Germans were victims?

Apparantly some Germans are upset that we Brits are finally honouring Bomber Command and our crews who helped to smash the Nazi war machine by bombing cities like Dresden.

Imagine that! A cry of foul from a country who willingly supported the brutal destruction of Europe (while they were winning) and the mass murder of millions of innocent men, women and children in the Death Camps and the evil and inhuman experimentation in the camps at Buchenwald and Auschwitz by fantasists like Josef Mengele.

Germans should be thankful that we allowed any of them to live after they cost the world an estimated 30 million souls and in my particular case, 5 of 7 uncles in both World Wars.

If anybody should be ashamed of what happened 70 odd years ago, it should be the Germans. They should remember that it was them who started the Blitz on London when Heinkel 111s first dropped their bombs on the East End.

That Germany reaped the whirlwind was right and propper. She has nothing to moan about.

As for the mouths that support the German point of view, always remember that if it was not for the brave men and women who fought the Battle of Britain, and the British, American, Canadian and ANZAC bomber crews that brought Germany to her knees, most of you would not be around to spout your lopsided point of view.

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reply to post by Freedom_is_Slavery

What a pity you had to resort to using incomprehensible ramblings, otherwise this former airman would have been able to understand your rant at me.

The fact is Sir, that I am a former Londoner who'se playground was the shattered remains of back to back and end to end terraced housing that Nazi Germany tried to erase from the face of the earth, once they had lost the Battle of Britain.

This Sir was called The Blitz and not content to try and destroy London and the will of Londoners, Hitler and his very fat Luftwaffe General Hermann Goering decided to export their terror raids to Brimingham, Coventry, Bristol, Portsmouth and other cities, targetting civilian workers (mainly women) and the list is endless.

In London alone between 8th September and 12th November 1940, despite a bried respite of 10 days, 16.000 Londoners (mostly Eastenders) lost their lives, but the total number of British casualties were about 60,000 with a further 46,000 injured together with a total loss of 1M dwellings. The V1 and V2 raids cost (roughly) a further 8,000 casualties.

The Blitz against Coventry when Kampfgeschwader 100 bombed the Spitfire factories and worker's homes, could have become the firestorms later visited on German cities and industries but, because of the size of the German bombs, the firestorm failed to materialise.

When the expected firestorm failed to happen, the Luftwaffe changed tactics and waves of bombers armed with incendaries followed by waves of bombers armed with high explosive, blitzed Coventry in an effort to shatter the aero industries.

The same thing happened in Bristol, Birmingham and even Belfast thenm Liverpool were bombed in this fashion.

I was not seeking to glorify the attacks on Dresden, but I can say in all honesty that this was valid military targets and although many people do not know it, Dresden was the important railhead where German troops were sent to fight the advancing Russians from.

Dresden also had light arms industry manufacturing amongst others things, telescopic bomb sights, fuses and military radios as well as being one of the premier ammunition manufacturies.

Far from being an innocent civilians, they were a valid military target. Thus both the RAF and USAF bombed it day and night.