Climate change human link evidence

I'm old enough to remember in the 1970's B.I. (Before Internet) when we were all headed for another Ice Age. It was also in the 70's when the environmental movement rammed something down our throats called a catalytic converter. A nice little device that added an extra Oxygen molocule to the Carbon Monoxide coming out of car tail pipes and converted it to Carbon Dioxide. At the time they were all cheerful and telling us it was better because Carbon Dioxide was "plant food".

When are people going to realize that the environmental movement has been hijacked by Communists and Socialists? The KGB funded the environmental movement at the beginning to create a hassle over the West's deployment of military forces. Then they expanded it to the anti-nuke agenda, to keep the West from becoming energy independant. The USSR wanted us to become reliant on the Middle East for our energy needs. That way if there ever was a war they could interdict oil shipments and hold the West hostage.

Now with the downfall of the USSR, the environmental movement has become the puppets of the Globalists, who's objective is to put everybody's economy in the tank so that they can assume control.

WAKE UP AND SMELL WHAT YOU ARE SHOVELING!

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There's reason to be skeptical of the greenist religion around global warming. While the scientific community obviously doesn't really know to what extent our lifestyle impacts the climate, there is no way you can infer from this that we shouldn't do anything to protect the environment. All data points to the same truth: we're wrecking our planet, regardless if you buy into the global warming theory or not. It's genocide, but on an environmental level.

Skeptics don't get it, because they're more concerned about parting from the crowd and looking at pure economics. Anti-skeptics don't get it, because they're more concerned about appearing morally good and looking at the effects of environmental problems, not causes. No need for conspiracy theories or world government policy making.

It's simple. First, spot the problems we've made for ourselves. Two, look at the causes, which mainly center around urban sprawl and unsustainable lifestyles. We don't need any more factors in the equation. Global warming may be true, or it might be some giant lie that leftists invented to oppress us with taxes. Either way, we remain fundamentally disconnected from the ecological cycle. When leftists realize taxation is ineffective in reducing urban expansion and rightists understand economics within an environmental context, environmentalism will no longer be a Right-Left issue. Conservation = common sense. Spread the word.

I would permit myself to ask a question with the lifestyle our society has would it be possible to take action- what measures? What do you think the Copenhagen was about?

It says the earth is changing rapidly, probably because of greenhouse gases

Probably? Probably doesn't inspire me to believe. Probably also means that you're not 100% sure. How bout we get 100% sure instead of probably.



They also said that artificial sweeteners were safe, WMDs were in Iraq and Anna Nicole married for love.
-Mr. Rate

Originally posted by concernedcitizan
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There's reason to be skeptical of the greenist religion around global warming. While the scientific community obviously doesn't really know to what extent our lifestyle impacts the climate, there is no way you can infer from this that we shouldn't do anything to protect the environment.

This is the same old rhetoric we hear from the green camp, if you disagree with the "consensus" you must disagree with the alternatives. This could not be further from the truth. But there is a difference between educating the masses and allowing them to make informed choices and lying to them in order to justify forcing them into a particular way of doing things. Let us not forget that were not for the fact that the corporate world has stiffled technology for decades, being patent trolls for example, then most of us may very well be living in a greener environment already. False assumptions and draconian policy based on bad science will do no one any favours, least of all the poorest in society.

If climate change is such a concern to the governments of this planet then why are they hiding the knowledge of free energy technology...no profit to be made is the simple answer.

Originally posted by Hadrian

Perhaps, yet again, futile, but more scientific consensus on global warming due to fossil fuel combustion.

Not only that the planet is warming, but that it is specifically due to the burning of fossil fuels.

If that was actually true why arent governments pushing for a vast increase in nuclear power stations to replace coal fired ones?

Originally posted by Hadrian
We went from "likely to probably" ... in 2007. Now, the article indicates "since then the evidence that human activities are responsible for a rise in temperatures has increased."

Debunked over and over here and elsewhere.

The latest was when the scientist from the UK in question admitted hiding data showing that the warming had stopped over the last 15 years.

Will you be the last person on the planet to finally realize that this is nothing more than a scam?

Until then, would you mind paying my share of the bill for this scam?

Originally posted by centurion1211
Until then, would you mind paying my share of the bill for this scam?

Its too bad that we can't pass a law whereby only the supporters of a particular measure have to foot the bill. That would solve an awful lot of problems as far as governing is concerned.

Originally posted by vor78

Originally posted by centurion1211
Until then, would you mind paying my share of the bill for this scam?

Its too bad that we can't pass a law whereby only the supporters of a particular measure have to foot the bill. That would solve an awful lot of problems as far as governing is concerned.

Pretty easy to do.

Just add a box at the end of everyone's tax return that says check this box if you would like an additional $1,000 (or whatever) withheld if you believe in the climate scam.

Bet even Al Gore wouldn't check the box ...

Originally posted by Space_Lord
If climate change is such a concern to the governments of this planet then why are they hiding the knowledge of free energy technology...no profit to be made is the simple answer.

If they are hiding it how do you know about it? And while youre answering that how about telling us what you know about it, maybe post some schematics and theory. One more question, if you know about the free energy tech then I suppose others know, why isnt anyone using it?

I love being called a conservative by climate truthers and a liberal by everyone else.

Name calling doesnt make your theory any more real than the incredible hulk.

Originally posted by Astyanax
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The guzzlers don't want to hear it, but facts are stubborn.

This is the truth of the debate in a nutshell.
The guzzlers want to keep guzzling.

Originally posted by vor78

Originally posted by centurion1211
Until then, would you mind paying my share of the bill for this scam?

Its too bad that we can't pass a law whereby only the supporters of a particular measure have to foot the bill. That would solve an awful lot of problems as far as governing is concerned.

How about... Only the polluters will have to foot the bill ?

Oh that's right. That's what they are trying to do.

...global warming isnt the crucial factor - its secondary... the big enchilada is global dimming... yep, DIMMING - as in growing darker because of the effect of comtrails on clouds - but - dont worry, be happy - we're all gonna die in 2012 anyways...