reply to post by JR MacBeth
You're going against the mainstream on your idea of Hebrew somehow being the oldest language.
I never said anything about Hebrew being the oldest language (although i do believe it to be the most essential language) in my post. I said this
phenomena of the root of the word what becoming water must come from Hebrew, since its our oldest example of it.
Also, you said earlier that "Man hu", what is this? This merely proves my point. Manna was a substance regarded by the sages as the "dew" of
heaven. Mystically, this refers to that simple, and undifferentiated awareness of the unity of all. Water is a perfect symbolism for this. "Not by
bread alone does a man live", but by Man, which is derived from the word eMUNah - faith. It is the simple connection of the ego with the
undifferentiated self, uniting microcosm and macrocosm, that water accomplishes. Hence why when it rains it comes from the skies, or "heaven". From
above, this power comes below. Up above we just see a mass of clouds ie; undifferentiated potential. But when it rains, it gives of the potential,
undifferentiated power of What, to the earth. And the Earth brings forth fruit, or, expresses differentiation.
Yes, "Indo-European" could be considered "made up", but actually it's a widely accepted linguistic theory that posits a proto-language, and it
could be called a lot of things. The point is, the theory seems to help explain many language similarities.
In the indo-european language groups. It does not account for semitic languages.
In anycase, there might be a tendancy towards the "aryans" - which is what this indo-european language group refers to, In academia, then towards
the Semites - represented most by the Jews, and Hebrew.
This is why if you even go to wikipedia, and type in the word "abracadabra", the famed word with magical power, you will get either an explanation
of the word, or a history of it, without providing an etymology(it changes often) or you will get the INCORRECT etymology of Aramaic. ANY competent
reader of Aramaic knows that this word in the Aramaic language is Abra HA dabra. the article "heh", means "like". In Hebrew conversely, Caf, means
"like". Thus, AbraCaDabra is HEBREW for "i create like i speak" or "I create that which i speak", which makes an equivalence between the act of
creation with the act of speech.
There is an ANTI-biblical bias in academia. This is a basic, rudimentary knowledge that any honest person will tell you.
So, you read Hebrew at this point? Congratulations. How could it be that you seem to be confusing "manna" (that "bread" that came down in the
desert), with "water"?
What do you mean "at this point", Ive been reading Hebrew for a good 5 years. As long as i have been posting here my knowledge of Herbrew has been
fine. Not Rabbinical fine, or at a scholarly level, but i can read the Hebrew bible without difficulty. That includes, Psalms, Proverbs, ie; the books
with the more difficult Hebrew. Not the first chapters of genesis, which a 2nd greater can read.
How could it be that you seem to be confusing "manna" (that "bread" that came down in the desert), with "water"?
What are you talking about? I think youre confused. I never even mentioned manna in my earlier post. "Man Hu" is a VARIATION of the much more
commonly used "Mah Hu". So Man in that verse is translated as Mah.
Also Lechem more generally means "food", as it appears in many other contexts where the implied meaning is food, and not bread. This again is basic
knowledge that any reader of Hebrew would know.
"What is it?" Since you point out my ignorance, perhaps you can clear up how this question that became a noun, has anything to do with water, other
than the first letter perhaps?
You have to appreciate basic ideas first.
Every consonant in the Hebrew language (all languages are based on this principle) is considered an "element" of reality. The Mem sound is
considered the most primal of all sounds. For instance, in Buddhism one utters "OMMMMMM" when trying to enter a state of inner calm and silence. The
sound of emphasis being the M.
Thus, the "M", nowwithstanding the heh in the word Mah, is the core element of "what". The yod mem in Mayim are the elements which bring forth the
concept of water.
This is the same in Arabic, where mem is again the major sound. With another guttoral sound what "ma" becomes "ma'a" water.
In the other languages, W replaces M. Now, i know youre going to consider me childish for stating that the shape of the M and W are REFLECTIONS of
each other, and they both infact reflect the shape of a wave of water.
This again is deliberate. In latin, there is a greater divergement from the sound, but the sore idea remains. The sound "Q" in "Quid", is what
remains in the word "aQua". Again the Q being the consonant of emphais.
As I said, I'm no Hebrew scholar, but perhaps you better keep at your lessons.
I dont get what you have to be so insulting for. I would respond as i do if you respected my knoweldge of Hebrew above your own. If youre not a
scholar, and you clearly have an amateurish interest in the subject, why criticize me?? You dont even know enough - and i clearly see it everytime -
yet you continue to badger and annoy.