An Alien Structure could be forming in our own backyard

We can see so far into the universe with Hubble, yet we cannot see planets in detail in our own star system.

I figured we can read license plates in our own star system..

a reply to: neoholographic

120 miles in diameter its about an asteroid. the moon its 6000 km in diameter

It was probably captured by one of the gas planets and got into that orbit, will probably crash into one of the gas giants.

a reply to: neoholographic

yep.

yt: The Privileged Planet
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"THE PRIVILEGED PLANET, utilizing stunning computer animation, interviews with leading scientists, and spectacular images of Earth and the cosmos, explores a startling connection between our capacity to survive and our ability to observe and understand the universe. Is this correlation merely a coincidence? Or does it point to a deeper truth about purpose and intelligent design within the cosmos?"

a reply to: neoholographic

What don't you get? He destroyed your entire premise. Thread closed.

Wow did I stumble into the wrong thread. You would think after 5 1/2 years of highschool some of this would make a little bit of sience. Nope, I was lost at SAP and WAP (but that was explained) I did get the part about the duck. Wow I guess the rest of you people keep going to school. Can someone explain it with a crayon please, thanks.

a reply to: Kandinsky

Or great films

It could be a travelling planet. Deep space has probably lots of dead planets that spiralled out of their original system. When they get close to another source of gravity they can get caught. If that is the case; then lets just hope it doesn't screw up the alignment of our current planets.

Many Americans just don't believe that they are being manipulated towards Globalization, or a New World Order. The killings of African Americans and other minorities by police and white supremacist groups isn't coincidental, and is on the depopulation agenda. Minorities are being sacrificed by both Democrats and Republicans, and the same will happen to caucasians once the numbers of minorities are down. There are two evils presently taking place right now. Both Republicans and Democrats are in battle as to who will be the new slave masters for all Americans. Alot of work has been done on the teenage and young adult population who were incarcerated. Incarceration lingo and trends have set it's ugly self up in nearly every facet of society. People have literally been programmed to live by prison codes in society which is slowly destroying large numbers of communities all across the U.S. The Calculators understand what sets the young generation off and is using it to advance violence and killings within communities, with the aid of poverty. In the 1980's, there were the crack, heroin, and other chemical dependent babies born. Many of these same offspring in 2016 has autistic children with traces of crack, heroin, and other things within their bloodstreams. Take for an instance a crack baby. If you inject the crack baby with crack, it will begin to become somewhat normal. The combined chemicals within Americans today, along with the many rituals being performed to consumate evil forces, is one reason why killings is over the top.
And from this New World Order, small businesses is being pushed out. Many were targeted by police and were later made felons. CNN, local news medias, and countless other media sources then put a spin on the "felon" in a way that noone wants to buy or sell to them. The felons are then forced out of business while large Corporations set up what may appear to be small businesses within their places. These newer businesses will play out for a time, and the money from these businesses will not give to their communities. And many courts are tied into these strange conspiracies. African Americans are doing everything within their power to stay afloat. This is why so many believe that Hillary Clinton will save them. (See: H.R.3355 - Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994)
One reason why Donald Trump won't become President of the U.S. is because each and every President was/is linked, by blood, to the Queen of England. Donald Trump isn't linked by blood which is why this so-called sham of a Presidential Campaign is being used to violently kill down the population, poison the population, and set plagues loose on the people. There will be many more police involved killings like the one which set of massive riots in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. www.npr.org... There is a new set of humans within America, and all across the globe, who the Rothschilds are supplanting within communities world-wide. Its very difficult for Americans to understand that they are alien-human hybrids. While so much chaos is occurring within your communities, as pointed out on the Stephen King Movie; "Needful Things", changes are being made within your communities. Once everything is set up on Earth, then the Mars Project, according to the Rothchilds and their 499,000,000 relatives, will fulfill the transition. Not long ago there was a large number of UFO videos presented all across the internet. And many scientists who don’t even bother to look at videos or listen to accounts have used default explanations of a meteors or weather balloons to explain such anomalies. Local news feeds from St. Louis, Pennsylvania, New York, and other locations have been picking up on sightings of shiny unexplained spheres in the sky.

Nearly a handful of people in New York captured a UFO flying in the light of day. www.youtube.com... The video of the UFO is probably the best and clearest UFO footage captured. There are also reports from that this flying object was quite possibly a military black project. He look of the aircraft is unconventional and looks nothing like a plane or even a flying saucer. www.youtube.com... KDKA In Pittsburg reported a mysterious object spotted in the skies over parts of the Pittsburgh area caused quite a stir People reported seeing a shiny, silver object in the sky. The reports were coming from areas west of downtown. There was a similar looking cigar-shaped aircraft seen over Beaverton, Oregon, not long ago. It was spotted by one Roger Clooten of Northwest Ghost Recon, and he was able to snap a quick photo. This now brings us to Proxima Centauri. Some believe that when God showed hell to Jesus and the apostles, he showed them Proxima centauri, a place of fire other than the sun. The Islamic Qur’an describes Proxima Centauri as hell to our earth, a celestial sphere of fire opposing the sun. The Muslim scientists developed a diagram of the universe on the basis of comparative study of astronomy and Islamic cosmology, where Hell is placed around the Earth, consisting of stars and constellations of ancient astronomy. Babylonia, Assyria, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, and Pakistan, all have ancient accounts of Gods who had fortresses or battle stations near opposing stars and planets in space.

Ancient texts from these lands such as the Indian Mahabharata give us accounts of the Gods raging aerial wars in “Vimanas” which can only be described as spaceships designed with intricate detail. The supreme god of aerial warfare anciently was called Baalhazor. Baalhazor along with other alien Gods such as Baalbamoth, and Baalzebub would come down from the air in flying spheres from the fiery stones in the sky. One of these fortresses or battle stations in the heaven is mentioned in the 41st chapter of the book of Ezekiel. There was a city described with a temple that was represented by a face of a man and a lion. The face looked sky ward. There has been speculation that the temple or fortress described in the chapter is very similar to what Richard Hoagland called the face on Mars. In 1997 images of the face and several pyramids were seen in the Cydonia region of mars. Near the so-called face in an area known as, the “fortress.” Some claim that the fortress looked like a base of operations and that now all that is left is a bunch of buried squares and shapes that resemble buildings, maybe even weapons. For the longest time, there were astronomers who would look upon Mars with great interest in the Cydonia region. There it was proposed that a great city similar to what we see in Egypt was there and that near what appears to be Martian pyramids is a “face.” The face of course resembles a man with the mane of a lion.

The Egyptian capital is Cairo, and derives its name from Al Qahira, meaning; “City of Mars.” And the Arabic name for Mars is Lahamu, or Deity of War. Needless to say that in many ancient writings Mars has been called the Fortress, and that Elder Gods of war and creation once lived there. Looking into ancient history especially the prophecies of the Old Testament in the bible, it is recorded that Daniel described a future time where there would be a corrupt government that would espouse barbarism and declare it blessed by divine providence.

Christians call him the Antichrist, and Muslims call him, Dajjal. In the writings of the Book of Daniel in the Bible it speaks of the antichrist calling upon the Lords of Heaven and the God of Fortresses.

“He shall not regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women nor love any god, for he shall magnify himself above all. But in his place he shall honor the god of fortresses, or the Ala Mahozim and he shall honor a god whom his fathers did not know.” —Book of Daniel

According the late Biblical scholar David Flynn, The God of Fortresses is a god from Mars – the war-like extraterrestrial god. The Hebrew word for the, God of Fortresses is Ala Mahozim. In Hebrew, the root word for fortresses is Mahoz (MARS) which means the “place of strength” or “stronghold”. According to biblical prophecy, the highly feared Antichrist pays tribute to this “god” which is the Lord of the Sky and space, Baal. Besides the already established connection with Baal, or his full name in this case, Baalhazor, “Lord of the Fortresses”, there is a curious parallel between this Ala Mahozim and the god Melkart, worshiped in the island kingdom of Tyre. This god was supposedly brought to the island by Astarte after he had fallen from the heavens. His name means, “King of the Fortresses.” When the God of Fortresses is mentioned, there are many interpretations but the prevailing interpretation is that the fortress is the fortress for war and the warrior gods are the Ala Mahozim. They are the gods that come from the sky and anciently were believed to have lived on Mars. When one refers to the Ala Mahozim or the god of fortresses, they may also be referring to human warriors or warlike leaders that declare themselves gods. They all seem to have the same characteristics. Many of them have connections to Mars, Egypt, Sumer Sirius and the constellations Canis and Ursa Major.

Mars was once like earth and ancient inhabitants of the planet escaped a planetary cataclysm. Some went underground, while others settled in other areas of the solar system. Many even believe that some of our ancestors were Martian. The Torah speaks of 974 generations existing before the Creation of Adam by God; these are the peoples that the children of Adam and Eve married. According to Scripture, Adam and Eve had three children, Cain, Able and Seth, who married and had children. Biblical scholars have questioned who did they marry and what families existed simultaneously during the creation story. Some claim that the 974 generations that existed prior to the Torah may have populated India and that there have been texts that not only talk about their remarkable history, but the ancient scrolls also have revealed a connection with the Gods that they describe as powerful, and that used ancient technologies in order to fly through the heavens. It is also interesting to note that these technologies also included very powerful weapons that were capable of causing the entire sky to burn up and that would scorch the earth.

These accounts allegedly date back some 11,000 years. Ancient Sanskrit texts dating back as far as 6000 B.C. describe in detail technologies and warriors of the sky flying chariots of the gods called Vimanas. What if these so-called warriors of the sky moved out into the vast reaches of space and were able to rebuild a fortress and what if they are alive and thriving, and perhaps using the energy from a star like Proxima Centauri in order to build cities and weapons? The Brookings Report, released in the 1960’s, was devised by the U.S. Government to have in place a conspiracy of denial with regards to the possibility that a new space program would discover the possibility of life elsewhere in the universe. This plan, provided by the Brookings Institute, was completed in December of 1960 and pointed out the very real fear of social disintegration if humanity discovered in its cosmic sojourn proof of extra-terrestrial life. The Brookings Report was very clear when it suggested that “Anthropological files contain many examples of societies sure of their place in the universe which have disintegrated when they had to associate with previously unfamiliar societies espousing different societies in different ways.” Needless to say, the guardians of intelligence suggested that if the U.S. space program found evidence of alien life or technology that it would be advisable to withhold that information. Nearly five decades later, much of what the Brookings Institute laid out for the space program still holds and science is still in the act of denial of any intelligent life in space.

Since the Curiosity Rover landed on the surface Mars, there have been a number of curious anomalies being sent back to Earth that have created all sort of buzz on the Internet. Observers have seen sightings; from strange human looking statues on Mars, to strange lights beaming up from the surface and of course various Unidentified Flying Objects that come and go and are recorded. NASA has done its best to explain that what is being seen is some sort of lens flare or pareidolia much like was done at the time that curious Mars watchers saw a face in the Cydonia region of Mars. In an email published by The Virtually Strange Network, “Brookings Report Re-examined,” Keith Woodard writes that the Brookings Report “did raise the possibility of withholding information, but took no position on its advisability. ‘Questions one might wish to answer by such studies,’ intoned the report, ‘would include: how might such information, under what circumstances, be presented to or withheld from the public for what ends? In 2015, there was story which rushed into the mainstream that was immediately seized upon by the independent media about a possible alien mega structure whirling around a distant star. Scientists and astronomers excited about disclosure, or proof of intelligent alien were reporting that it appeared to be the smoking gun for undeniable proof.

Follow-up studies have revealed no signs of alien behavior, but NASA’s Kepler Space Telescope has just spent around 1,600 days observing the star, and things have gotten a lot weirder. The results of these latest observations have been published so other members of the astronomy community can do their best to poke holes in them as the alien technology theory is becoming even more possible than before. Basically what Kepler saw was KIC 8462852, also known as Tabby’s star, dimming at such an incredible rate that it can’t solely be explained by any of the leading hypotheses like comet swarms, or the effects of a warped star. What the new data suggests is that something is going on around the star that astronomers have never seen anywhere in the cosmos before a likely a combination of strange phenomena. In other words, what is happening is more or less, alien, even though they are hesitant to call it that. Why are scientists so reluctant to reveal what could be seen as proof of alien civilizations? Have we now outgrown the cover-ups and lies? Or is there a secret they won’t tell us; maybe dark secrets about an evil heaven? As far back as 2011, astronomers noticed light fluctuations in these constellations and KIC 8462852 was showing the most peculiar light fluctuations of all of the stars. This sparked speculation that possible massive alien structures were circling around the stars, creating the light changes.

This discovery has now generated a controversial theory that what is out there is a Dyson Sphere or a Dyson Swarm. A Dyson sphere is a hypothetical megastructure that completely encompasses a star and hence captures most or all of its power output. The concept was later popularly adopted by Freeman Dyson. Dyson speculated such structures would be the logical consequence of the long-term survival and escalating energy needs of a technological civilization, and proposed that searching for evidence of the existence of such structures might lead to the detection of advanced intelligent extraterrestrial life. The Dyson Sphere is usually illustrated as a huge sphere surrounding a star dark and dense with no light escaping and all the energy turned inward. Dyson’s proposal is better described as a “Dyson Swarm” which is more like a vast amount of small spheres all co-orbiting the star, managing to stay out of each other’s way, and maximizing the amount of solar energy that can be collected from the star.

Dyson Spheres or swarms of spheres may have an ancient component as well. Ancient depictions of wormholes and star gates show gods traveling in flying or winged Spheres similar to what has been described as Nibiru. Anciently, many of these spheres have been called the “Devachan.” The Devachan is also known as the “dwelling of the gods.” It is regarded as the place where most souls go after death where desires are gratified, corresponding to the Christian belief in Heaven. However, Devachan is a temporary, intermediate state of being before the soul’s eventual rebirth into the physical world. The “Devachan” is also mentioned in the Zohar. The Zohar is the foundational work in the literature of Jewish mystical thought known as Kabbalah. Obviously, there are many ancient accounts, found in places like the Bible, the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Torah, the Book of Enoch, the Mahabharata, that document the reality of such beings, and all of the structures on various planets have been covered up in earnest by governments refusing to open up to forbidden histories.

August 12, 2016

a reply to: marksoros

Dude make a thread. Not going to read that if it has little to do with the op.

the Universe is indeed designed to create life, new forms of life are found in the deepest darkest caves that have never seen sunlight, still produce species of life, water is the creator of life and water is everywhere. i recently left a metal tray outside that gathered rainwater and when i looked 2 weeks later, tiny little fish were swimming around in it, and it was just water and rust that was in it, i was baffled although i know very little on how that could have happened.

a reply to: neoholographic

Your misunderstanding the article. They already assume it's similar to Pluto. What makes it interesting is something changed its orbit. That is what they find interesting it means a complex interaction had to take place to cause it's weird orbit. Or this well at that size asteroid somehow was ejected and recaptured by our sun. No one thinks it's artificial that was your asumption

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

And there sure is some kind of amazing "fine tuning" going on with our own solar system, since everything being exactly the way it is, is why we are alive today. That's pretty cool, but it will probably make someone angry..

Exactly. As you say: "...is why WE are alive today".

I emphasized the "we" from your quote because the universe may seem fine tuned to us only because we are the ones who managed to evolve in our universe with our universe's "tuning".

However, in some other universe that may be completely hostile to OUR form of life --- for example, a universe in which the atoms from our universe can't form, but a different kind of atom/matter forms instead --- if that universe had life, it would be very different than the type of life in our universe, and that universe would seem fine tuned to THAT life, but only because only because THEY were the ones who managed to evolve in THEIR universe with THEIR universe's "tuning".

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

Your reply to people here seems like you get a kick out of 'trying' to destroy there post, which is odd. To come to a post only to do that, your execution of writing is also so negative towards others. It seems strange you would do that with your spare time.

Anyhow, I think this is a good post and interesting to look into. Thanks!

a reply to: neoholographic

Actually, I read another source, and what the scientists postulated as one of the most likely scenarios is that this object could have been knocked out by a large perturber hitting Niku into it's strange orbit. They also included other hypothesis including planet 9 as being the source for the weird orbit of this object, although they state most of these hypothesis are problematic. We just don't know enough about this object yet and what caused it to be so "rebellious". For all we know Niku could even be the remnants of a planet hit millions of years ago. Maybe this collision that knocked Niku into it's present orbit also could have caused the asteroid belt.

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Niku orbits on a plane that is tilted 110 degrees from the plane of the rest of the solar system. One theory is that a large object's gravity is influencing Niku, causing it to orbit at an angle to everything else as well as backward. Various theories, like a hidden Super Earth known as Planet Nine, an unseen dwarf star called Nemesis, or an unknown dwarf planet in the Kuiper Belt are all "problematic" when trying to explain the orbit of Niku, according analyses detailed in the arXiv paper. (It was another group of objects with a highly inclined orbit that first led astronomers to propose the possibility of Planet Nine.)

Ultimately, Chen and his fellow astronomers conclude that the "mechanism causing and maintaining this common plane is still unknown." It seems possible that a collision could have sent Niku spiraling off on its own, or that the TNO was captured from another part of the galaxy when it passed close enough to the sun, but whether either of these could explain the object's behavior is still unclear. The team recommends further study, which, given Bannister's excitement about their discovery, is likely to come soon.
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www.popularmechanics.com...

originally posted by: Soylent Green Is People

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
There are plenty of relatively mundane explanations that could explain it. For instance, it could be a minor planet that had been travelling through space and was caught by our sun's gravity. There is nothing, at this point, to suggest it's artificial.

Your assertion that "the universe is fine tuned to produce life" is ridiculous, given the complete and total lack of evidence to support such a conclusion. Such an unfounded statement does, however, serve to illustrate your own personal bias quite nicely.

Some notable geniuses would argue against your statement.

www.pbs.org...

The OP makes a fine point and I agree with it. Perhaps you could articulate an argument against that point that amounts to more than just a few sentences?

As I mentioned before, these scientists are basically saying WE wouldn't be here -- "We" being the type of life that can occur in our universe given the physics of our universe

When professor Sandra Faber in your link says this...

Faber, a professor at the University of California, Santa Cruz, was referring to the idea that there is something uncannily perfect about our universe. The laws of physics and the values of physical constants seem, as Goldilocks said, “just right.” If even one of a host of physical properties of the universe had been different, stars, planets, and galaxies would never have formed. Life would have been all but impossible.

...what she is saying is that life as we understand life, and understand how it works within the physical laws of our universe, needs are universe with physical laws that are "just right" for that life.

However, instead of the universe being OUR universe with OUR physical laws, the universe may have instead been created with other weird physical laws -- maybe a form or matter made of something other than protons, neutrons, and electrons...and/or maybe some weird form of energy that doesn't use photons to carry it, and/or some other value for the force of gravity, or different values for that universe's version of the electromagnetic force -- or maybe some other weird force that we don't have in our universe.

In that other weird universe with those weird physical laws, we could not possibly exist. However, it may be possible for some other life to exist that exploits those physical laws of THAT universe (a type of life that could not possibly exist in our universe), and THEY would be the ones saying "the universe (their universe) is fine tuned for life", because THEIR universe would be "just right" for THEM.

So no. the type of life that OUR universe could possible spawn would be the type of life that could thrive in OUR universe, making it only seem that the universe was fine tuned for it. Instead, it is LIFE that is fine tuned for any universe in which it thrives.

Keep in mind that all that we know of life and the existance there of is within this universe and as far as we can tell so far is this is the only universe in existence. Of course we can't rule out the existence of life in other universes (other dimensions) but the very existance of other universes have yet to be verified. So until you show me proof of life in another universe besides this one or even proof of existence of another universe then well....you get the point.