Hiroshima marks 70 years since atomic bombing with call to end "nuclear evil."

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: Darkblade71

What scares me is what happens when the US develop the next step in super weaponry, who will they test that on?

The same place they tested the nukes: the desert of the American southwest.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't tests, do not devalue anyone involved in the events that day on either side by suggesting that it was a weapons test.

While you're correct, there is no doubt that the US was entirely unaware of what impact it would have on the nation, and the population immediately surrounding those impact sites. They had whole teams in there monitoring the injuries and deaths from radiation poisoning, and they attempted to deny that there was any radiation poisoning too.

They might not have been tests, but the US government certainly did absolutely treat the victims as test subjects after the event.

a reply to: eNumbra

Oh they were tests alright!

The US wanted to see what their doomsday weapons would do to people and infrastructure. That's the whole reason they dropped them on the Japanese!

It's not that they haven't done similar before!

In the 1940's the US tested what the effects of Mustard Gas would be on their own soldiers! They sprayed Diseases and Bacterial Pathogens over various cities in the US as tests where many people died and suffered for decades.

They have done some monstrous things to their own people for testing Chemical Weapons.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were tests!

originally posted by: Nova937
a reply to: eNumbra
That's the whole reason they dropped them on the Japanese!

Open a history book.

a reply to: eNumbra

History???

In May of 1945, the architects of postwar strategy, or, as they liked to call themselves, the "Masters of the Universe", gathered in San Francisco at the plush Palace Hotel to write the Charter for the United Nations. Several of the principals retired for a private meeting in the exclusive Garden Room.

The head of the United States delegation had called this secret meeting with his top aide, Alger Hiss, representing the president of the United States and the Soviet KGB; John Foster Dulles, of the Wall Street law firm of Sullivan and Cromwell, whose mentor, William Nelson Cromwell, had been called a "professional revolutionary" on the floor of Congress; and W. Averill Harriman, plenipotentiary extraordinary, who had spent the last two years in Moscow directing Stalin's war for survival.

These four men represented the awesome power of the American Republic in world affairs, yet of the four, only Secretary of State Edward Stettinius Jr., had a position authorized by the Constitution. Stettinius called the meeting to order to discuss an urgent matter; the Japanese were already privately suing for peace, which presented a grave crisis.

The atomic bomb would not be ready for several more months.
"We have already lost Germany," Stettinius said. "If Japan bows out, we will not have a live population on which to test the bomb."
"But, Mr. Secretary," said Alger Hiss, "no one can ignore the terrible power of this weapon."
"Nevertheless," said Stettinius, "our entire postwar program depends on terrifying the world with the atomic bomb."
"To accomplish that goal," said John Foster Dulles, "you will need a very good tally. I should say a million."
"Yes," replied Stettinius, "we are hoping for a million tally in Japan. But if they surrender, we won't have anything."
"Then you have to keep them in the war until the bomb is ready," said John Foster Dulles.
"That is no problem. Unconditional surrender."
"They won't agree to that," said Stettinius. "They are sworn to protect the Emperor."
"Exactly," said John Foster Dulles. "Keep Japan in the war another three months, and we can use the bomb on their cities; we will end this war with the naked fear of all the peoples of the world, who will then bow to our will."

Which history do you want? The real history or the manipulated one?

Let's see who these guys are.

Edward Stettinius Jr. was the son of a J.P. Morgan partner who had been the world's largest munitions dealer in the First World War. He had been named by J.P. Morgan to oversee all purchases of munitions by both France and England in the United States throughout the war.

John Foster Dulles was also an accomplished warmonger. In 1933, he and his brother Allen had rushed to Cologne to meet with Adolf Hitler and guaranteed him the funds to maintain the Nazi regime. The Dulles brothers were representing their clients, Kuhn Loeb Co., and the Rothschilds.

Alger Hiss was the golden prince of the communist elite in the united States. When he was chosen as head of the prestigious Carnegie Endowment for International Peace after World War II, his nomination was seconded by John Foster Dulles. Hiss was later sent to prison for perjury for lying about his exploits as a Soviet espionage agent.

This secret meeting in the Garden Room was actually the first military strategy session of the United Nations, because it was dedicated to its mission of exploding the world's first atomic weapon on a living population. It also forecast the entire strategy of the Cold War, which lasted forty-three years, cost American taxpayers five trillion dollars, and accomplished exactly nothing, as it was intended to do.

Here's the link to all this where you will get more details of who said what and when.

The Atomic Bomb - Why Hiroshima Was Destroyed

a reply to: Rocker2013

I am sorry you disagree but Its not a ridiculous thing to claim, its just common sense.

Super Powers don't declare all out war with each other because the BOMB is a deterrent.

As for Japan, If the bomb wasn't dropped a lot more life's would of been lost on both sides, that's for certain.

originally posted by: Darkblade71
It was truly a day that changed the world.

I hope it is never forgotten, and never repeated.
Do a youtube search for Hiroshima documentaries, there are many really good ones out there,
way to many to post here.

Atomic bombs were terrible weapons, and nuclear bombs are even worse,
but we have them, so we should never forget what they do or those who died in order to slap the world out of WW2.
The bombs were a wake up call to the entire world,
and everything changed after.

Sorry but what way did it change the world ?
The ones who dropped the bomb are in countless wars or invasions around the world.
They have bases in countries all over the place.

I don`t get why people seem to think that it was the right thing to do in wiping out all of those civilians.
If it had been Korea or Russia dropping a couple of nukes in Europe and killing millions, would people feel the same ?

This thread should be about the atrocity of what happened to those innocent people and not the glorification of the sickening act of what was carried out.
I`m not accusing you for glorifying this act but in what way did it change the world ?