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Originally posted by Al Davison
The only way that could have been remotely possible would be if his disruption were so grossly exaggerated that maybe the truth was that he kicked over one stall of one vendor and ran like crazy.
Then the Jews demanded of him, “What miraculous sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?”
Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”
The Jews replied, “It has taken fortysix years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” But the temple he had spoken of was his body. After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the Scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.
Originally posted by Al Davison
OK, the best source book that I have for this was loaned to me a couple of years ago and has been returned - maybe one of you has this or something similar but, here is what I remember from a very compelling argument.
The Gospel story of Jesus going into the Temple and turning over the tables of the money changers in the Temple is just in no way believable. To begin with, you have to understand the sheer size of the Temple - it was huge! Dimensions given by historians make it to be about the size of a Super Wal-Mart, at least. On top of that, the Temple had it's own elite troops of armed guards on the inside who were backed up by a large contigent of Roman soldiers on the outside. (Don't forget that the high priests of the Temple were so "in bed" with the occupying Roman forces that they were practically a branch of the Romans.) Rome was getting its cut from the take - or, more accurately, Pontius Pilate was.
The idea that Jesus, acting alone and unarmed, was able to get into and out of the Temple and get away with disrupting the commerce in the Temple is just too far-fetched to even consider. The only way that could have been remotely possible would be if his disruption were so grossly exaggerated that maybe the truth was that he kicked over one stall of one vendor and ran like crazy.
The theory is that Jesus went in with an armed band of insurgents and fought a skirmish that probably lasted most of a whole day - maybe more than a single day. In fact, it is hypothesized that this armed band may have actually occupied the outer portions of the Temple for a few days.
OK, what do y'all think? What have you read about this?
I agree, money changers or not, the temple was too sacred to allow holliganism or violence to go unchecked.
Originally posted by Al DavisonThe idea that Jesus, acting alone and unarmed, was able to get into and out of the Temple and get away with disrupting the commerce in the Temple is just too far-fetched to even consider.
Not unless there is more to the story. Such as, he was in the temple to begin with because he was a Jew and a high priest likely preaching in his own temple railing at them for a reason not stated. As a high priest they would call him to council which is what happened.
The only way that could have been remotely possible would be if his disruption were so grossly exaggerated that maybe the truth was that he kicked over one stall of one vendor and ran like crazy.
This too is also possible.
The theory is that Jesus went in with an armed band of insurgents and fought a skirmish that probably lasted most of a whole day - maybe more than a single day. In fact, it is hypothesized that this armed band may have actually occupied the outer portions of the Temple for a few days.
Originally posted by RANT
Man it was awesome, you should have been there.
Originally posted by SomewhereinBetween
he was in the temple to begin with because he was a Jew and a high priest likely preaching in his own temple railing at them for a reason not stated. As a high priest they would call him to council which is what happened.
Only if you believe that only Pharisees were high priests, and if you do, well, I am just not interested in providing your education from the ground up, nor am I here for that. I expect after all those on here, especially those challenging me, come to the table with a modicum of knowledge.
Originally posted by NygdanInteresting. What else supports this jesus as a high preist idea? Would this require that he be a pharisee? I do recall that its often mentioned that he talked with the preists as a boy and was considered a religious prodigy, which doesn't jive, in my understanding, with the rest of the sotry.