British TV Presenter Refuses To Use Guest's Preferred Pronouns

originally posted by: Consvoli

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: Halfswede

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Halfswede
Not only is it incorrect, . .

It's actually not incorrect or a new fad.

From as early as the 14th century to the modern era, singular they/them pronouns have signified a gender-neutral identity that defies gender stereotyping.

The commonly used nonbinary pronoun, singular “they,” could likely be the English language’s oldest gender-neutral pronoun. With constant references throughout history, literature and spoken English, the use of they/them pronouns is far from new.

reporter.rit.edu...

Whoever wrote that is being willfully obtuse. Of course the word "They" has been used in the singular for eons.
Ex: "I was watching this person blow glass, and they made a really cool vase." etc. etc.,

but the use of "They" to mean trans or non-binary or whatever is entirely new. Them citing Canterbury tales as proof just shows how little grasp they (see totally organic) have of the language. Not one case in Canterbury tales is referring to nonbinary use.

You should not be so easily duped. It is incorrect.

Wow, yep, what a pile of wet steamy 💩. Anyone that believes that crap has serious mental issues of their own. All part of the brainwashing and dumbing down of society I suppose. I feel dumber for having read it.

Didn't you know that by the term they/them we mean trans or non-binary? What did you learn in school?

🤡

Growing up I learned a “trans” or “tranny” was a transmission. I’d never say I pulled a trans in today’s world 😳

originally posted by: Consvoli

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: malte86

originally posted by: nugget1
The whole LGBTQWERTY movement is a politically motivated load of crap. My son is trans; he and every one of his 'other than' friends absolutely loathe the entire agenda. They just want to live their lives peacefully, without a bunch of controversial attention that all too often ends in violence.

Take a look back on the last few presidencies. Promoting issues to get people focused on fighting each other has only benefitted the government and swamp critters that feed off of our division. You can see which administrations have gone out of their way to split the population into hate-filled groups, and actually create and fund many of them.

Keep in mind nothing political happens by accident; it was all planned well in advance. Woe be to any non-career politician that trys to break the cycle and free the people.

This movement exists solely because the Internet exists. Its Zeitgeist, has nothing or little to do with politics, its more a society thing i guess.

The internet just took it to another level. People were far more docile before the internet because very few realized they were being played. The internet created a wakening that required counter-measures by our overlords, who have always used division to continue their subversion and control.

And who are our overlords?

Do you think it's citizens that control the government or the goverbnment controls citizens?
I see you're new here. I suggest catching up by reading threads on Soros, WEF, Klaus Schwab, Davos, etc.

originally posted by: Consvoli

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

TalkTV is a Right Wing TV channel and Julia Hartley-Brewer is notoriously outspoken on these issues

a reply to: gortex

Those evil nasty right wingers, to think referring to a women as she/her....the gall. What's next referring to a man as him/he. Just unbelievable. What should we do?
The horror. Its just not right.
Sorry, I couldn't resist...nevermind....carry on.

I said in one of my posts this isn't a right or left wing issue but it has become one, intentionally.

You are right, it's not right or left- conservative or liberal it is a way to destroy the family nucleus. This is a way to end western civilization as we know it and replace it...slowly...with a combination of communism, facism and socialism. This is a brand new kind of deal that is being pushed upon the world and America, which was once a beacon for opportunity and freedom has become the target for those who are leading this coup on western civilization. The American dream has been replaced with a nightmare, a new world order that is the antithesis of what the American dream represented.

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: Consvoli

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: malte86

originally posted by: nugget1
The whole LGBTQWERTY movement is a politically motivated load of crap. My son is trans; he and every one of his 'other than' friends absolutely loathe the entire agenda. They just want to live their lives peacefully, without a bunch of controversial attention that all too often ends in violence.

Take a look back on the last few presidencies. Promoting issues to get people focused on fighting each other has only benefitted the government and swamp critters that feed off of our division. You can see which administrations have gone out of their way to split the population into hate-filled groups, and actually create and fund many of them.

Keep in mind nothing political happens by accident; it was all planned well in advance. Woe be to any non-career politician that trys to break the cycle and free the people.

This movement exists solely because the Internet exists. Its Zeitgeist, has nothing or little to do with politics, its more a society thing i guess.

The internet just took it to another level. People were far more docile before the internet because very few realized they were being played. The internet created a wakening that required counter-measures by our overlords, who have always used division to continue their subversion and control.

And who are our overlords?

Do you think it's citizens that control the government or the goverbnment controls citizens?
I see you're new here. I suggest catching up by reading threads on Soros, WEF, Klaus Schwab, Davos, etc.

Do they really have an influence on us and do they control us?

a reply to: Consvoli

Yeah, forcing people to use the cognitively dissonant pronoun really brings out the adversary in everyone.

I don't think it matters WHAT EXACTLY it is, if you force a person against their will and to uphold an ideology they DON'T WANT TO (for whatever reason): it will cause transgressive and oppositional behavior. The more status quo woke gets, the more those most likely to see it as ridiculous will push back.

It's a total eye for an eye response.

If Woke operates like a The Godly dictate this right-wing host is throwing down a flaming sword by not acknowledging their authority.

She refused to call what she deems an obvious female by a term she felt was being forced upon her to use. She likely brought on this person just to deadname her and do that. I'm sorry, "bring them on," I try to be open-minded but those pronouns are ingrained, and not representative of unconscious bias... as far as I'm aware of.

originally posted by: Consvoli

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: Consvoli

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: malte86

originally posted by: nugget1
The whole LGBTQWERTY movement is a politically motivated load of crap. My son is trans; he and every one of his 'other than' friends absolutely loathe the entire agenda. They just want to live their lives peacefully, without a bunch of controversial attention that all too often ends in violence.

Take a look back on the last few presidencies. Promoting issues to get people focused on fighting each other has only benefitted the government and swamp critters that feed off of our division. You can see which administrations have gone out of their way to split the population into hate-filled groups, and actually create and fund many of them.

Keep in mind nothing political happens by accident; it was all planned well in advance. Woe be to any non-career politician that trys to break the cycle and free the people.

This movement exists solely because the Internet exists. Its Zeitgeist, has nothing or little to do with politics, its more a society thing i guess.

The internet just took it to another level. People were far more docile before the internet because very few realized they were being played. The internet created a wakening that required counter-measures by our overlords, who have always used division to continue their subversion and control.

And who are our overlords?

Do you think it's citizens that control the government or the goverbnment controls citizens?
I see you're new here. I suggest catching up by reading threads on Soros, WEF, Klaus Schwab, Davos, etc.

Do they really have an influence on us and do they control us?

Do you ever watch the evening news? You should; you'll see voting age youth protesting all over the place for subjects they don't have any personal knowledge of, just what their teachers tell them. They will be the ones running this country soon, sans any ability for critical thinking or understanding every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

It's been fun, but it seems that you want someone to argue with just for the sake of arguing, or maybe you're one of the indoctrinated youth. IDK;DC I'll bid you good evening and let you seek out another player.

I learnd the kings english and grammar at school.
(ok I am not good at it!)
If he/she/it asks me to call them silly things or make up stupid titles.
I am Not bound by any thing to Make me say it.
they can by law chandge there name.
but even then I am not bound by law to use it.

or did they make new speech laws???
is he/she now Hate speech???

originally posted by: Scratchpost
I learnd the kings english and grammar at school.
(ok I am not good at it!)
If he/she/it asks me to call them silly things or make up stupid titles.
I am Not bound by any thing to Make me say it.
they can by law chandge there name.
but even then I am not bound by law to use it.

or did they make new speech laws???
is he/she now Hate speech???

It appears if you don't want to call a female a male this could be some kind of hate speech. I know it's so but the reality of political correctness and gender identity ideology.

Grammar Police ? ? Be careful what you wish for or it
will be #@!&*#


_________________________

originally posted by: ToneD
Grammar Police ? ? Be careful what you wish for or it
will be #@!&*#

_________________________

Soon we will get the grammar and spelling police.

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: Consvoli

Refusing to use someone's preferred pronouns is every bit as rude as refusing to use a person's given name.


Perhaps even more so, since, for most people, their name is "bestowed" upon them by others (parents/guardians/tribe), whereas one's gender identity, especially if that identity is not the one "assigned" at birth, is even more personal, as it is intrinsic to how that person experiences themselves.


I do not understand how being openly rude to each other is somehow to be conflated with "anti-woke"-ness, and therefore some great boon for common sense and community.

I was wondering if you or someone could explain exactly what gender 'they/them' is. Because there is no dictionary in the world that that correlates the words they/them with any gender/species/galaxies etc. before the LBGTQ+++ gender pronoun identifiers became a thing.

Here's the Oxford definition,

used to refer to a person of unspecified gender.
"ask someone if they could help"

So again, what gender is they/them?

And why did the 'think of the most diverse non-applicable pronouns possible race' transition from gender to species, or any other object for that matter? What's up with that? If they want to have different pronouns, make up their own words. They can't just hijack the English language. It'd be heck to be an English teacher right about now.

People have too much time on their hands. And having the internet objectify every whim and fancy someone thinks up doesn't help. The pool is so muddled and full of filth, nothing specific is identifiable or observably important anymore.

All for less than 1% of the loudest, most rude and self absorbed - people? population? theys? thems or thoses? on the planet.

originally posted by: StoutBroux

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: Consvoli

Refusing to use someone's preferred pronouns is every bit as rude as refusing to use a person's given name.


Perhaps even more so, since, for most people, their name is "bestowed" upon them by others (parents/guardians/tribe), whereas one's gender identity, especially if that identity is not the one "assigned" at birth, is even more personal, as it is intrinsic to how that person experiences themselves.


I do not understand how being openly rude to each other is somehow to be conflated with "anti-woke"-ness, and therefore some great boon for common sense and community.

I was wondering if you or someone could explain exactly what gender 'they/them' is. Because there is no dictionary in the world that that correlates the words they/them with any gender/species/galaxies etc. before the LBGTQ+++ gender pronoun identifiers became a thing.

Here's the Oxford definition,

used to refer to a person of unspecified gender.
"ask someone if they could help"

So again, what gender is they/them?

And why did the 'think of the most diverse non-applicable pronouns possible race' transition from gender to species, or any other object for that matter? What's up with that? If they want to have different pronouns, make up their own words. They can't just hijack the English language. It'd be heck to be an English teacher right about now.

People have too much time on their hands. And having the internet objectify every whim and fancy someone thinks up doesn't help. The pool is so muddled and full of filth, nothing specific is identifiable or observably important anymore.

All for less than 1% of the loudest, most rude and self absorbed - people? population? theys? thems or thoses? on the planet.

Non-specific just like we say non-binary...

It's just they/them.
I have come across a conversation (not that long ago) when one was asking the other one what they identity as and the reply was they/them (plural).

How language has been manipulated and hijacked!

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Therealbeverage

So if we have an agreed upon language and people are changing that its ok?

The English language has evolved over the Centuries and continues to evolve , the problem here isn't language changing but people having their paradigms challenged.

Words of the Prophet David Bowie.
"I watch the ripples change their size
But never leave the stream
Of warm impermanence
And so the days float through my eyes
But still the days seem the same
And these children that you spit on
As they try to change their worlds
Are immune to your consultations
They're quite aware of what they're goin' through"

Change will happen whether we like it or not.

Gortex I love your posts they are often based on science. So science me this xx and xy it's simple the other thing that is simple is gender dysphoria happens but in a very very small amount that is unless you exaggerate the numbers! This is mostly based on a fetish of men.

originally posted by: Therealbeverage

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Therealbeverage

So if we have an agreed upon language and people are changing that its ok?

The English language has evolved over the Centuries and continues to evolve , the problem here isn't language changing but people having their paradigms challenged.

Words of the Prophet David Bowie.
"I watch the ripples change their size
But never leave the stream
Of warm impermanence
And so the days float through my eyes
But still the days seem the same
And these children that you spit on
As they try to change their worlds
Are immune to your consultations
They're quite aware of what they're goin' through"

Change will happen whether we like it or not.

Gortex I love your posts they are often based on science. So science me this xx and xy it's simple the other thing that is simple is gender dysphoria happens but in a very very small amount that is unless you exaggerate the numbers! This is mostly based on a fetish of men.

The brain tells you who you are.

Not the wrappings.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Therealbeverage

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Therealbeverage

So if we have an agreed upon language and people are changing that its ok?

The English language has evolved over the Centuries and continues to evolve , the problem here isn't language changing but people having their paradigms challenged.

Words of the Prophet David Bowie.
"I watch the ripples change their size
But never leave the stream
Of warm impermanence
And so the days float through my eyes
But still the days seem the same
And these children that you spit on
As they try to change their worlds
Are immune to your consultations
They're quite aware of what they're goin' through"

Change will happen whether we like it or not.

Gortex I love your posts they are often based on science. So science me this xx and xy it's simple the other thing that is simple is gender dysphoria happens but in a very very small amount that is unless you exaggerate the numbers! This is mostly based on a fetish of men.

The brain tells you who you are.

Not the wrappings.

What's this??

originally posted by: Consvoli

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Therealbeverage

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Therealbeverage

So if we have an agreed upon language and people are changing that its ok?

The English language has evolved over the Centuries and continues to evolve , the problem here isn't language changing but people having their paradigms challenged.

Words of the Prophet David Bowie.
"I watch the ripples change their size
But never leave the stream
Of warm impermanence
And so the days float through my eyes
But still the days seem the same
And these children that you spit on
As they try to change their worlds
Are immune to your consultations
They're quite aware of what they're goin' through"

Change will happen whether we like it or not.

Gortex I love your posts they are often based on science. So science me this xx and xy it's simple the other thing that is simple is gender dysphoria happens but in a very very small amount that is unless you exaggerate the numbers! This is mostly based on a fetish of men.

The brain tells you who you are.

Not the wrappings.

What's this??

It's extremely simple.

You think it needs more?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Consvoli

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Therealbeverage

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Therealbeverage

So if we have an agreed upon language and people are changing that its ok?

The English language has evolved over the Centuries and continues to evolve , the problem here isn't language changing but people having their paradigms challenged.

Words of the Prophet David Bowie.
"I watch the ripples change their size
But never leave the stream
Of warm impermanence
And so the days float through my eyes
But still the days seem the same
And these children that you spit on
As they try to change their worlds
Are immune to your consultations
They're quite aware of what they're goin' through"

Change will happen whether we like it or not.

Gortex I love your posts they are often based on science. So science me this xx and xy it's simple the other thing that is simple is gender dysphoria happens but in a very very small amount that is unless you exaggerate the numbers! This is mostly based on a fetish of men.

The brain tells you who you are.

Not the wrappings.

What's this??

It's extremely simple.

You think it needs more?

You think and you are what you think you are?

a reply to: Annee

Wow, what a stretch of an article and with no substance.

Maybe I missed it, but where are the examples "from as early as the 14th century", of people using they/them pronouns in a gender identity context?

originally posted by: Consvoli

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Consvoli

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Therealbeverage

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Therealbeverage

So if we have an agreed upon language and people are changing that its ok?

The English language has evolved over the Centuries and continues to evolve , the problem here isn't language changing but people having their paradigms challenged.

Words of the Prophet David Bowie.
"I watch the ripples change their size
But never leave the stream
Of warm impermanence
And so the days float through my eyes
But still the days seem the same
And these children that you spit on
As they try to change their worlds
Are immune to your consultations
They're quite aware of what they're goin' through"

Change will happen whether we like it or not.

Gortex I love your posts they are often based on science. So science me this xx and xy it's simple the other thing that is simple is gender dysphoria happens but in a very very small amount that is unless you exaggerate the numbers! This is mostly based on a fetish of men.

The brain tells you who you are.

Not the wrappings.

What's this??

It's extremely simple.

You think it needs more?

You think and you are what you think you are?

More like wired.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Consvoli

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Consvoli

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Therealbeverage

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Therealbeverage

So if we have an agreed upon language and people are changing that its ok?

The English language has evolved over the Centuries and continues to evolve , the problem here isn't language changing but people having their paradigms challenged.

Words of the Prophet David Bowie.
"I watch the ripples change their size
But never leave the stream
Of warm impermanence
And so the days float through my eyes
But still the days seem the same
And these children that you spit on
As they try to change their worlds
Are immune to your consultations
They're quite aware of what they're goin' through"

Change will happen whether we like it or not.

Gortex I love your posts they are often based on science. So science me this xx and xy it's simple the other thing that is simple is gender dysphoria happens but in a very very small amount that is unless you exaggerate the numbers! This is mostly based on a fetish of men.

The brain tells you who you are.

Not the wrappings.

What's this??

It's extremely simple.

You think it needs more?

You think and you are what you think you are?

More like wired.

You are entering the area of mental health issues. If your brain says you are a boy when in reality you are a girl then there must something relating to mental health and possibly a mental disorder.