Appeals Court Rejects Flynn Bid To Force Judge To End Criminal Case, No Questions Asked

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut
Is it not in wikipedia?

Yes, the Malcom-X quote is mentioned in Wikipedia (I did mention that quote in my post), but there is no mention (that I have found) of a Democratic Party or other anti-Trump person saying it on record.

See for yourself:

By any means necessary
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is clearly a piece of falsely attributed propaganda. An attempt to impugn someone with a lie, which makes everyone who perpetuates it either a knowing liar, or simply an ignorant dupe.

a reply to: chr0naut
Oh
So you just ignore the organization completely?
Typical

www.bamn.com...

As you would be the expert on falsehoods here, I will adhere to the old takes one to know one.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut
Oh
So you just ignore the organization completely?
Typical

www.bamn.com...

As you would be the expert on falsehoods here, I will adhere to the old takes one to know one.

Yes, BAMN are clearly promoting the "by any means necessary" message.

However, since BAMN have opposed both Democratic and Republican governments, and includes the point of not relying on the Democratis or Republicans on the homepage of their official website, it is propagandist and false to accuse by implication the Democrats and other anti-Trump organizations of using a slogan which they have not uttered.

Lumenari wasn't posting about the BAMN organization when she used the phrase. And since Lumenari is pro Trump, and has posted the phrase (probably more than once), should I assume that it is in fact a slogan of the Republican Party?

You do understand how such a weak association does not validate what is clearly a misattribution?

a reply to: chr0naut
Lol
What a liar
From the front page of their site

Trump and Pence Must Go Now By Any Means Necessary!

Yeah that is gop all the way

Once again your fountain of misinformation is exposed.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut
Lol
What a liar
From the front page of their site

Trump and Pence Must Go Now By Any Means Necessary!

Yeah that is gop all the way

Once again your fountain of misinformation is exposed.

Opposition to one does not mean promotion of the other.

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: Sookiechacha

This isnt correct your being misled by someone. What happened was the appeals court said they cant rule on it yet because the judge has not made the decision to accept or deny DOJ recommendations. Here's the kicker the judge has no choice really if DOJ refuses to prosecute they are not even required to explain to the judge why. He could try to force the DOJ to prosecute but if they do not show he will be required by law to dismiss the charges. This is the main reason he doesn't want to make a ruling and was hoping other judges would back him up he knows if DOJ really refuses there's not much he can do.

So, this is the nub of things,
'In its opinion, the D.C. Circuit said that Flynn’s request for an intervention came prematurely, because Sullivan had not yet ruled on the DOJ motion to dismiss Flynn’s case'.
So, yes, Sullivan can continue on in the novel way of investigation of the DOJ, and what there remains is the 'same side' issue...(even though Flynn pleaded guilty in that time) on the part of the DOJ who dropped any charges.
Sullivan may also have a large judicial bank to call on for his part, and so he may not be completely powerless...while this thing has been dragging on.
What Barr did, has done, has made a pigs ear of impartiality of the DOJ...(let's not forget the other Michael currently looking at a wall, and not friendly to the president) while Michael Flynn, (friendly to the president) sniffs the clear air ad nauseam.
Exceptionalism at it's finest/worse, given what both were up to...let's be honest!

The OP at the very least, has given people a conversation, one to talk about for years!

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut
Lol
What a liar
From the front page of their site

Trump and Pence Must Go Now By Any Means Necessary!

Yeah that is gop all the way

Once again your fountain of misinformation is exposed.

Opposition to one does not mean promotion of the other.

No but your lying ass claimed opposition to both.
More upside down bs.
Jog on terd

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut
Lol
What a liar
From the front page of their site

Trump and Pence Must Go Now By Any Means Necessary!

Yeah that is gop all the way

Once again your fountain of misinformation is exposed.

Opposition to one does not mean promotion of the other.

No but your lying ass claimed opposition to both.
More upside down bs.
Jog on terd

Yes, that is exactly what I was saying.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut
Lol
What a liar
From the front page of their site

Trump and Pence Must Go Now By Any Means Necessary!

Yeah that is gop all the way

Once again your fountain of misinformation is exposed.

Opposition to one does not mean promotion of the other.

No but your lying ass claimed opposition to both.
More upside down bs.
Jog on terd

Yes, that is exactly what I was saying.

However, since BAMN have opposed both Democratic and Republican governments

Own it

A 5 year old has more common sense than to spread these easily dispelled lies.

Next you will tell us a consensus of European scientists in collaboration with mordoria academics have determined the moon is really made of green cheese.

Maybe now another "hearing" will expose more Government corruption !! 😎🚬

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut
Lol
What a liar
From the front page of their site

Trump and Pence Must Go Now By Any Means Necessary!

Yeah that is gop all the way

Once again your fountain of misinformation is exposed.

Opposition to one does not mean promotion of the other.

No but your lying ass claimed opposition to both.
More upside down bs.
Jog on terd

Yes, that is exactly what I was saying.

However, since BAMN have opposed both Democratic and Republican governments

Own it

...

Just did. A couple of times.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

In my opinion the general was framed. I don't know all the legal twists, turns and the legalese around general Flynn's case, but I really wish that Trump has the power and flat out pardons him in the right time, before the elections.

Due to the Deep State's destructive work, too many real american patriots are ending up in courts and jails, the latest being Steve Bannon. People need to think for themselves who benefits from all this dirty work and not blindly putting their faith in the rotten "justice" system. At the end of the day it's us, regular folks, that loose.

originally posted by: xuenchen
Maybe now another "hearing" will expose more Government corruption !! 😎🚬

Tuesday, September 29, 2020

YEP...That hearing is today. Flynn's lawyer Sidney Powell and attorneys for the Justice Department confront Judge Sullivan with NEW EVIDENCE.

Armed with bombshell documents suggesting FBI misconduct, lawyers for Michael Flynn on Tuesday will try to persuade a skeptical judge to vacate the former national security adviser's guilty plea for lying and dismiss the charge.

Defense lawyer Sidney Powell will be joined in her request by Justice Department prosecutors, but she must convince U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan that the evidence warrants the dramatic dismissal of a case originally brought by Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team.

Sullivan has solicited his own adversarial advice, ordering a report from a former federal judge in New York that recommended against dismissal on the grounds that DOJ's decision to support dropping the charges was forced by President Trump's badgering.

"In the United States, Presidents do not orchestrate pressure campaigns to get the Justice Department to drop charges against defendants who have pleaded guilty — twice, before two different judges — and whose guilt is obvious," the retired U.S. District Judge John Gleeson wrote recently. "The government's attempt to dress up a politically motivated dismissal that smacks of impropriety as a 'policy judgment,' should be rejected."

But Powell is armed with several new bombshell documents released by DOJ in the last week, including one showing the lead FBI agent in the Flynn case, William Barnett, declared there was never evidence of wrongdoing by the retired general or Trump and the Russia probe was kept open by Mueller simply because his team had a "get Trump" goal.

Barnett's claims came in the form of an interview with DOJ officials in which he revealed FBI agents recommended closing the Flynn case both in November 2016 and again in January 2017 because there was no evidence of wrongdoing or intelligence threats, but their bosses in FBI management overruled them and decided to pursue the interview where Flynn was accused of lying.

One of those supervisors, former Assistant Director William Priestap, kept notes questioning the decision to pursue the Flynn interview. Specifically, his notes questioned whether the FBI's motive was to find the truth in the Russia case or "to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired."

Barnett's testimony suggested there was no evidentiary basis for the interview or the pursuit of Flynn. "Barnett believed the prosecution of Flynn by SCO [special counsel's office] was used as a means to 'get TRUMP,'" according to the recently released interview report.

In addition, the FBI has released text messages showing some of the intelligence analysts who worked the Flynn case were so concerned the FBI was engaging in misconduct that they bought liability insurance fearing they could be sued after their bosses continued to keep the investigation open based on "conspiracy theories."

"We all went and purchased professional liability insurance," one analyst texted on Jan. 10, 2017, just 10 days before Trump took office.

The extraordinary evidence showing the FBI believed there was no reason to prosecute Flynn was belatedly produced years after he had pleaded guilty, and it is likely to be seized upon both by Powell and the federal prosecutors supporting her request for dismissal.

"There was no case against General Flynn," Powell and federal prosecutors wrote in the new joint motion filed last week. "There was no crime. The FBI and the prosecutors knew that. This American hero and his entire family have suffered for four years from public abuse, slander, libel, and all means of defamation at the hands of the very government he pledged his life to defend."

Source: justthenews.com...

FINGERS CROSSED!

a reply to: carewemust

Who under-rights, for such a policy? I've never heard of any 'insurance', that protects an employee from the employer's demands.

originally posted by: SourGrapes
a reply to: carewemust

Who under-rights, for such a policy? I've never heard of such 'insurance'.

www.thehartford.com...

But it won't cover you for intentionally hurting another.

www.youtube.com...

Livestream to listen in on youtibe.

a reply to: carewemust

I think their texts may disqualify them from having a valid claim.

LOL this Judge is a joke