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Here, the action taken by the House pursuant to 244(c)(2) was essentially legislative in purpose and effect and thus was subject to the procedural requirements of Art. I, 7, for legislative action: passage by a majority of both Houses and presentation to the President. The one-House veto operated to overrule the Attorney General and mandate Chadha's deportation.
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Without the veto provision, this could have been achieved only by legislation requiring deportation
Under the law, if maximum allowable deficit amounts were exceeded, automatic cuts, as requested by the Comptroller General, would go into effect.
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The Court found that the duties which the Congress delegated to the Comptroller General did violate the doctrine of separation of powers and were unconstitutional. A two step process led Chief Justice Burger to arrive at this conclusion. First, in exploring the statute defining the provisions of the Comptroller General's office relating to the Congress's power of removal, it was clear to Burger that this officer was subservient to the legislative branch. Second, in examining the functions that this officer would carry out under the Deficit Control Act, Burger concluded that the Comptroller General was being asked to execute the laws and, thus, was intruding on the perogatives of the executive branch.
Originally posted by The Vagabond
It took the spotlight off of the abuse of executive power and put it on why a given person isn't an ATSNN moderator. All well and good if you're really just here to "throw coconuts" (I have other suspicions) but it's against T&C to throw them at other members.
Originally posted by Regenmacher
so I will that take advice as another one of your control issues.
he intends to set a legal precedence
How's 4 more years grab ya.... ad infinetum.
Originally posted by The Vagabond
Presidents don't make precedents, legally speaking.
"The novelty of the proposal previously discussed by this Group is the suggestion that Presidential signing statements be used to address questions of interpretation. Under the Constitution, a bill becomes law only when passed by both houses of Congress and signed by the President (or enacted over his veto). Since the President's approval is just as important as that of the House or Senate, it seems to follow that the President's understanding of the bill should be just as important as that of Congress. Yet in interpreting statutes, both courts and litigants (including lawyers in the Executive branch) invariably speak of "legislative" or "congressional" intent. Rarely if ever do courts or litigants inquire into the President's intent."
www.d-n-i.net...
Originally posted by Regenmacher
4 more years to infinity was a euphemism in regards to a unitary presidency. It was a joke, since there won't be any terms under a dictatorship. Egads, I wonder if you even have a sense of humor at times.
You have to explain to me how you have derived that Bush's executive actions won't set any sort of legal precedence(s)?
Unitary executive theory -Wiki
The big immigration protests today has shown me the utter dichotomy of our times. (snip)
So show me something that this downard spiral is over and maybe I wouldn't be so satirical.
Originally posted by Regenmacher
Originally posted by Jaryn
[I'll finish reading this whole thread in a few minutes, but for right now, I felt I had to stop and say:
I disagree completely with Agent47's viewpoint, but how much he has posted has nothing to do with whether his opinions/statements are valid or not! To try to argue against someone using this viewpoint is ridiculous and makes you seem petty and childish.
Talk is cheap
Direct experience is the master teacher. Don't have any experience, then don't expect me to consider your prose as relevant compared to those who have actually took the time and effort to walk the talk. Same reasoning goes into job positions, experience counts.
Children rattle off at the top of their heads and the world has plenty of inexperienced blowhards, so maybe you need to think about your ridiculous, petty and childish response that is absent of experience too.
en.wikipedia.org...