Do two wrongs make a right?

I know politics tends to bring out the worst in people regardless of how calm and collective they are or how enthusiastic and explosive they are. We see the political chaos here on ATS as well, we are no different. When I see posters state such blatantly ignorant replies such as these:

(Context: McDonalds tells their employees to vote for Republicans)

Psssh. Non story. Unions tell there members this sort of thing all the time.

(I will not give the name of the poster so as to protect their privacy)

It just makes me sad that people can act that just because one side is despicable it makes it right for the other side to be as well. As somehow two wrongs make a right. I presume people who post such ludicrous material such as these have much more common sense than they exhibited in their post. Yet such childish behavior continues not just here on ATS but in our daily lives whether it be our occasional blunders, our family/friends or the partisanship currently on display across our media.

We should not condone such behavior as simply dismissing their slip up or even worse their actual belief. We should challenge them on it, call them out and force them to explain how they could rationally come to such a position. Do they truly believe that two wrongs make a right? I definitely do not subscribe to such beliefs just as I hope they don’t either.

So I must ask my fellow members of ATS; do two wrongs make a right?

Mrs Obama is campaigning for carrots and alphalpha at school tuckshops and the democrats also want junk food deserts to be implemented the administration is openly anti Mc Donalds,Coca Cola and others so to me its no surprise these corporations will support republicans.

reply to post by Misoir


it happens on both sides no honest person would even try to lie about it.

two wrongs make an election process that we all know so well this day

my problem is when one side calls the other side out when they are doing the sames things

i cant stand one side and i have no illusions about the party i identify with i have problems with both but at the moment there is one side in massive need to be put in check.

two wrong make a wrong and we all should call it out for what it is crony politics which has no place in this country and yet today is not any different that any election of the past.

we all know whats what and we all cry foul when it happens and we do the same things we always do

nothing.

No, but 3 rights make a left.

Really, the main problem is that people are sheep, and have so many issues making decisions for themselves.

If it were any different, we wouldn't need anyone to "govern" us. If people would finally MAKE UP THEIR OWN minds, and STICK to their guns, a large percentage of the malarky that flies arund this country (world, even) would not happen.

reply to post by Misoir


They are probably being told to vote republican because if the dems get their way, and Obama care becomes entrenched as law in this land, then McDonalds will have to fire a whole lotta' people due to the fact that they can't afford Obama care AND salaries.

Obamacare and waivergate thread here

As for do two wrongs make a right? Dunno. Sometimes. Depends on the situation I think.

reply to post by anglodemonicmatrix


I conclude that your opinion is that two wrongs do make a right. Just because Mrs. Obama is campaigning against the sorts of foods that McDonalds serves does not provide them with the right to intimidate their workers into voting for candidates he/she may disapprove of. That is voter intimidation by your employer which I do believe is illegal.

It is truly sad that so many people either refuse to or are unable to rise above the rest, be the bigger man so to speak.

reply to post by Misoir

No Mc Donalds management do not have the right to tell you how to vote,they can explain however that the current administration is formulating laws and policies which are anti Mc Donalds which when implemented could hurt Mc Donalds and cause them to shut down outlets and lay off workers.

There was a recent thread here about voter intimidation by unions. It made some pretty heavy allegations too, like actually busing workers there, and watching voters vote to make sure they voted the right way. Also anyone that doesn't see that both parties are constantly pulling underhanded crap, must be a pirate. Take the frikken patch off the other eye matey! Corruption is not only bad when the other party is doing it!

I'm a little confused. Is this thread about "Do Two Wrongs Make a Right?" or is it about the McDonald's corporation telling their employees to vote for Republicans? If it's the latter, was it the corp or was it a single franchisee? Sorry, I haven't heard the story and didn't see a link here.

So, I guess I'll stick to the topic of the thread title. Do two wrongs make a right? Not that I've ever heard of, but let's give it a try.

Wrong #1 - McDonald's tells their employees to vote for Republicans. If it is done in a way that makes the employees feel intimidated, then it is very wrong.

Wrong #2 - Making a thread which not so subtly suggests that this type of behavior is characteristic of conservatives or Republicans only.

Nope. Don't see a right anywhere!

reply to post by Misoir


I have a question for you Misoir.

If I open a business and commence to hiring people, is it alright for me to ask them if they lean left or right?

Socialist vs Libertarian or whatever vs Libertarian?

If the owner intimidated them, according to current law, what they did was criminal.

But to me, if I own my company, I feel I can hire who I want based on their moral and work values. Is that wrong?

Of course two wrongs do not make a right - this is such a well-known example of erroneous thinking that it is listed as a logical fallacy under that very name.

So the poster who said, "It's no big deal for McDonald's to tell workers how to vote because unions do the same thing" is flat out wrong - there is no room for debate.

reply to post by Misoir


Do to wrongs make a right?

Only if you multiply them.

Originally posted by Misoir
(Context: McDonalds tells their employees to vote for Republicans)

Psssh. Non story. Unions tell there members this sort of thing all the time.

It just makes me sad that people can act that just because one side is despicable it makes it right for the other side to be as well.

The poster did not say that it was RIGHT for either side to do it. They said it's a non-story. It seems to me that you assumed the poster was approving of one side doing it because the other side does it. And I don't see that in the quote you posted... Perhaps more of their post is needed for context?

So, my opinion on the whole thing, without seeing the whole interaction, is that you've made a big deal about what you assumed about the other poster. If you don't like their comments, making a thread (in political madness) to get others to agree with you about this poster is more ignorant, childish and ludicrous (your words) than the poster posting his/her thoughts that it's a non-story.

And no, I am not the other poster.

And no, 2 wrongs don't make a right. And starting a thread to trash another poster isn't right either.