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Gordon H. Guyatt, a professor of epidemiology and biostatistics at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, who coined the term "evidence-based medicine," collaborated with 16 of his colleagues in an exhaustive survey of existing studies on the outcomes of various medical procedures in both the U.S. and Canada. Their work appears in the inaugural issue of the new Canadian journal Open Medicine, and comes at a time when many in Canada are debating whether or not to move that country's single-payer system toward for-profit delivery of care. The ultimate conclusion of the study is that the Canadian medical system is as good as the U.S. version, at least when measured by a single metric—the rate at which patients in either system died.
According to Woolhandler, by looking at already ill patients, the researchers eliminated any Canadian lifestyle advantage and just examined the degree to which the two systems affected patient deaths. (Mortality was the one kind of data they could extract from a disparate pool of 38 papers examining everything from kidney failure to rheumatoid arthritis.)
Overall, the results favored Canadians, who were 5 percent less likely than Americans to die in the course of treatment. Some disorders, such as kidney failure, favored Canadians more strongly than Americans, whereas others, such as hip fracture, had slightly better outcomes in the U.S. than in Canada. Of the 38 studies the authors surveyed, which were winnowed down from a pool of thousands, 14 favored Canada, five the U.S., and 19 yielded mixed results.
The study's authors highlight the fact that per capita spending on health care is 89 percent higher in the U.S. than in Canada. "One thing that people generally know is that the administration costs are much higher in the U.S.," Groome notes. Indeed, one study by Woolhandler published in The New England Journal of Medicine in 2003 found that 31 percent of spending on health care in the U.S. went to administrative costs, whereas Canada spent only 17 percent on the same functions.
According to Woolhandler, by looking at already ill patients, the researchers eliminated any Canadian lifestyle advantage and just examined the degree to which the two systems affected patient deaths.
Originally posted by jsobecky
Canadian lifestyle advantage? Can somebody define that?
Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by jsobecky
Canadian lifestyle advantage? Can somebody define that?
I read that as a healthier lifestyle. Less McDonalds. I've seen some commercials from smaller burger chains, Checkers, et al and damn, my arteries harden just by watching the commercials.
Originally posted by jsobecky
Canadian lifestyle advantage? Can somebody define that?
Originally posted by cavscout
I don’t know about satisfaction, but I know that I would never be satisfied waiting 6 months for a needed MRI.
Originally posted by cavscout
No, I like choosing my doctor. I like the fact that my doctor knows that if he doesn’t fix me I will stop giving him money.
Originally posted by cavscout
Mortality rates? Are most people who go to the doctor dieing?
A better way to look at it, IMO, is to look at overall satisfaction of the patients as well as the effect that one person's health has on an unrelated person.
I don’t know about satisfaction, but I know that I would never be satisfied waiting 6 months for a needed MRI.
I go to my doctor and request an area of my body get an MRI and it is scheduled that week. If I need it, it can be done that day. If they don’t provide what I ask for, I take my money somewhere else.
It boils down to the socialist vs. capitalist arguments. I like having a doctor who works for my business, I feel I get better care that way; my doctor is greedy and wants my money, just the way I like it.
And I do have some experience with "free" health care from my days in the Army and later the VA. Sure, it was great making an appointment every time one of my kids got the sniffles. What wasn’t great was the lack of quality the care entailed. After all, I couldn’t take my business down the road so there was no reason to try and please me. "Broken arm? Take Motrin and stop smoking. What? That cyst growing on your neck? Oh here is some Motrin, and make sure to stay hydrated or it will spread."
No, I like choosing my doctor. I like the fact that my doctor knows that if he doesn’t fix me I will stop giving him money.
I just wish the government paid for a little less socialist medicine because it drives up the price for those of who work and have insurance. And not to mention the fact that I get paid less because part of my compensation package for WORKING is medical insurance, and then I get hit again to pay for Medicare for people that aren’t WORKING.
Oh well, I guess that is what happens when the socialist gunk starts to leak downhill to the real America. You crazy Canadians with your snowmobiles and hinged faces, stop trying to keep everyone alive.