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As a man, are you ready to shed your yoke of slavery to women and reject God’s command to rule over them?
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by Greatest I am
As a man, are you ready to shed your yoke of slavery to women and reject God’s command to rule over them?
Fathers speech recorded in Genesis is not correctly accurate as you are given in the bible as of today. Also, some key details are missing. As it stands now, I see why you have drawn this conclusion, based strictly on what is written.
That's the problem though, isn't it? That's all we are supposedly left to go on.
Anything else would be just adding to or taking away from it, and that's not a correct way to do things, since we may as well rewrite the whole thing.
Originally posted by Greatest I am
I think it quite ironic that God, who tells us to reproduce as his first commandment to man in Genesis 1, does not give us something to reproduce with till Genesis 2; 18.
God never tells Adam why he is being chastised.
As a man, I am not pleased that God has cursed my fellow man to have to suffer ruling over women. To rule over women is to be responsible to them and their demands. I think we should stop being slaves to women and give them full equality.
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Women. God’s afterthought and man’s curse to rule.
A...I think it quite ironic that God, who tells us to reproduce as his first commandment to man in Genesis 1, does not give us something to reproduce with till Genesis 2; 18. Further, only after a severe chastisement without correction, even to death, an immoral concept, after we ate of the tree of knowledge, are men given what is required for reproduction; the desire and mental capacity to do so.
B...God never tells Adam why he is being chastised. This is an expression of hate on God’s part because there is no evil in wanting to become as God as scriptures urge us to do. Note here that I take the Jewish view of our elevation in Eden and not the fall interpretation that Christianity mistakenly puts on it.
C...Chastisement without correction is just cruelty and thus unjust on God’s part. That is the message of Eden. God is unjust. If so, the inequality built into the bible, where men are cursed to rule over women, ----- is unjust.
D...Genesis 3;16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
E...As a man, I am not pleased that God has cursed my fellow man to have to suffer ruling over women. To rule over women is to be responsible to them and their demands. I think we should stop being slaves to women and give them full equality. Men owe it especially to men and to a lesser degree to women and between you and I, justice demands it ------, and so would all just people.
f...As a man, are you ready to shed your yoke of slavery to women and reject God’s command to rule over them?
Regards
DL
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Women. God’s afterthought and man’s curse to rule.
I think it quite ironic that God, who tells us to reproduce as his first commandment to man in Genesis 1, does not give us something to reproduce with till Genesis 2; 18. Further, only after a severe chastisement without correction, even to death, an immoral concept, after we ate of the tree of knowledge, are men given what is required for reproduction; the desire and mental capacity to do so.
God never tells Adam why he is being chastised. This is an expression of hate on God’s part because there is no evil in wanting to become as God as scriptures urge us to do. Note here that I take the Jewish view of our elevation in Eden and not the fall interpretation that Christianity mistakenly puts on it.
Chastisement without correction is just cruelty and thus unjust on God’s part. That is the message of Eden. God is unjust. If so, the inequality built into the bible, where men are cursed to rule over women, ----- is unjust.
Genesis 3;16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
As a man, I am not pleased that God has cursed my fellow man to have to suffer ruling over women. To rule over women is to be responsible to them and their demands. I think we should stop being slaves to women and give them full equality. Men owe it especially to men and to a lesser degree to women and between you and I, justice demands it ------, and so would all just people.
As a man, are you ready to shed your yoke of slavery to women and reject God’s command to rule over them?
Regards
DL
Originally posted by borntowatch
Remember the NT is talking to Christians, I am guessing you aint a Christian so whats it to you.
You talk crap, ignorant crap, but still crap. Unless you are talking the law for the Jews and if thats the case you missed that bus as well.
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by Greatest I am
As a man, are you ready to shed your yoke of slavery to women and reject God’s command to rule over them?
Fathers speech recorded in Genesis is not correctly accurate as you are given in the bible as of today. Also, some key details are missing. As it stands now, I see why you have drawn this conclusion, based strictly on what is written.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by Greatest I am
I can't tell if this is a sexist thread, or anti-sexist. Since confrontation isn't my pursuit here, I'll go with anti-sexist.
How about we stop pretending we're supposed to rule one another and actually GET ALONG? IS THAT SO HARD?!?!?
Men have a penis. Women have vaginas. Neither can reproduce without the other. Neither is more important. Whatever one can do, the other can do as well. Except for birth, but let's forget about all that. Just because we feel crappy about what we can't do, doesn't mean we look down on others for what we CAN do. Let's help those who can't do what we can, and ask those who can do what we can't.
If we're always pitting ourselves against each other for self-gratification, how are we supposed to get anywhere? We may be different sexes, but we're all the same on the inside. And isn't the stuff on the inside what matters most? We can have sex changes, but we can't perform surgery on the soul. That's called murder.
Let's get along and love each other for how can we help one another, instead of hating for how we're different, eh? I'm beginning to think that when Adam and Eve were supposedly expelled from the garden, that was "God" giving them to foster care. Looking around, I can sorta see why.
Sex doesn't matter. Love does.
Originally posted by FissionSurplus
First, you use the book of Genesis to say that men are cursed to "rule" over women, and they are "God's afterthought".....Then you say that it sucks that men are stuck with such a burden, and so all men should take the yoke of ruling over women and forget all of it.
This thread makes zero sense....Not only because you fail to take other bibilical issues into account, which disprove your "curse" theory, but also because you use Genesis as the basis of your idea, and then say it's time to throw it out.
If you're a real Christian, you would not consider not obeying what you interpret as the word of God.
Therefore, the only thing I can think of is that you're a troll who's looking to piss women off. Since I am female, and see a million holes in your OP, I'm gonna let you slide. God didn't give me this brain to not use it, buddy, but in your case, I fail to see where it would do any good to correct you.
Originally posted by inverslyproportional
reply to post by Greatest I am
God gave adam a woman originally, her name was Jesabel, she would not bow to Adam, as she was his equal in God's creation. So God cast her out of the garden, hence the curse still used today of calling a woman a 2 bit jesabel.
Subsequently, God saw that Adam was sad, and put him into a great sleep, removed a rib, and cloned Eve. Who was now bound to Adam, because she was of his flesh, so like your arms and legs, must serve him.
If you believe that sort of nonsense any ways.