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Revolution, flashmobs, and brain chips. A grim vision of the future

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posted on Apr, 9 2007 @ 05:10 AM
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these brain implants, neuro chips, with todays technology are composed of fragile metal filaments arem't they?

so how would these chips fare when radiated with a CAT Scan or MRI
used for scanning a body, particulary the brain??

so, along with Christians refusing to get a chip (aka; mark-of-beast)
many would evade even forced implantation because of one's brain getting
fried internally by either medical diagnostic tools, or future hand held microwave guns that would kill 'chipped' people with a head-shot, if they ever massed in protest...



posted on Apr, 9 2007 @ 09:13 AM
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I would rather die, than permit the state to place an implanted chip in my body.

Does America consider Norway a communist Marxist country? They devote 49% of their taxes to the social safety net and engage in economic practices that protect workers.

Marx's vision of a world proletariat uprising will not be safe-guarded by China's totalitarianism that's more similar to Stalin's Russia, than Norway's socialism. Most obviously free market capitalism has no interest whatsoever in government regulated corporate activity.

Looks like the totalitarianists are going to duke it out. And they're not going to implant me towards that end.
It's just another step on the ladder to a Total Surveillance Awareness network. And I'm none of their business.



posted on Apr, 9 2007 @ 09:30 AM
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This kind of thing is a major topic for discussion when I go to book events. trouble is, thre aren't enough people speaking up about it. I mean that. The last book store I was in had fewer than fifty books that warned against what you suggest.

Technology can be our slave, or we can be a slave to technology. But..there's a third argument that I just don't hear. We run the risk of allowing our leaders to use technology to enslave us. Any tool can be put to a good use, or a bad use. My bowl and spoon can be used to facilitate my breakfast, or a murder. Intent matters.



posted on Apr, 9 2007 @ 10:42 AM
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I read this article yesterday.

And it is kind of double edge sword: on one hand you can be suspicious of motive for such scenario,coz told like that -could be very good excuse for some kind of actions which could target listed 'dangers'.


On the other hand: fear of (it is not nuf to say just 'new technologies") 'transhumanistics' future of humankind. Those who think - "o, but we had changes in the past....people are always afraid of 'new' and future" - very, very in wrong here.

This has never happened in human history - genetical engineering, nanotehnology, artificial intelligence - are beyond seen. We are to re- arrange Darwinian evolution, our mind - we are to engineer evolution. It is our next stage.And we are in unknown territory.

If somebody looks on numerous futuristic sites - he could find topics on law like this "The Rights o Robots" seeking rights and legal recognition of powerful AI machines.

Nanotehnology is maybe one of those advances that bare the most uncertainty in ethical, health and safety or social issues.


We would think that SF books were way way        of - but we are going in that direction. I strongly recommend 'Engines of Creation' by K. E. Drexler, nanotech pioneer // researcher at MIT's artificial intelligence lab / who warned that 'replicating assemblers and thinking machines pose basic threats to people and life on Earth' --- threatening to turn everything on the planet into an amorphous 'gray goo.'


We can't escape progress and change. Why should we! But we must be very careful about possible dangers and moral challenges of modern science. holding our rights to properly use this new and powerful scientific tools. They can benefit us or hurt us gravely.


Mentioning 'revolution' in a context with middle class - looks to me that reach and ones holding political power are trying to divert anger and frustration of many to from himself. They sure do not want any change in that sense. So - if you are going to protest on something: they can label you with scary world 'Marxist'...beside 'terrorist'.

My prospective is different : in Hegelian sense, we have Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis. Capitalism being Thesis, Socialism Antithesis; and guess what - Synthesis is on the move. You know what is Synthesis: New World Order.

So my fellow humans be brave and try not to forget what humanity is about, and that we have conscience, and are not to justify progress or political agendas 'dressed' in nice colors , which is to be done by any means.



* sorry for long post



posted on Apr, 9 2007 @ 11:40 AM
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To spin of on your Hegelian poitn, motive and purpose are not the same thing. They can, however, be governed by intent. When the majority of us no longer act with good intent, we leave ourselves vulnerable to the minority who could act with impure motive.



posted on Apr, 9 2007 @ 02:22 PM
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What if you consider the following article. Is this a step in the right direction? They are drafting guidelines and rules for next generation robots in Japan. Could this same guidelines be used for people with a brain chip? The way I see it, if the Ministry of Defense sees a "Marxist" revolution in the future, it seems to me that they really don't want that, and they have set in plan their strategy to prevent, if not control.


The document, entitled Draft Guidelines to Secure the Safe Performance of Next Generation Robots, was obtained by The Timesyesterday. It extends to nearly 60 pages of civil service jargon. It calls for the formation of a special study group of industrialists, academics, ministry officials and, of course, lawyers to draw up a set of firm proposals to govern the development of robots.

The Robots are running riot! Quick, bring out the red tape!



posted on Apr, 11 2007 @ 04:38 AM
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Here's a little something about internment camps that some of you might like to have a lok at. Feel free to drop me or xpert11 a u2...if you dare.



posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 07:06 AM
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Too bad we can't build internment camps for warmongers....no wait, isn't that how it all started. There's always a spin.

Here's one good reason to chip your brain.



"It's a new direction in neural prosthesis," said Howard Eichenbaum, director of the Laboratory of Cognitive Neurobiology at Boston University. "The Berger enterprise is ambitious, aiming to provide a prosthesis for memory. The need is high, because of the prevalence of memory disorder in aging and disease associated with loss of function in the hippocampus."


But wouldn't it be nice if they devoted the same amount of time and research to investigating how to prevent or destroy a plaque, once it's formed in the brain.
University of Pittsburg has made some interesting breakthroughs concerning plaques of proteins in the brain, targeting them - or, the could test the meat supply for prions.
Like they do brucellois



posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 05:56 PM
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The internment camp debate is nearly finsihed. You might want to have a look at it before you run off to et your brain boosted.



posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by clearwater

Here's one good reason to chip your brain.



"It's a new direction in neural prosthesis," said Howard Eichenbaum, director of the Laboratory of Cognitive Neurobiology at Boston University. "... The need is high, because of the prevalence of memory disorder in aging and disease associated with loss of function in the hippocampus."


...University of Pittsburg has made some interesting breakthroughs concerning plaques of proteins in the brain, targeting them - or, the could test the meat supply for prions.




Uh huh.


FYI - Eichenbaum understates the Alzheimers/dementia pandemic: Dementia Care Costs Worldwide Reach $315 Billion

Also FYI - Dementia partly results from 'silent' strokes caused by high blood pressure.

Now - A groundbreaking study from the Universaity of Bristol identifies the protein JAM-1 as responsible for high blood pressure.



Brain Blamed for High Blood Pressure

JAM-1 apparently traps white blood cells, causing inflammation and obstructing blood flow. The result is that the brain is deprived of an adequate supply of oxygen, leading to the common condition of hypertension.

The controversial new report concludes that high blood pressure may well be "an inflammatory vascular disease of the brain", which promises to transform the way in which the condition is treated.

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Can the brain control Blood pressure?

As improbable as that sounds, BBC News reports that scientists at Bristol University in England say their research on laboratory rats indicates that a protein known as JAM-1 could actually be the substance that determines a person's blood pressure.

JAM-1 appears to trap white blood cells in the brain, obstructing blood flow, which in turn, causes inflammation in the brain, the scientists found. And this condition triggered elevated blood pressure, also known as hypertension.

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The cause of high blood pressure may lie within the brain, rather than with problems relating to the heart, kidneys or blood vessels, research suggests.

(Scientists at Bristol University) isolated a protein, JAM-1, which appeared to trap white blood cells, obstructing blood flow.

This can cause inflammation and result in poor oxygen supply to the brain.

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A third of all people in the UK will develop hypertension at some point during their life and there are more than 600 million people affected around the world. The researchers point out that hypertension is something of a "pandemic" that desperately needs to be addressed.





Interesting that cutting edge research focuses on "mutated" proteins, and doesn't refer to "prions" any more.




posted on Apr, 18 2007 @ 01:44 AM
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I have noticed that as we become capable of finding more desease, we find...more desease. How much of this stuff has always been with us? How much are we just now discovering? How much mroe will we learn as we press on? The mid boggles.



posted on Apr, 18 2007 @ 11:10 PM
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Originally posted by Justin Oldham

I have noticed that as we become capable of finding more desease, we find...more desease. How much of this stuff has always been with us? How much are we just now discovering? How much mroe will we learn as we press on?




Seems we have developed super efficient methods of spreading disease, and creating new ones, which incidentally, break all the old established rules of biology. ...Like e. coli that infects plants, not just animals, for example. Unheard of even 10 years ago...

What might we learn as we press on? Hopefully, a touch of humility.




posted on Apr, 18 2007 @ 11:16 PM
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I hear you. We've got so many bio-chemical research efforts going on that one doesn't know what the other is doing. I really wish that our scientific community would excersize some level of coordination. I have never heard of any scientist who is making it their mission to study interactivity. Is it me, or is that NOT neceesary?



posted on Apr, 19 2007 @ 12:17 AM
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Thanks Justin for your comments like always are greats. And our period is perhaps the last one when a free humanity will exist. It's the ultimate war. War against infinite slavery. It will literrally be like Brave New World.

Eugenics, drugs, propaganda, reduction of population, totalitarism, working camp, powerful elite. Then the technology might get over them and rule us all. Then the matrix will write history.

I don't think it's that far-fetched, after all, have you seen all the ``progress`` we made in the last 100 years? Imagine in 100 years if the constant power-hungry elite continue and push the technological fascism down our throats? Your childrens will be enslaved and they will never even know it. At least think that it's possible and it's probably a lot of power-hungry people ultimate dream and it may come true if we don't defeat them.



posted on Apr, 21 2007 @ 11:00 PM
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I recetnly had a fan of my work remind me of National ID cards and the role they played in my first book. I'd like to encourage you all to have a closer look at that, too. The scope and scale of what they plan to do with National ID cards may shock you. Use and collection of biometric data alone should be enough to keep some of you posting for weeks to come.



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