Thousands could be homeless by Christmas

Here's an early Christmas gift from the PTB and their lovely Banker elves....

Every two minutes between now and Christmas Day, someone in Britain will face the prospect of losing their home. That's the finding of new research from the housing charity Shelter, highlighting the struggles the property market still faces. According to the charity's research, around 35,000 people face a battle to keep a roof over their head in time for Santa's arrival.

When you throw austerity measures, rising food prices, unemployment (and ho possibility of ever providing jobs for all those), civil unrest and a world being taken over by a privately run banking cartel, it looks like we'll be starting 2012 on not such a happy note.
Wonder when they'll start the war? Perhaps we'll find our conscription notices in our Christmas stockings?

Thousands could be homeless by Christmas

So Britain is trying to catch up with the USA? We already have 1000s displaced by bogus and legit foreclosures, and we are at our all time high for the amount of us on food stamps.

This is a slow boil process, they aren't going after all our homes at the same time, just picking us off one at a time, and eventually it will be nearly impossible for the middle class to maintain their own homes financially. The costs of living are still climbing, and people will have to choose food over tax payments, giving the state a reason to foreclose. We are all frogs in a slow boil.

reply to post by JibbyJedi


There are a few factors which really concern me - these are all 'red flags' that this won't end well.
Our post-industrial society has a huge amount of unskilled labour and no amount of retraining will land them all jobs. We just don't have any need for them. But they keep on reproducing and each generation gets larger, producing more and more uneducated and unskilled citizens who require state aid just to survive.
Secondly, austerity measures (similar to those implanted in other european countries) will have to come in soon in the UK, which will mean job cuts, higher taxes, lower salaries, etc. Combine that with the insane increase in tulity and food prices and the UK will have a large prorportion of its populace unable, in any legal way, to feed or house itself.
I watched that EDL vs police video on this thread - www.abovetopsecret.com...
The EDL were acting like good old fashioned British thugs - they shouted at the police but didn't dare attack them (it just isn't cricket...). Our ethnic minority population don't have such restraint and it will be they who feels the pinch first - expect their reaction to be much more extreme.
I can see Britain splitting into regions based on priority. And, sadly, areas like Liverpool and Newcastle, despite having the highest poverty and crime rates, will not be at the top of the list for government aid - it'll be Huntingdonshire and Wessex, etc. The 'provinces' will be given over to private corporate rule, much as the hispitals are being done now, and each borough will decide its own fate. Basically, they'll get robbed blind but it won't be the responsibiltiy of teh Etonians in Westminster.
The British public sided with the government on the Dale Farm issue - but you can you imagine if normal people declared that they would fight eviction rather than being made homeless? That idea obviously hasn't occured yet....

Maybe it's time for another 1776, this time instead of Americans and British being used as pawns to fight each other, we join forces and drive out the top of the pyramid together.
This isn't going to get better any time soon, it will get worse as the same patterns repeat themselves exponentially. The people won't really take notice until their number comes up in the unlucky lottery.

reply to post by JibbyJedi


But while the people are being taken out individually, it isn't other people's problem.
Only if there were wholsecale effects would there be any form of uprising. And this is all carefully engineered to preclude such an event
My grandmother always used to say that old phrase "There but for the grace of God go I" and it's true. No one wants to risk their own pitiful existence defending someone who 'probably deserved it' (as they convince themsellves)

Originally posted by Aestheteka

Our ethnic minority population don't have such restraint and it will be they who feels the pinch first

Ya think? Don't count the Asians in this. Their culture is much more one of families sticking together, of pooling resources - bulk buying of food, 'communal' businesses, cars even... Plus they are more likely to know 'a man who can'.
No the ones who feel the pinch first will be the greedy morons who are still racking up loans to buy luxury white goods, the ones who think the world owes them a pair of designer trainers, the ones whose diet consists of ready meals and take-aways and who haven't a clue how to prepare a basic but nutritious meal.
Yes others will feel the pinch. But the former will be the first to riot and take from anyone regardless.

reply to post by starchild10


No, I wouldn't include anyone who has a family-centric existence, whether they be gypsies or Berber. A strong family which looks after its own can survive.
Much like Scousers....

Only thousands? I want millions!!!

reply to post by JibbyJedi


You do realize that England only pretended to lose that war, yes?

reply to post by Aestheteka


Brits deserve it.They were supporting the genocide in Libya and have a great nation and a great leader.

Karma man Karma

Well hope it`s all and I truly mean all the people posting on the homeless are homeless because they want to be.
The stupidest thing I think I`ve ever read.

It`s a sad time in human existence and if we all pulled together and helped the needy it doesn`t have to be so brutal. You know simple things like eating a hot meal and having a place to sleep.

And if you don`t have young kids for Gods sake don`t buy this crap from the stores.
Everything's cheaper after the holidays anyhow but then if you are one of the fortunate to have a job (Fare paying job) you really don`t think of those people while you are sleeping in a warm bed and probably run your mouths on how cold it is the 10 minutes it takes you to get from your cars to the house..

We need to pressure the governments into start fixing this trouble or step out and let someone else try before they find people get desperate when they have no-where to go for help and will start targeting the ones that don`t help.

I`m all for people staying in the empty houses and going the distance of if it leads to jail fill those up as well. Figure there will be 3 hot meals and a place to sleep.
And that is thanks to the same people that wouldn`t help when the homeless were on the street so be sure to pay your taxes.

Originally posted by eldard
reply to post by JibbyJedi

 

You do realize that England only pretended to lose that war, yes?

Yes quite aware, I live in "New England". We were both used as pawns against each other though.

Squatting seems a good alternative, There seems to be plenty of spare housing on the market, you can set up an agreement with the lawful owner called "guardian tenancy" paying minimal rent, This should give people some space to sort themselves out financially, do not worry about your credit ratting there are damned anyways, Concentrate on bringing in money for food and the like,Use propane gas system for cooking and heating that is a big priority and cheap.

Some "civil" law reguarding squatting. (UK)..

What you can and can't do:
Squatting is a civil offense against the landlord/owner of the property, which to all intents and purposes means that it is an unlawful practice, but not illegal.
You can be convicted of a criminal offense if you have caused damage to the property by gaining entry, covered under the Criminal Justice Act 1994.
The landlord/owners are well within their rights to evict squatters, but they must go to a civil court in order to gain a possession order.
Squatters do have limited rights. A landlord cannot remove you by violent or forced means, only through the legal process.
Under squatters' rights, if a property has been lived in for 12 years then it effectively becomes the property of the squatters..
Hope this helps..

Nearly half a million homes in the UK are empty.

The startling picture of neglect – we estimate that more than 450,000 properties have been empty for at least six months – at a time when there is an acute housing shortage was pieced together using information gathered from local councils under the Freedom of Information Act.

www.guardian.co.uk...

Originally posted by JibbyJedi
So Britain is trying to catch up with the USA? We already have 1000s displaced by bogus and legit foreclosures, and we are at our all time high for the amount of us on food stamps.

This is a slow boil process, they aren't going after all our homes at the same time, just picking us off one at a time, and eventually it will be nearly impossible for the middle class to maintain their own homes financially. The costs of living are still climbing, and people will have to choose food over tax payments, giving the state a reason to foreclose. We are all frogs in a slow boil.

This is what happens when you give up your guns while letting your government and local police keep theirs. You end in up in the grip of a totalitarian police state. The U.S. should be learning from England before this sh*t gets a firm foothold on our soil.

I think we've all seen by now that trouble starts in the east and spreads west with the earth's rotation so we need to nip this in the bud before it gets here and we end up with a house guest that refuses to go away.

Personally i don't think we have a chance, we saw this coming 100 years ago and we did nothing to curtail it. It starts with the corporate fatcats and aristocrats hiding in the shadows that ceaselessly lobby for big government and when they have big government, that iron fist closes and crushes everyone in its grip and thats what has happened to GB and the US is next on the list. Democracy is a disguise for Aristocracy which the next step is Monarchy and Dictatorship.

Think i am lying? Watch how the next 4 years plays out.

Originally posted by foxhoundone
Squatting seems a good alternative, There seems to be plenty of spare housing on the market, you can set up an agreement with the lawful owner called "guardian tenancy" paying minimal rent, This should give people some space to sort themselves out financially, do not worry about your credit ratting there are damned anyways, Concentrate on bringing in money for food and the like,Use propane gas system for cooking and heating that is a big priority and cheap.

Some "civil" law reguarding squatting. (UK)..

What you can and can't do:
Squatting is a civil offense against the landlord/owner of the property, which to all intents and purposes means that it is an unlawful practice, but not illegal.
You can be convicted of a criminal offense if you have caused damage to the property by gaining entry, covered under the Criminal Justice Act 1994.
The landlord/owners are well within their rights to evict squatters, but they must go to a civil court in order to gain a possession order.
Squatters do have limited rights. A landlord cannot remove you by violent or forced means, only through the legal process.
Under squatters' rights, if a property has been lived in for 12 years then it effectively becomes the property of the squatters..
Hope this helps..

Become a career criminal and you get free housing, free food, free cable tv a roof over your head with 3 square meals a day, an indoor gym with excersice machines and band instruments and a basketball court and you even get porno channels. Thats what alot of homeless do in the US to get a home, they throw themselves into the system and force the tax payers to eat the bill.