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Explosive Residue Found On Failed Levee Debris

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posted on Sep, 11 2005 @ 10:33 PM
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This is the article I found on the Hal Turner Show website...

Hal Turner Show

This was timestamped for Sept. 9th, 2005



New Orleans, LA -- Divers inspecting the ruptured levee walls surrounding New Orleans found something that piqued their interest: Burn marks on underwater debris chunks from the broken levee wall! One diver, a member of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, saw the burn marks and knew immediately what caused them. He secreted a small chunk of the cement inside his diving suit and later arranged for it to be sent to trusted military friends at a The U.S. Army Forensic Laboratory at Fort Gillem, Georgia for testing. According to well placed sources, a military forensic specialist determined the burn marks on the cement chunks did, in fact, come from high explosives. The source, speaking on condition of anonymity said "We found traces of boron-enhanced fluoronitramino explosives as well as PBXN-111. This would indicate at least two separate types of explosive devices." The levee ruptures in New Orleans did not take place during Hurricane Katrina, but rather a day after the hurricane struck. Several residents of New Orleans and many Emergency Workers reported hearing what sounded like large, muffled explosions from the area of the levee, but those were initially discounted as gas explosions from homes with leaking gas lines.


You wanted evidence...well here it is. My friend's mom is no longer crazy.



posted on Sep, 11 2005 @ 10:46 PM
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This is hardly evidence and the source is a bit much IMHO with headlines such as

This gator just devoured a dead body in the First Presbyterian Church, Gulfport, MS!

FEMA Visits This Site; ENDS FORCED EVACUATIONS!

LOUISIANA DOCTORS ADMIT DELIBERATELY KILLING HOSPITAL, HOSPICE AND NURSING HOME PATIENTS WHO COULDN'T MAKE IT OUT OF THE HURRICANE AREA
Gave them intentional overdoses of morphine until they stopped breathing!

ANOTHER "EVACUEE" RAPES ANOTHER 13 YEAR OLD GIRL
Savage Negro Beast raped mentally challenged girl at Church shelter!

Etc etc etc.

That being said, why would whatever federal agency that blew up the levies use a explosive that is specific to the US Navy? Makes more sence that generic plastic explosives would be used. But being in a humerous mood and I asked my dad (A civil engineer) such exotic material is needed. The levee's woul only require a small amont of explosives could weaken the levee to the point that the water pressure would gradualy wear away the material to the point of failure with little or no way in evidence. When levee's fail it can occur pretty quick and he says it can look like they were blown up.

Also that site you linked to has pirated Valhall story about the FEMA camps lock stock and barrel



posted on Sep, 13 2005 @ 03:03 PM
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I am not a remote viewer but from where I was at the time of this disaster (Sardinia Italy) I knew what had happened like when you just know someone is lying. When Katrina made landfall within two days I had the same impression. The levee was blown. How does a storm come from hundreds of miles away like a bowling ball from hell strike the dead center on the Big Easy?
What will come next Earth quake in California/mini nukes? Wake up people.
That flood plan has been on the board for a long time and they where just waiting for the storm to blame it on. Should have named this one Skull and Bones.



posted on Sep, 13 2005 @ 03:05 PM
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I could fertilize my lawn with stories from that site.....

Hey, maybe they used nukes?



posted on Sep, 13 2005 @ 05:56 PM
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My only news-source is Fox News cable, and I heard this story one time [never repeated]from a seasoned newsperson who was told by a man who lived close to the levees and he swears that 2[floating] barges took out the levee.
Could this have been a cause, are barges strong enough to level the levees? I have tried to find the source of this man's story, to no avail.
Anyone else hear this reason?



posted on Sep, 13 2005 @ 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by FredT
This is hardly evidence and the source is a bit much IMHO with headlines such as

This gator just devoured a dead body in the First Presbyterian Church, Gulfport, MS!

FEMA Visits This Site; ENDS FORCED EVACUATIONS!

Etc etc etc.


Oh you missed todays great headlines

RIOT IN HOUSTON HIGH SCHOOL AS SAVAGES FROM NEW ORLEANS SQUARE OFF WITH HOUSTON STUDENTS
Once again, we see that the type of sub-human beasts coming out of New Orleans can't control themselves.


^^^Same link as original quote had.



Links like those we do not need a sources that is for sure.



posted on Sep, 13 2005 @ 08:58 PM
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Just because it is not reported on CNN, FoxNews, and MSNBC does not mean it did not happen or it is untrue. We must be wary of all media that has political spin. What we must do as responsible citizens is question all the news.



posted on Sep, 13 2005 @ 09:18 PM
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I was going to paste some 'dialogue' from the forum attached to that site, but it wouldn't have made it past the censors, and surely would have caused me to be banned. The site is pure trash, one hateful, bigoted, pure-white, butt nugget heaped on top of another, resulting in..a pile of #e. But it's white #e! So I guess some people'll eat it for that fact alone...

Total..crap. Sub-human droppings even, ZOMBIE POO!


The forums are CHOKED with racial epithets, to the point where you can't read TWO POSTS without feeling like you're attending a Klan rally.

Flush it. If I were the FBI I'd donate two red flags to anyone visiting that site more than once, for more than the one minute required to ascertain its nature.

I repeat. Flush it. Don't grant your patronage to sites of that nature if you don't agree with their ethics. Why give them advertising clout?

The story may be valild, but the source is #.



posted on Sep, 13 2005 @ 10:06 PM
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I don't agree with the ethics of everyone on here and I no one here has the same views. Hence the debates and fighting amongst ourselves. Should we then all leave here? I don't agree with everything the mods and admins say. I would hope they wouldn't want me to. I believe the point of this site is to see both sides and discuss them and come up with our own conclusions. We may not like each others conclusions but that is what makes us Americans or for those in other countries on here "free people".



posted on Sep, 13 2005 @ 11:02 PM
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I'm not going to flame people for spreading this gossup but I will say it hurts the families who have lost loved ones and those who risked their lives to save people and property. We suffered great loss through families and friends living there who know that this disaster was purely circumstances.

"Know the truth and it will set you free! Spread gossup and it will follow you for the rest of your life".



posted on Sep, 13 2005 @ 11:08 PM
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Without being there and witnessing the break or hearing the explosions we can not say what is or not truth. All we can do is listen to all sides and make a personal decision. All sides need to be presented.



posted on Sep, 13 2005 @ 11:08 PM
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This site isn't a public service, it's a privately owned and operated internet community. Racism isn't tolerated. Linking to racist sites isn't tolerated.

Simple as that.

For purposes of discussions on ATS your link was #. Like I said, I can't even copy and paste sections, because it would get me banned. It's HORRIBLE.

Have you read the comments section? Have you seen the slant of the stories? It blames blacks and Jews for every problem this country faces! You think that's a viable viewpoint?

I think that's an agenda driven by hate and violence.

Keep whatever opinion you want, but I think the ATS owners and admin would have a real problem with your post if they followed the link and read the sort of race-baiting hate speech that site popularizes.

Your attempts to justify bigotry by citing free speech is irrelevant to the discussion. We're talking about news. Journalists can't have agendas. If they do, they instantly, POOF, become propagandists. That site is propaganda for White Power Putzes and their drooling minions/hangers-on.

I sincerely hope you aren't either.



posted on Sep, 13 2005 @ 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by Foulques1
When Katrina made landfall within two days I had the same impression. The levee was blown. How does a storm come from hundreds of miles away like a bowling ball from hell strike the dead center on the Big Easy?

The article notes that the demolition of the levy happen after the hurrican hit and devastated the city. As far as how'd it hit 'dead on',. the hurrican was the size of the entire nation of france, and it was really just a matter of time before a 3 and above category hurricane hit New Orleans, which is sinking, like venice, already. its like with pompeii. What were the chances that Vesuvius would erupt that day? Pretty darned low. What were the chances that it'd erupt and destroy the city? Practically 100%. And if new orleans is rebuilt, what are the chances that this will happen all over again? Practically 100%.

Also, the story about how the sample was brought to light is almost certainly made up, this diver hides the sample from everyone around him, and then goes to this forensics lab and they analyse it? And then they don't tell anyone, except some racist (and probably anti-federal for what its worth) website?



GTWill
All we can do is listen to all sides and make a personal decision. All sides need to be presented.

The best we can do is examine the evidence and make a rational conclusion and decisions from that, not merely list to a bunch of stories and then go with what 'rings' true to us.


We must be wary of all media that has political spin.

Er, you're presenting 'news' from a rabidly racist website that's apparently maintained by morons. FOX might suck, but this trash makes it look like the Wall Street Journal or something.


We may not like each others conclusions but that is what makes us Americans or for those in other countries on here "free people".

The drooling idiots that run the site that made up the news that you presented here have nothing to do with making and keeping the US free. They're the scum that are trying to tear it apart.


skippy
Hey, maybe they used nukes?

Everyone knows that it was really a global hawk guided missile that hit the levees. Notice that there are no videos of the hurrican hitting the levees and breaking them? And also notice that water can't melt the levee walls, because the hottest water every gets is below the melting tempurature of steel.




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