Australia: Survivor of alleged elite paedophile ring including former prime minister speaks out.

This was in the news 4 days ago but nothing since.

I wonder who the ex PMs were.

Do people believe her? and do you think there is a list of names? I don't know Bill Heffernan.

australianews.ga...

a reply to: lifecitizen

“My experiences were horrific beyond words,” she said. “But the way I’ve been treated for reporting the crimes I witnessed and experienced has been far worse than my original abuse experiences.”

Probably true. If the witness is telling the truth then attack the character.

Textbook.

a reply to: lifecitizen

"Following my initial consultation and the disclosure of my Royal Commission statement, the psychologist wrote in a report to Victim Services that police investigated me for murdering the relative who abused me as a child — my step-grandfather and Nazi war criminal Peter Holowczak. (This paedophile actually committed suicide in Sydney whilst I was residing in Brisbane.) The psychologist’s bizarre allegation contradicted everything I said during our initial meeting, plus the content of the Royal Commission statement I had shared. My subsequent complaint resulted in the psychologist appearing before a professional conduct panel.

NSW Victim Services subsequently approved a replacement psychologist.

Soon after commencing therapy with me, Nerida Saunders was allegedly stalked by thugs who followed her home one night from her clinic to her remote property and circled her car. Saunders consequently provided a formal witness statement about the incident to Detective Terry Frost of the Tweed Heads police. The same men simultaneously stalked my two friends who also reported their experiences to police. The thugs then tailgated me to my daughter’s primary school, but I cut their car off and photographed its number plate." independentaustralia.net...

Stalking, aggressive vehicle games, crooked professionals. Sounds familiar.

Everyone involved who drives should improve their driving skills. www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: lifecitizen

I have endured decades of the types of incidents I describe here, including pet killings, attacks on my family and bizarre mistreatment from health professionals. I have experienced random, unprovoked attacks from complete strangers, an undesirable element within the police force and violent neighbours who suddenly migrate from significant childhood abuse locations. To the uninformed, these events appear to be mere coincidences or the result of something I must have done wrong. But to those with knowledge and experience, this is a recognisable pattern — the modus operandi of a powerful, well-funded child trafficking ring with a vested interest in silencing witnesses like me.

independentaustralia.net...

They try to drive you mad then say "Look! He/she is mad!"

a reply to: Kester

oh.

I forgot about Kidman.

Thanks for the link.

a reply to: lifecitizen

i thought it was well known people of power do these things on a regular basis, the royal family just to name a one.



long video gets weird but delves into royal familey and there f'd up nature

a reply to: lifecitizen

These are high risk allogations to make for the woman concerned. She could find herself assulated in a 'unknown home invasion' meet with a nasty accident on the road, get sued by somebody over an invented wrong etc.

If her allegations are not correct she will be in disgrace for life and sued into metal brakdown or life long poverty.

If her allegations are true she still faces alll the above because all the big guns will come out blazing attacking her integrity. Dont forget some of the alledged perps are members of the judiciary. The PM have very powerful friends in very high places.

The only chance this woman has if here allegations are true, AND I AM NOT SUGGESTING THEY ARE NOT TRUE, is that the former PMs are of the political party not of the current party in power.

Even then, both sides of politics are owned and controlled by the same people. Both the two main political parties are just the two wings of the same bird of prey, so lets not forget that all politicans are members of the same big peoples club.

I suggest that woman has sought the advice of many people before coming out and coming out has wegihed very healily on her mind for a long time.

So, in view of all these issues, why would she lie? Attention seeker does not cut it at this level as she is likly to know that mental health is a stake and perhaps even her life is at stake.

What will the govt do????????

If the perps are from another party other than the govt, will the govt make one hell of a noise about this and milk it for all its worth adn perhaps find an excuse for an early election to capialise on the publicity.

What if the perps are of the same party? What is the likelyhood of a delay, delay, delay, delay cover up, cover up cover up until they get unelected and then they bring it out into the open to get it dealth with before the next election after that?

Will both factions visibily close up and delay, delay, delay, delay, delay, delay, delay, delay, cover up, cover up, cover up, cover up, cover up cover until its consigned to history and the ex PM die of old age.

What about the media, might they simply put a '30 year embargo' on it and kill the story until its just all to late to matter.

what do you think?

originally posted by: Azureblue
a reply to: lifecitizen

These are high risk allogations to make for the woman concerned. She could find herself assulated in a 'unknown home invasion' meet with a nasty accident on the road, get sued by somebody over an invented wrong etc.

If her allegations are not correct she will be in disgrace for life and sued into metal brakdown or life long poverty.

If her allegations are true she still faces alll the above because all the big guns will come out blazing attacking her integrity. Dont forget some of the alledged perps are members of the judiciary. The PM have very powerful friends in very high places.

The only chance this woman has if here allegations are true, AND I AM NOT SUGGESTING THEY ARE NOT TRUE, is that the former PMs are of the political party not of the current party in power.

Even then, both sides of politics are owned and controlled by the same people. Both the two main political parties are just the two wings of the same bird of prey, so lets not forget that all politicans are members of the same big peoples club.

I suggest that woman has sought the advice of many people before coming out and coming out has wegihed very healily on her mind for a long time.

So, in view of all these issues, why would she lie? Attention seeker does not cut it at this level as she is likly to know that mental health is a stake and perhaps even her life is at stake.

What will the govt do????????

If the perps are from another party other than the govt, will the govt make one hell of a noise about this and milk it for all its worth adn perhaps find an excuse for an early election to capialise on the publicity.

What if the perps are of the same party? What is the likelyhood of a delay, delay, delay, delay cover up, cover up cover up until they get unelected and then they bring it out into the open to get it dealth with before the next election after that?

Will both factions visibily close up and delay, delay, delay, delay, delay, delay, delay, delay, cover up, cover up, cover up, cover up, cover up cover until its consigned to history and the ex PM die of old age.

What about the media, might they simply put a '30 year embargo' on it and kill the story until its just all to late to matter.

what do you think?

I think it's on the internet now and we should make a huge fuss about it. Cut out the government and media all together and make it an issue.

I absolutely believe her. It is down right terrifying to know how many #ing people are into this sick #. What's even more terrifying is the number that we don't even know. I read something a few weeks ago about an undercover reporter who infiltrated the deep web

Here are a few of the findings....

"#5. The Dark Web Has A Whole Pedophile “Community” Child pornographers have their own Wikipedia, which is accessible through Tor, named “Hard Candy”. There is also a discussion forum called 3DBoys, which is full of erotic art; however, there isn’t any actual porn on 3DBoys. There is also a site called 7axxn, essentially the Mos Eisley Cantina for child pornographers. Since its membership was heavily restricted, the only way to get into 7axxn was to get an invitation from a current member and gaining their trust would require breaking the law. This whole “incriminate yourself to get inside” attitude was common among pedophiles of The Deep Web. Pam got lucky though; someone invited her on the third day and she was in. The further in she got, the more terrifying the implications of her research became.
#4. There Are “Child Lovers” And Then There Are “Child Molesters” 7axxn is a community of over 90,000 registered users, filled with gigabyte after gigabyte of child pornography. Most users are just there for the porn, but hundreds of them also contribute to a lively set of discussion forums. There are even polls, breaking down the popularity of things such as “Hurtcore”, which is the charming shorthand term for pornography featuring the violent physical abuse of children. Within the “community” there are people who are sexually assaulting victims who were incapable of giving consent (real rape), and those who are having ‘mutual’ sexual relationships with children (real sex)."

www.disclose.tv...

a reply to: HawkeyeNation

You are absolutely correct about how terrible the deep web is.

Having looked into what the deep web is, I found it is mostly a hub for sick pedophiles as you stated, it's absolutely disgusting and put my mind in a bad place for a few days.

Of course I brought it upon myself but I can't help but want to bring these sick people to light.

As it stands right now the deep web is a sanctuary for these types of people; and who is doing anything to find out who they are or hold them responsible ?

a reply to: threeeyesopen
Truthfully, the web IS the world and the world IS the web. Just as there are dark and nasty places in the world there are dark and nasty places on the web. That is life, you can't change it, I can't change it, But it does not make it right. It's up to the authorities to chase and catch the evil doers.
Without any judgement on the lady in question, I find it strange that she is the only one to come forward. If it was a ring that means multiple victims so why only one?

a reply to: lifecitizen

GOOD for this Woman and the others who are coming forward, despite being threatened and harmed already.

I truly hope these injustices aren't swept under the rug like many other important issues.

These sick bastards have something coming to them... I only hope some justice comes of all this....

a reply to: DOCHOLIDAZE1

I guess I didnt think our PMs were involved in anything like this. I've heard about the royal family. I met an English lady years ago who used to work at the palace and she said it was common knowledge amongst the workers that Prince Phillip used to like wearing nappies and being treated like a baby.
Sorry for not watching your link, I dont believe anyone in the royal family is the anti christ.

a reply to: crayzeed

She said there were thousands of other kids involved. Maybe some more will come forward.

a reply to: FamCore

Its not looking good. Nothing at all in the media about it besides a couple of news outlets running the story on the day.

a reply to: Azureblue

She could have a mental illness and be attention seeking? I don't know. But Im giving her the benefit of the doubt.

This happened 40 years ago, and Gough was PM in 1975. I will never believe this about Gough. But she did say ex PMs and he is an ex PM now but she probably meant then.

I dont think it matters which party- either way it will be covered up and her character probably destroyed like Rockintitz pointed out.

a reply to: lifecitizen

nor do I,but i watched anyway. and the reason i linked it is because of all the other info pertaining to the royal familey that isnt prophecy based. if you get a chance i suggest watching and just fast foward through the bible stuff which to my recollection is 15 20 min towards the end and maybe a couple blurbs here and there within

actually i watched because i wanted to be entertained by bible prophecy but ended up learning alot

a reply to: DOCHOLIDAZE1

I dont want to be entertained by biblical prophecy! Its a crock.

But Ill take a quick look just to be sociable. lol.