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A triumphant President Barack Obama declared Tuesday his signature medical insurance overhaul a success, saying it has made America's health care system 'a lot better' in a Rose Garden press conference. But buried in the 7.1 million enrollments he announced in a heavily staged appearance is a more unsettling reality. Numbers from a RAND Corporation study that has been kept under wraps suggest that barely 858,000 previously uninsured Americans – nowhere near 7.1 million – have paid for new policies and joined the ranks of the insured by Monday night. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... -questions-remain-whos-signing-up.html#ixzz2xjif0EKY Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
Over 6 million people LOOKED at our website
If you apply that math to the RAND figures, you get this: of the people who have paid their first month’s premium on the Obamacare exchanges, and are thereby enrolled in coverage, 76 percent were previously insured, and 24 percent were previously uninsured. Two caveats. First, we know little about RAND’s survey methodology at this time; we’ll have to see the actual study to see the details of what they did. Second, we don’t know how many previously uninsured people signed up for off-exchange coverage, above and beyond the normal rate of churn that this market would traditionally see. CBO predicted nearly all exchange enrollees would be previously uninsured What’s important to remember is that this is not how Obamacare was supposed to work. The Congressional Budget Office, in its original estimates, predicted that the vast majority of the people eligible for subsidies on the exchanges would be previously uninsured individuals.
I guess I have to pay the $100 monthly fine out of my tax return, which is BS.
The unpublished RAND study – only the Los Angeles Times has seen it – found that just 23 per cent of new enrollees had no insurance before signing up. And of those newly insured Americans, just 53 per cent have paid their first month's premiums.
beezzer
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Oh wow.
How awkward. (lolz)
Of course expect the usual suspects to debunk this.
"The administration numbers are the correct numbers because the administration says those numbers are correct and the press reported those numbers and the press doesn't lie so if the press reports that the administrations numbers are correct because the administration says they are, then that's the number."
LDragonFire
reply to post by butcherguy
Link to the RAND study?
oh from the op "The unpublished RAND study" another obamacare hoax maybe?
The unpublished RAND study – only the Los Angeles Times has seen it – found that just 23 per cent of new enrollees had no insurance before signing up. And of those newly insured Americans, just 53 per cent have paid their first month's premiums.
From the provided link in op 53 % is much more that 800k is it not?edit on 2-4-2014 by LDragonFire because: (no reason given)
butcherguy
beezzer
reply to post by butcherguy
Oh wow.
How awkward. (lolz)
Of course expect the usual suspects to debunk this.
"The administration numbers are the correct numbers because the administration says those numbers are correct and the press reported those numbers and the press doesn't lie so if the press reports that the administrations numbers are correct because the administration says they are, then that's the number."
I got one for Obama...
Mr. President, if you like your numbers you can keep you numbers.... you can stick them too!
LDragonFire
reply to post by butcherguy
Link to the RAND study?
oh from the op "The unpublished RAND study" another obamacare hoax maybe?
The unpublished RAND study – only the Los Angeles Times has seen it – found that just 23 per cent of new enrollees had no insurance before signing up. And of those newly insured Americans, just 53 per cent have paid their first month's premiums.
From the provided link in op 53 % is much more that 800k is it not?edit on 2-4-2014 by LDragonFire because: (no reason given)
The unpublished RAND study – only the Los Angeles Times has seen it – found that just 23 per cent of new enrollees had no insurance before signing up.
And of those newly insured Americans, just 53 per cent have paid their first month's premiums.
If those numbers hold, the actual net gain of paid policies among Americans who lacked medical insurance in the pre-Obamacare days would be just 858,298.
LDragonFire
Here is the link to the RAND Corporation let me know if you find it??
RAND Corp....