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"The United States has been given the opportunity to be the teacher for the world, but much is expected of those to whom much has been given. The United States has been given more of everything than any country in the history of the world and it has failed to be generous with the gifts. If the United States continues to exploit the rest of the world by greedily consuming the world's resources, the United States will have God's blessing withdrawn. Your country will collapse economically which will result in civil chaos. Because of the greedy nature of the people, you will have people killing people for a cup of gasoline. The world will watch in horror as your country is obliterated by strife. The rest of the world will not intervene because they have been victims of your exploitation. They will welcome the annihilation of such selfish people. The United States must change immediately and become the teachers of goodness and generosity to the rest of the world. Today the United States is the primary merchant of war and the culture of violence that you export to the world. This will come to an end because you have the seeds of your own destruction within you. Either you will destroy yourselves or God will bring it to an end if there isn't a change."
"What would happen is these very complex and delicate grids of our economic system would begin to break down. We've created a society of such cruel and self-centered people that the very nature of civilization would begin to break down. The angels showed me that what would happen is that people would begin robbing the grocery stores, hording goods, and killing one another for gasoline and tires, and as a consequence everything would break down and would end up in chaos."
(a) Oil used as a weapon to control the world economy
(b) The economic collapse of the world economy
(c) A war between China and Russia
(d) Democracy in Egypt overthrown and fanatics rule
(e) An alliance between the Chinese and Syrians
(f ) Catastrophic natural disasters in America
(g) The fall of America as a world power
(h) The rise of an environmental religion beginning in Russia
(i ) A leader from Russia to become a U.N. leader
(j ) The possibility of a World War III
(k)
A scientific discovery to alter DNA and create a biological virus that will be used in the manufacture of computer chips (see this article)
Originally posted by jacobe001
I was reading some of the future visions NDER's have had at the Near Death Website and thought how close many of them are, and to get the word out, wanted to share them with everyone here:
near-death.com...
You can go to the above link for more of the visions and I will paste a few of them here that I thought were the most interesting.
This particular one is by Howard Storm from an NDE he had in 1985
"The United States has been given the opportunity to be the teacher for the world, but much is expected of those to whom much has been given. The United States has been given more of everything than any country in the history of the world and it has failed to be generous with the gifts. If the United States continues to exploit the rest of the world by greedily consuming the world's resources, the United States will have God's blessing withdrawn. Your country will collapse economically which will result in civil chaos. Because of the greedy nature of the people, you will have people killing people for a cup of gasoline. The world will watch in horror as your country is obliterated by strife. The rest of the world will not intervene because they have been victims of your exploitation. They will welcome the annihilation of such selfish people. The United States must change immediately and become the teachers of goodness and generosity to the rest of the world. Today the United States is the primary merchant of war and the culture of violence that you export to the world. This will come to an end because you have the seeds of your own destruction within you. Either you will destroy yourselves or God will bring it to an end if there isn't a change."
Here is another one from Michael Brown
"What would happen is these very complex and delicate grids of our economic system would begin to break down. We've created a society of such cruel and self-centered people that the very nature of civilization would begin to break down. The angels showed me that what would happen is that people would begin robbing the grocery stores, hording goods, and killing one another for gasoline and tires, and as a consequence everything would break down and would end up in chaos."
Here are some Predictions by Dannion Brinkley from the NDE he had in 1973
(a) Oil used as a weapon to control the world economy
(b) The economic collapse of the world economy
(c) A war between China and Russia
(d) Democracy in Egypt overthrown and fanatics rule
(e) An alliance between the Chinese and Syrians
(f ) Catastrophic natural disasters in America
(g) The fall of America as a world power
(h) The rise of an environmental religion beginning in Russia
(i ) A leader from Russia to become a U.N. leader
(j ) The possibility of a World War III
(k)
A scientific discovery to alter DNA and create a biological virus that will be used in the manufacture of computer chips (see this article)
There are many other summaries of other people's visions on the above page, that mirror the times we are going through.
I blame a lot of the self centered-ness on the philosophy of Ayn Rand, where it is you are your own god and everything is about the self only, and you have no need for no-one or nothing, not even God.
Originally posted by yourmaker
My dreams provide those visions of the future more then my NDE ever could have.
I've had a couple very visually and audibly haunting dreams of war, gun battles, nuclear devices here.
Facilities underground. Meteor storm hitting Earth.
But my NDE was very 1 dimensional. I just floated out of my body into a grey hazy freezing environment, into the ceiling and woke up the next day in a different hospital. Time was momentary, but a day had passed.
Essentially a ghost for a few moments while the the world around went by rapidly.
I wonder if THEIR NDE was perhaps a type of dream?
Or even my own i'm now forced to question whether I was dreaming, while dead?
Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by jacobe001
One problem.
You cannot record a movie without the movie recorder turned on. You cannot store memories on a computer if the computer is turned off. And, you cannot record memories of NDE's if the brain isn't functioning. It can't be done. It's impossible. So, either the people are lying when they claim to remember NDE's, or they weren't brain dead and were simply dreaming.
edit on 9/16/2012 by jiggerj because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jiggerj
You cannot record a movie without the movie recorder turned on. You cannot store memories on a computer if the computer is turned off. And, you cannot record memories of NDE's if the brain isn't functioning. It can't be done. It's impossible. So, either the people are lying when they claim to remember NDE's, or they weren't brain dead and were simply dreaming.
edit on 9/16/2012 by jiggerj because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jacobe001
I believe memories are stored in the spirit and in the brain.
Call the spirit whatever you want, but the difference is there.
I used to practice Lucid Dreaming and in order to remember what I dreamed, I had to write it down the moment I woke up while still in a "Meditative State", otherwise the memories would be lost. I had to commit them to the brain.
Originally posted by _Phoenix_
Originally posted by jiggerj
You cannot record a movie without the movie recorder turned on. You cannot store memories on a computer if the computer is turned off. And, you cannot record memories of NDE's if the brain isn't functioning. It can't be done. It's impossible. So, either the people are lying when they claim to remember NDE's, or they weren't brain dead and were simply dreaming.
edit on 9/16/2012 by jiggerj because: (no reason given)
Yeah but you can put a DVD or SD card into the computer after you put it back on with all the info the computer doesn't have.
If the souls exists then it also probably stores memories.
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by jacobe001
I believe memories are stored in the spirit and in the brain.
Call the spirit whatever you want, but the difference is there.
I used to practice Lucid Dreaming and in order to remember what I dreamed, I had to write it down the moment I woke up while still in a "Meditative State", otherwise the memories would be lost. I had to commit them to the brain.
Not arguing or anything. I'm just saying I don't buy it. When you say you had to commit them to the brain, you are implying that you are thinking with something other than the brain. If this is so, why isn't this spirit memory working all the time? Why the need for lucid dreaming or NDE's? I should be sitting here writing this while receiving information from outside of the mind.
One thing I'm curious about is, have there been accounts of people coming out of long-term comas that reported days and weeks of experiencing other thought processes while in the coma? I wouldn't even know where to begin to research this.
Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by jacobe001
I would've been happier if these NDE's were simply called predictions. This way we could look at some of them as insightful, or even reveal a hidden agenda of convincing people to believe in some false god. Adding the NDE angle only reduces the predictions down to tomfoolery - pure bunk.
And this is why:
If NDE means being declared brain dead and then returned to life, then there is a serious flaw in the idea of people remembering what they experienced. For the moment let's say that NDE's are 100% true. People go to heaven and feel intense love and are surrounded by family members that have passed before them. Some people roam the universe and visit life on other planets. Some people see into the future... This is all good.
One problem.
You cannot record a movie without the movie recorder turned on. You cannot store memories on a computer if the computer is turned off. And, you cannot record memories of NDE's if the brain isn't functioning. It can't be done. It's impossible. So, either the people are lying when they claim to remember NDE's, or they weren't brain dead and were simply dreaming.
edit on 9/16/2012 by jiggerj because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by jacobe001
I would've been happier if these NDE's were simply called predictions. This way we could look at some of them as insightful, or even reveal a hidden agenda of convincing people to believe in some false god. Adding the NDE angle only reduces the predictions down to tomfoolery - pure bunk.
And this is why:
If NDE means being declared brain dead and then returned to life, then there is a serious flaw in the idea of people remembering what they experienced. For the moment let's say that NDE's are 100% true. People go to heaven and feel intense love and are surrounded by family members that have passed before them. Some people roam the universe and visit life on other planets. Some people see into the future... This is all good.
One problem.
You cannot record a movie without the movie recorder turned on. You cannot store memories on a computer if the computer is turned off. And, you cannot record memories of NDE's if the brain isn't functioning. It can't be done. It's impossible. So, either the people are lying when they claim to remember NDE's, or they weren't brain dead and were simply dreaming.
edit on 9/16/2012 by jiggerj because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by jacobe001
I believe memories are stored in the spirit and in the brain.
Call the spirit whatever you want, but the difference is there.
I used to practice Lucid Dreaming and in order to remember what I dreamed, I had to write it down the moment I woke up while still in a "Meditative State", otherwise the memories would be lost. I had to commit them to the brain.
Not arguing or anything. I'm just saying I don't buy it. When you say you had to commit them to the brain, you are implying that you are thinking with something other than the brain. If this is so, why isn't this spirit memory working all the time? Why the need for lucid dreaming or NDE's? I should be sitting here writing this while receiving information from outside of the mind.
One thing I'm curious about is, have there been accounts of people coming out of long-term comas that reported days and weeks of experiencing other thought processes while in the coma? I wouldn't even know where to begin to research this.
Originally posted by Robbo2006
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by jacobe001
I believe memories are stored in the spirit and in the brain.
Call the spirit whatever you want, but the difference is there.
I used to practice Lucid Dreaming and in order to remember what I dreamed, I had to write it down the moment I woke up while still in a "Meditative State", otherwise the memories would be lost. I had to commit them to the brain.
Not arguing or anything. I'm just saying I don't buy it. When you say you had to commit them to the brain, you are implying that you are thinking with something other than the brain. If this is so, why isn't this spirit memory working all the time? Why the need for lucid dreaming or NDE's? I should be sitting here writing this while receiving information from outside of the mind.
One thing I'm curious about is, have there been accounts of people coming out of long-term comas that reported days and weeks of experiencing other thought processes while in the coma? I wouldn't even know where to begin to research this.
You could start your research with the term DNA,As most of us know that dna is information and can be accessed millions of years after death. Or am i wrong.
regards robbo.
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by _Phoenix_
Originally posted by jiggerj
You cannot record a movie without the movie recorder turned on. You cannot store memories on a computer if the computer is turned off. And, you cannot record memories of NDE's if the brain isn't functioning. It can't be done. It's impossible. So, either the people are lying when they claim to remember NDE's, or they weren't brain dead and were simply dreaming.
edit on 9/16/2012 by jiggerj because: (no reason given)
Yeah but you can put a DVD or SD card into the computer after you put it back on with all the info the computer doesn't have.
If the souls exists then it also probably stores memories.
LOL The information on the DVD came from another very physical computer. We can't get information to go on a blank DVD that is just sitting on the coffee table.