Does Middle East Peace Require a Two-State Solution or a Palestinian Defeat?

a reply to: Metallicus

The Palestinians were there long before the Jews bought Isreal,the Jews get away with everything in the middle east,Zionist country nothing good comes from there

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Metallicus

If the Palestinian people have their own land/country, they should be left alone to live life as they choose.

Israel should be left alone to do the same.

It's simple logic.

Deep down, the Palestinians and Jews both believe that all of Israel belongs to them and neither believe in a two state solution. All the money wasted on "negotiating peace" has been nothing but a P.R. or propaganda campaign to make the rest of the world think it's possible, when everyone living there knows it's not. The two are mostly enemies and the Palestinians aren't capable of financially taking care of themselves nor can they be trusted with their own military (not to mention afford one). If the Palestinians were ever capable of mustering up enough of a military to protect themselves, they'd only use it to take over the Jews. You add all of the Muslims in the region who believe it's against their religion to allow a Jewish state to exist in the region in the first place, and it's a no win situation. The only reason Muslims will say that they're open to the idea of a two state solution is so they can build up "Palestine" to eventually take over the Jewish state of Israel anyway. It's all a farce. It's always been a farce. It will continue to always be a farce.

The current Israel is/are the only ones who can be trusted in the region. If or when Muslims are ever capable of overthrowing Israel or the Jews, then they would go back to fighting each other to see which sect of Islam should have control over Jerusalem, the Sunnis or the Shiites. It's bad enough that Muslims want to kill non-converts, but they also want to kill each other to prove which Muslims are worthy for control of the region. The killing will never end no matter what anyone does to change the demographics in the region. The only thing we can do is speed up the process or slow it down with the help of Israel. As long as Israel has the threat of nukes hanging over the entire region's head, the region is somewhat in check.

Only God can and will take care of the situation that is the Middle East.

a reply to: r0xor

Not too far off.

One day in a deep pondering of 666 being the beast, the Antichrist, it came to me that 6 is the number of man and that the three sixes are the sum of the unholy trinity. The beast from the sea is the attendant that advances the one and introduces him to the false prophet that proclaims him to the world.

Based on that sketchy detail and that everyone has to have the mark. I have come to realize that the Antichrist is the singularity event of the perfect AI. That the internet is the sea of man which creates the collective experience from which it learns and grows, which also makes the AI also the beast from the sea to a degree or perhaps the AI programmer that realizes that it has become self aware. The false prophet is the leader that both trusts and proclaims it complete and a perfect being of artificial intelligence. Literally man has became god for creating a life form in his own image.

Thus 666/the Antichrist/the Singularity AI are one in the same. It will be so ingrained that it will take Jesus to defeat/disable it.

originally posted by: Oldtimer2
a reply to: Metallicus

The Palestinians were there long before the Jews bought Isreal,the Jews get away with everything in the middle east,Zionist country nothing good comes from there

The jews had people in the area before ww2 as well. The ottomans charged them the tax on non muslims. Almost all jews came from the surrounding countries in the initial move to where ancient israel was located before the Romans renamed it palestinia when it was occupied as punishment for the uprisings against the Romans.
The palis of today are not the same people from then. The PLO and arafatt themselves confirmed it at various times.

jews will never accept that we are ALL born equal;
Equality is part of civil society, 'jew' only will never work
in a democratic civil society, the only
solution is a two state solution.
However,
jerusalem must be recognized as a global multi-
national-religious state, protected with U.N
observers and security.
Golen must stay as a BUFFER zone over seen by
the U.N.
The days of segregation, water-fountains for whites only,
and segregated seating ect. must end for once and for all.

originally posted by: ToneDeaf
jews will never accept that we are ALL born equal;
Equality is part of civil society, 'jew' only will never work
in a democratic civil society, the only
solution is a two state solution.
However,
jerusalem must be recognized as a global multi-
national-religious state, protected with U.N
observers and security.
Golen must stay as a BUFFER zone over seen by
the U.N.
The days of segregation, water-fountains for whites only,
and segregated seating ect. must end for once and for all.

Gaza WAS overseen by the UN before,but the palestinians coudnt stand that. The Palestinains do nto want a state where anyone is in power over them either. Look at their past overthrows of places they lived before. Golen heights was lost fair and square according to the previous laws of warfare in the armistice between Israel and Syria a spart of their cease fire negotiations. If i read correctly that is.
And I dont think Israel had segregation like you suggest we had in the US did they?