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In D0, the sum of all the correlated counts will not show interference. If all the photons that arrive at D0 were to be plotted on one graph, one would see only a bright central band.
The total pattern of signal photons at the primary detector never shows interference (see Fig. 5), so it is not possible to deduce what will happen to the idler photons by observing the signal photons alone. The delayed choice quantum eraser does not communicate information in a retro-causal manner because it takes another signal, one which must arrive via a process that can go no faster than the speed of light, to sort the superimposed data in the signal photons into four streams that reflect the states of the idler photons at their four distinct detection screens.
There's no evidence that consciousness emerges from the material brain. That's strictly conjecture.
originally posted by: BattleStarGal
So can we essentially alter human history just by thinking about a past event?
originally posted by: dragonridr
The observer has no magical power on the universe its the act of the observation that causes the effect. Doesnt even require the observation to be sentient could be a computer taking readings or a light flashing. Its the fact when you measure the particles your changing the experiment itself. The particles arent changing magically because of the observation.
originally posted by: Cuervo
originally posted by: dragonridr
The observer has no magical power on the universe its the act of the observation that causes the effect. Doesnt even require the observation to be sentient could be a computer taking readings or a light flashing. Its the fact when you measure the particles your changing the experiment itself. The particles arent changing magically because of the observation.
Then how do you explain the experiment noted at the end of the video?
Here's a link to the actual documentation - here
The recorded information wasn't truly "recorded" until it was known.
In the real world of quantum physics, no elementary phenomenon is a phenomenon until it is a recorded phenomenon.
The universe does not exist 'out there,' independent of us. We are inescapably involved in bringing about that which appears to be happening. We are not only observers. We are participators. In some strange sense, this is a participatory universe. Physics is no longer satisfied with insights only into particles, fields of force, into geometry, or even into time and space. Today we demand of physics some understanding of existence itself.
John Archibald Wheeler (July 9, 1911 – April 13, 2008) was an American theoretical physicist who was largely responsible for reviving interest in general relativity in the United States after World War II. Wheeler also worked with Niels Bohr in explaining the basic principles behind nuclear fission. One of the later collaborators of Albert Einstein, he tried to achieve Einstein's vision of a unified field theory. He is also known for popularizing the term black hole, and for coining the terms quantum foam, and wormhole, and the phrase "it from bit." For most of his career, Wheeler was a professor at Princeton University, and was influential in mentoring a generation of physicists who made notable contributions to quantum mechanics and gravitation.
originally posted by: neoholographic
a reply to: dragonridr
Sad but typical.
Why can't a skeptic come into a thread and debate the issue instead of trying to use words that nobody talked about? Nobody said anything about "magical powers" or particles "changing magically." This just shows that you can't debate the issue so you have to try and debate against "magical power" instead of just debating quantum mechanics.
Even if you try to measure which slit, you can't if there's no possibility of conscious observer knowing which path information.
Like I said, people want to claim that consciousness has nothing to do with quantum mechanics when they don't even know what consciousness is.
How can you even say that the particle even has a history without a conscious observer knowing which path information?
John Wheeler, who came up with the thought experiment about the delayed choice experiment said this:
In the real world of quantum physics, no elementary phenomenon is a phenomenon until it is a recorded phenomenon.
He talked about a photon being emitted a billion miles away from earth. This photon comes across a dense galaxy or black hole, then it has to go around the left side or the right side of the galaxy. When the photon gets to earth, the history of that photon only comes into existence when a conscious observer registers which path information.
Wheeler said the past has no existence or meaning unless it exists as a record in the present. He also said this:
The universe does not exist 'out there,' independent of us. We are inescapably involved in bringing about that which appears to be happening. We are not only observers. We are participators. In some strange sense, this is a participatory universe. Physics is no longer satisfied with insights only into particles, fields of force, into geometry, or even into time and space. Today we demand of physics some understanding of existence itself.
Here's a little more about Wheeler before the pseudoskeptics try to label him some type of nutjob.
John Archibald Wheeler (July 9, 1911 – April 13, 2008) was an American theoretical physicist who was largely responsible for reviving interest in general relativity in the United States after World War II. Wheeler also worked with Niels Bohr in explaining the basic principles behind nuclear fission. One of the later collaborators of Albert Einstein, he tried to achieve Einstein's vision of a unified field theory. He is also known for popularizing the term black hole, and for coining the terms quantum foam, and wormhole, and the phrase "it from bit." For most of his career, Wheeler was a professor at Princeton University, and was influential in mentoring a generation of physicists who made notable contributions to quantum mechanics and gravitation.
originally posted by: neoholographic
a reply to: dragonridr
Like I said, people want to claim that consciousness has nothing to do with quantum mechanics when they don't even know what consciousness is.