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reply posted on 12-6-2008 @ 11:34 AM by C0bzz
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Test pilot was Graham Tomlinson, - a former Royal Air Force Harrier pilot now employed by BAE Systems.
More pictures, including inflight ones.. here.
images.teamjsf.com...
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reply posted on 14-7-2008 @ 06:51 AM by Harlequin
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www.flightglobal.com...
 Boeing is “spreading lies and half-truths” about the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) programme in a “desperate and disgraceful” effort to
bolster domestic and foreign sales of its F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, according to US Air Force Lt Gen Charles “CR” Davis, a JSF programme
executive.
and
 Contacted for a response, Tom Bell, a Boeing business development official, said he was unaware of the specific comments that triggered Davis’
outburst, and so he could not give a direct response.
More generally, however, Bell pointed out that two JSF development partners – Australia and Denmark – have already acquired or are considering
acquiring F/A-18E/F’s instead.
“People with greater insight than I are looking at the offerings available,” Bell said. “Let people draw their own conclusions about
why.”
OUCH
are boeing trying to piss everyone off?
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reply posted on 24-7-2008 @ 11:57 AM by Canada_EH
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Older news but still news that should be covered here. The F-135 Powerplant is that much closer to completing testing with this announcement.
 Achieving 10,000 test hours is one of a series of milestones for the F135’s SDD ground test program. Pratt & Whitney’s F135 conventional
take-off and landing (CTOL) engine continues to power the F-35 Lightning II flight test program with 43 flight tests and more than 52 flight test
hours to date. Pratt & Whitney’s F135 short take-off and landing (STOVL) propulsion system powered the first flight of the F-35B on June 11, and
has accomplished a total of three flight tests and 2.4 flight hours to date.
The article can be found on the newly updated F-35 site found here:
www.jsf.mil...
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 08:12 AM by Canada_EH
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Also more news on the 35 program and its procurement into the forces. Evidently they think its going to be to slow.... I wonder why
 The Air Force wants to double its F-35 Lightning II buy over the next five years using $5 billion in recapitalization money that will begin to
flow in fiscal year 2010, Gen. Norton Schwartz, President Bush’s nominee to be the next Air Force Chief of Staff, said this week.
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 08:20 AM by Canada_EH
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Wow E this is crazy. No news really on the JSF front for a month and then all hell breaks lose. Now its news on the F-135 powerplant and the fact
thats its now going to go over budget again... I'll let them explain.
 The F135 is the first engine being developed to power Lockheed Martin's F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, and US military officials and P&W have
campaigned to make it the sole power source for the aircraft.
Disclosure of the new cost pressures, including a media report of an $850 million overrun, will provide a boost for the alternate JSF engine programme
- the General Electric/Rolls-Royce F136. The US Congress is debating whether to keep the programme alive, despite the Pentagon's decision for the
third year in a row to eliminate funding.
P&W attributes the cost pressures to an "unfavourable foreign exchange rate, the cost of materials, global market influences and other factors". The
company says: "It is premature to discuss the exact cost impact at this time."
www.flightglobal.com...
I'm sure all americans continue to believe that the Air Force where idiots in the tanker mess but I must say that seeing Congress try to cut out the
good leg from under a very heavy project is more then stupidity. We have been seeing the issues for a good year now where the H E double hockey sticks
are they getting there information from on this?
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reply posted on 29-7-2008 @ 08:23 AM by C0bzz
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 The F-35 appears to be on track and even slightly ahead of
the game in terms of cost.
www.airforce-magazine.com...
I haven't read the article btw yet.
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reply posted on 30-7-2008 @ 02:49 PM by Canada_EH
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Interesting tidbit on Canada's procurement ideas or possible changes. Must say I sorta had a hunch this could happen or at least be looked at as a
possibility.
 Canada considers F-35 carrier variant
Canada may scrap plans to buy some conventional F-35A Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) aircraft in favour of F-35C carrier variants well suited
for cold weather and Arctic operations, according to a defence industry source close to the JSF programme. Prime Minister Stephen Harper told Canadian
media on 12 May that Canada would buy 65 JSF aircraft instead of the 80 aircraft it was expected to buy under an agreement to provide funds for
Production, Sustainment and Follow-on Development (PFSD) of the aircraft ...
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reply posted on 31-7-2008 @ 03:34 PM by Harlequin
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www.defense-aerospace.com...
scroll down to
 Provides full funding for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, but redistributes funds within the program. The Committee reduces airframe production
funding by a total of $786 million, but increases funding by a total of $785 million for $430 million for development of an alternative engine,
and $320 million for risk mitigation in the test program (including the restoration of two test aircraft eliminated by the DoD last year).
seems like the issues at P&W don`t sit well with the DoD - cost overuns and the earlier failures.
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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 10:01 AM by Jezza
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JSF Delays Pile Up
Posted by Bill Sweetman at 8/11/2008 6:59 AM CDT
Graham Warwick's report on the latest delays to hit the JSF flight-test program undercuts most of the optimistic predictions made by industry and
government leaders earlier in the summer. It's now clear that problems with the F135 engine and other issues have forced another delay in the start
of the "build-down" flight tests that precede the demonstration of the F-35B's short take off, vertical landing (STOVL) capability.
This sequence of 20 flights, reaching progressively lower speeds, was planned for the first quarter of 2009, and as recently as mid-July (at the
Farnborough air show) Lockheed Martin program vice-president Tom Burbage said in an interview that these tests and the first vertical landing would be
carried out in the first quarter. (So did JSF program office director Gen. Charles Davis in a June interview.)
Now, the build-down tests won't start until the second quarter and the location for the first vertical landing - which had been planned to follow a
move from Fort Worth to Patuxent River - is once again open. DTI's prediction in our last issue that a vertical landing would not happen until well
into the second quarter now looks optimistic.
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Bugger the stovl get the A and C finished and finish the B later.
Most will be normal flight anyway
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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 12:15 PM by Canada_EH
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Agreed Jezza
Most Countries in Europe and Aus/Can are looking for CTOL aircraft. We are probably still looking at 2012 IOC as not happening though know till much
later. CAN is fine with just the CF-188 till 2018 with the modernized aircraft but AUS is in a much tighter spot with the defense requirements and
the timeline that appears to be further the supposed gap for the RAAF.
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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 02:51 PM by Harlequin
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Bugger that , the RAF and USMC want the Stovl version NOW.
put the other 2 on hold and get the STOVL one working - or better yet scrap the F135 engine for being utter crap and use the perfectly working F136.
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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 03:43 PM by Canada_EH
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I agree on the f-136 point but I disagree that the less purchased version out of the 3 should be put on the fast track. Never mind the fact that it
has the most technical issues out of the 3. If you get success with the A version early it can smooth the road for funding of the B if it hits snags.
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reply posted on 14-8-2008 @ 04:06 AM by C0bzz
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norway.usembassy.gov...
photos.state.gov...
And the best part of the whole thing:
Green Production, Green Operations, Green Support.
Hydrazine ------ None
Class I/II ODC ------- None
Halon -------- None
VOC Emissions -------- VOC-Exempt Solvents
Lead and Lead Compounds ------ Solder Only
Support Equipment Emissions ------ 25–50% Lower Than F-16
Engine Air Emissions -------- 50% Less CO, 82% Less VOC Than F-16
Beryllium -------- Only in Highly Loaded Busing
Production ----- Numerous Awards
Chromium Primer ------ None
F-35 - the GREEN choice.  LOL I guess the Hydrazine lack of is really good.
NEZ? No Escape Zone? Nup."Northern Economic Zone".
Block 5 w/ 6 AMRAAM-D?
& Su-37 that looks like J-10.
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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 08:25 AM by Canada_EH
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Interesting Article on the ramp up in Lockheed for the F-35 and the added fact of a Fighter a Day being thrown around for a plane that is behind
schedule
Enjoy
 Lockheed Martin Corp. plans to assemble the stealth plane here on a moving assembly line using digital processes and automation techniques that
are new to the defense aerospace sector, says Steve O’Bryan of Lockheed Martin’s F-35 business development team.
Though car manufacturers have built millions of vehicles on automated assembly lines, the concept of moving lines has not been applied to military
aircraft since World War II.
Modern warplanes typically have been built in small quantities over the course of many years. The Navy’s F/A-18, which has been in production for
more than 20 years, is being built at a rate of 42 aircraft per year. But the F-35 Lightning II is expected to be built at an unprecedented rate —
as many as 230 fighters per year.
Lockheed has embraced the moving assembly line concept as the linchpin to produce the next-generation fighter in large enough quantities to satisfy
U.S. and international sales.
The U.S. military is buying about 2,500 aircraft. Allied nations are purchasing an additional 500 or so. Lockheed Martin officials are expecting
foreign military sales to hike the total number to more than 4,000 Joint Strike Fighters.
You can the find the rest of it here:
www.nationaldefensemagazine.org...
Meh for me all the hype seems premature with the issues that the testing is facing now. Especially with the B model and the issues with getting into
the progress slower flights etc.
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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 08:42 AM by C0bzz
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As I understood it, I thought the F-16 was too, built at extreme rates similar to the F-35?
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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 10:11 AM by Canada_EH
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Originally posted by C0bzz
As I understood it, I thought the F-16 was too, built at extreme rates similar to the F-35? 
Your right it was but the first production line built the F-16A. Meaning one airframe for one mission over time it expanded to include about 3
different variants being built at one time in plants but take note that this was after they had sorted issues or some of them at least in the
production of the plane. And for the most part the parts and airframes are very similar.
I get the feeling that the 35 is to different from the get go when it comes to 3 variants to start as opposed to the 16's one. Its biting off more
then they can chew. in time yes you will have a line that works much like the 16's but its too much at once and the hardest plane to develop is the
one that gets all the press! Personally as I said to Har they need to get the stuff in order with the A model and get it into early production ASAP
and take the heat of the B model because other then the RAF no one other then the MArines and a couple of the USAF are taking them. build the A and
get the other buyers to issue some happy media about how they can be getting the planes soon ie Aus and Can and the European buyers.
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reply posted on 19-8-2008 @ 09:12 AM by Jezza
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some more good news
Fourth F-35 Lightning II Rolls Out as Production Line Fills Up at Lockheed Martin
(Source: Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company; issued August 18, 2008)
FORT WORTH, Texas --- With one F-35 Lightning II aircraft in structural testing, two in flight test, six in final assembly and another 14 in various
stages of production, Lockheed Martin added to the program's momentum on Saturday by finishing assembly of the fourth F-35 aircraft, a short
takeoff/vertical landing (STOVL) F-35B.
"The completion of our fourth F-35 -- and the growing line of aircraft now forming behind it -- shows an emerging rhythm in our production line,"
said Dan Crowley, Lockheed Martin executive vice president and F-35 program general manager. "In just a few days we will have all three Lightning II
variants in final assembly when we take delivery of the first F-35C carrier variant center fuselage. From the very first F-35, assembly quality has
been unprecedented, and each successive aircraft is measurably better than the one that preceded it."
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