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posted by wu kung
Not that I sleep with prostitutes, do drugs, or gamble; But seriously, should these three things be de-criminalized, legalized and govt. regulated Would legalizing these things make them less taboo? What do you all think?
posted by The Vagabond
The first thing I'll say is that I would not judge any of these issues on the grounds of morality or personal preference.
Prostitution. That's the easy one . . Selling is legal. Screwing is legal. Why isn't selling screwing legal? Nothing tangible happens in prostitution that doesn't happen in promiscuous sex, except of course for commerce . . “ [Edited by Don W]
Gambling. It ain’t against the law to throw your money away. The only possible snag is for compulsives. If you've got bad debts or commit crimes related to gambling, you've gotta be pulled out of the game and given a good reason to stay out, because now you're hurting others to support your obsession.
Drugs. "Drugs" is generally not a very useful word. Accusing someone of "doing drugs"is a lot like accusing them of "committing crimes". Are we talking about failing to wear your seatbelt or are we talking about murder 1? Are we talking about nicotine or crystal meth? Alcohol clearly does become addictive to certain people and is associated with severe health risks to accidents to the comission of crime . . Yet for most of us, it's clear that alcohol doesn't warrant prohibition . .
Yet the exact same standards of arguments used against methamphetamine does not produce a desired public health outcome. I stumbled across the answer by seting aside the standard for a minute and questioning enforcement. The costs of our prison system simply are not justified by the benefits of total enforcement . . we cut down enforcement to the must-catch cases . .
And of course sales. What's the point in letting the American people do anything that makes them happy unless you can tax the holy hell out of it? Only seems fair that the companies who profit from it and the people who take the risks should cover the costs for those who screw up . . “
I love Vegas and I don't want Vegas put out of business because every 7-11 in America has a slot machine. I also hate most "hard drugs" - I've got some understanding . . I can't believe the crap they pull . . And prostitution . . knock yourself out, I don't care. Not my thing for a variety of reasons . . That's why God invented damaged goods.
posted by Jenna
I'm all for the legalization of gambling. It can create a lot of income for the state, which takes some of the burden off the tax payers. [Edited by Don W]
As for the drugs, I have mixed feeling on that one. Drugs that are grown naturally, or occur naturally, I have no problem with. If someone wants to go smoke some pot, who am I to tell them they can't? But when it comes to the drugs people make in their bathtubs . . That's a whole different story . .
I have mixed feelings on prostitution too. If the women (or man, whichever the case may be) has gotten into prostitution because they like being paid for their services, are not forced or coerced into it in any way shape or form, and are able to stop if and when they decide they don't want to do it anymore, then I don't care. It's their body, However, situations where they are abducted ran away and are forced into prostitution to either A) keep someone from killing them, or B) get someone to keep protecting them from someone else from hurting them, or any variation that leads to them being forced into it, I don't agree with. [Edited by Don W]
posted by Odium
Yes, to all three. Donwhite, you seem to overlook many issues. Take Gambling for example. You're on the internet, if people were (1) die hard gamblers they can do it on here. They can go out in the United State's and buy (2) scratch cards or lottery tickets. (3) There are now National Poker Championships that are on television. You can bet on horse races which are on television, sport? So on and so fourth. They're all gambling and like it or not children already see it. [Edited by Don W]
As for drugs? I'd say legalize every drug which is "self use". If I take it, when I take it they cause no harm to anyone else or force anyone else to take it. Things like coc aine, '___', speed, etc. Drugs which if I take, nobody around me has too. Why should I not be allowed to? The problem with street drugs is when coc aine is cut with rat poison or so on and so fourth.
Prostitution should be legal. If sex was for sale, I believe rape would be in decline. The "houses" will be known by the police and they could employ security, if anything does ever get out of hand. All those involved could get "clean checks" before they can enter. The problem with things such as STDs is the culture where we ignore them and look away instead of bothering to be more open and cure them. [Edited by Don W]
posted by Odium
Why should they not be able to gamble though? If you make a choice, not to gamble, why should everyone else have to live with your ideas? I have yet to find a credible study which shows if a family member gambles, his children are more likely to gamble. The argument is the age old "Moral Decay" one, which has never been proven yet used time and time again. [Edited by Don W]
Originally posted by donwhite
I cannot conceive how gambling is a trait or a practice we would want to teach our children. The state revenues and taxpayer’s burden is not an adequate reason to have state sponsored or state approved gambling, IMO.
...willing to see the old time drugs of heroin and coc aine back on the drug store shelf. Maybe not OTC, but surely for sale to adults only.... medically prescribed drugs - is one of the two major problems in our “drug culture.” 1) We should ban all tv ads of medicines or drugs, and 2) we must teach our medical practitioners to stop prescribing to patients unless it is medically indicated...
It is not normal. For this reason if no other, I would have great reservations about allowing any person to engage in prostitution... I am nevertheless willing to build “Fun Houses” where under the right circumstances - including the medical examination of the would-be customer - which would assure as much as is possible, the safety of the prostitute. Of course, sex for hire involving any person under 18 is verboten. But providing sex for consenting adults under proper settings seems to me to be a socially desirable goal.
All I have said about prostitution applies to pornography as well. I admit it is also impossible to stop - just listen to what is posted on MySpace dot com. Again, while it is women who are “used” in 95% of pornography, there are more men and regrettably, more children found in pornography.
Because of the internet it is unrealistic to think porn cannot be transmitted, but I tell you one thing: Porn has to be sold. And as we just learned a few weeks ago in the WOT hullabaloo there is a company in Belgium called SWIFT which transfers funds around the world. Every internet website requires a credit card to sell the porn, so if we want to, we can stop that. It’s a matter of will. And we can do it without violating anyone’s privacy. Well, the porn sellers excepted.
Originally posted by laiguana I am thankful that there is honor and dignity in the -whitehouse-...Because if we had liberals running this nation it would have been desecrated long ago. .
Originally posted by whaaa
On topic: I don't need anyone telling me how to spend my money that I worked honestly for, whether it be on Hoochies, the ponys, or anything else. Leave me alone!
[edit on 16-7-2006 by whaaa]