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Legal rights (sometimes also called civil rights or statutory rights) are rights conveyed by a particular polity, codified into legal statutes by some form of legislature (or unenumerated but implied from enumerated rights), and as such are contingent upon local laws, customs, or beliefs.
natural rights (also called moral rights or inalienable rights) are rights which are not contingent upon the laws, customs, or beliefs of a particular society or polity. Natural rights are thus necessarily universal, whereas legal rights are culturally and politically relative.
Originally posted by monkeySEEmonkeyDO
Acknowledging that you understand your rights, and then refusing questions, isn't violating your rights. If in custody, but before being questioned, the Police HAVE to read you your Miranda Rights. A simple "yes" or "no" isn’t incriminating yourself.
[edit on 15-6-2010 by monkeySEEmonkeyDO]
[edit on 15-6-2010 by monkeySEEmonkeyDO]
Originally posted by airspoon
reply to post by AwakeinNM
That's no longer the case. There is no clear and defined measure to suggest that you invoked your rights. The burden of proof that you were clear in invoking your rights is on you. If the cops try to say, "well him asking for a lawyer wasn't clear because of the way he asked it". You would then have to prove that it was clear. How would one go about doing that?
--airspoon
Originally posted by airspoon
There is no clear and defined measure to suggest that you invoked your rights.
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by airspoon
Boy the title to your thread couldn't be more appropriate, and you sure seem hell bent on making sure it is true, regardless of the facts. Coercion is a crime and not a single LEO in this country has been given any legal authority to coerce another person. Further, no one can accidentally speak out after asserting their right to remain silent. Once the right to remain silent has been asserted, it is incumbent upon the person asserting that right to do exactly that and remain silent.
All this burden of proof nonsense you keep spouting is just nonsense. If a person has remained silent there is no need to prove they have remained silent, and any assertions by an LEO that this person did not remain silent is just here say. Failing a signed confession, or an audio or video tape showing that person speaking, there is no burden of proof regarding the right to remain silent. One does not need to prove they have this right, and if they have remained silent then there is no burden of proof for that person, and the burden of proof remains where it belongs, with the court party making the assertion. This is a fact of law.