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Back on topic, This Ben Rich claim seems to be just heresay. Does anyone actually have any evidence that he actually said this?
Originally posted by Gazrok
Have these claims been debunked? Any truth to the claims that Ben Rich admitted that UFO/Aliens are real?
No, but hasn't been proven either. So far, it's nothing more than hearsay that he said these things. There are numerous people who claim to have been at the locations, and heard it, but no recordings of Ben to support it.
I've actually researched this man pretty well, read his memoirs, etc. It wouldn't surprise me that he'd make such a statement. However, I can also imagine him making such a statement just to put a spark of fear into our enemies.
He was a product of the cold war, and you don't just lose that mentality overnight. Here was a talented and ambitious man, the father of modern stealth, who constantly was looking for the next big advance, pushing the envelope for one of Lockheed's biggest customers, the CIA. Heck, Ben knows EXACTLY when and where we developed stealth, and that is was all based on a Russian scientist's papers, not our own. (The Russians simply never applied the principles to oddly shaped aircraft).
Simply put though, there's just no "time" to fit the idea of workable interstellar craft into his "timeline" of the development of other projects. It'd be hard to find a time he was there, that he wasn't fully dedicated to some other, now known project. Perhaps such ideas were on the drawing board, had theoretical concepts, etc., but I seriously doubt they were ever past that stage.
I find it highly unlikely that Ben would actually say these statements listed. He has elluded to Lockheeds Stealth Blimp and that little bit of information spouted out...really got him in trouble. I don't think he would be so stupid as to drop a bomb of this level.
Split Infinity
In Rich's autobiography entitled "Skunk works: A Personal Memoir of My Years at Lockheed," Rich is all business has he details his history and work on the SR-71 Blackbird and the F-117A stealth fighter. When the incredible SR-71 was making its 2000 mph developmental test runs across the western US, he mentions twice in the book that the test facilities would call ahead to NORAD and inform them that the radar returns they would be getting at such and such times of a fleeting craft would not a UFO, but of a secret test vehicle.
Make of it as you will.
Originally posted by loves a conspiricy
I dont buy it.....
Nearly all “biomorphic” aerospace designs were inspired by the Roswell spacecraft — from Kelly’s SR-71 Blackbird onward to today’s drones, UCAVs, and aerospace craft…
Makes no sense whatsoever.
Why would a spacecraft have to be streamline?? How is the SR71 a biomorphic aircraft??
Wasnt the roswell craft disc shaped?
Ive not looked into this dude....i will now as he sounds as absurd as many of the others
Originally posted by Gazrok
I find it highly unlikely that Ben would actually say these statements listed. He has elluded to Lockheeds Stealth Blimp and that little bit of information spouted out...really got him in trouble. I don't think he would be so stupid as to drop a bomb of this level.
Split Infinity
The thing is though...as the secret keepers get older, and closer to the final chapter, they start to feel a little untouchable, and some feel the need to tell others.
It's more rare than common, but it happens. Still though, my money is on, if he said it, it was really just disinfo to frighten our enemies.
In Rich's autobiography entitled "Skunk works: A Personal Memoir of My Years at Lockheed," Rich is all business has he details his history and work on the SR-71 Blackbird and the F-117A stealth fighter. When the incredible SR-71 was making its 2000 mph developmental test runs across the western US, he mentions twice in the book that the test facilities would call ahead to NORAD and inform them that the radar returns they would be getting at such and such times of a fleeting craft would not a UFO, but of a secret test vehicle.
Make of it as you will.
Right, but that really means he was just identifying it for them, so they didn't go crazy trying to figure it out. That was a great book, and really gave you an inside look at how the programs developed.edit on 5-10-2011 by Gazrok because: (no reason given)
Lockheed "Skunk Works" former director knew the Roswell extraterrestrial UFO influenced designs of Testor model kits for Roswell UFO models, and U.S. top secret aircraft.
I can announce that he personally confirmed the design connection between the Roswell Spacecraft and the Lockheed Martin Unmanned Combat Air Vehicles (UCAVs)
'There are 2 types of UFOs -- the ones we build and ones 'they' build. We learned from both crash retrievals and actual "hand-me-downs."
Nearly all "biomorphic" aerospace designs were inspired by the Roswell spacecraft -- from Kelly's SR-71 Blackbird onward to today's drones, UCAVs, and aerospace craft…'
Originally posted by Peloquin
My sighting lasted just a couple of seconds, but it was enough to make me believe, that there IS something out there, that might change everything...
I have no idea how much time it will take, but I'm pretty sure, one day we all will know, what it's really all about.
We are being plagued by both of those and the pentagon parasites as well.