go away.

Its a dumb song with a dumb pop star getting dumb people to buy
her rather crappy "rap" pop songs.

reply to post by blazingdefiance


Hi, my mate and i saw this the other night and we both agreed it was full of satanic or whatever stuff ,and i was gonna make a thread about it myself, as it was so blatant with symbols . My hubby said the words where designed to get the young ones going and to party hard die young .....,well the old saying, you are what you think ,is this a good way to make young people think. cheers.