Is The Window Closing?

I started posting on ATS in 2007, when I finally woke up from my slumber (Bush supporter) and realized that something about the government's version of 9/11 and their response to it, was very, very wrong.

As time went on, I got into the thick of the 9/11 wars here on ATS and the depth of the problems in American society and the American justice system started to reveal themselves to me. I realized that far from being an easily correctable abberation, the miscarriage of justice following 9/11 was just one symptom of a very serious disease in American society.

Fighting the 9/11 fight over time showed me that there were "interested parties" involved in the discussions, shills who were fighting tooth and nail to garble the essential message of 9/11 investigators online. I eventually realized that part of the function of these shills was to act as shock absorbers do on a car, to blunt the impact of the rough road being given the government in online discussion boards and to circumvent if possible any build up of truther momentum.

The seriousness of what was going on became clearer the more I found out about 9/11 and the more I witnessed the tactics of the shills.

I began to realize who I was fighting against, the way that certain intellectuals in 1930s Germany realized who really was coming to power and who they had to escape from, by leaving the country. I realized that I was fighting a very similar fight and very crucially, that there was a closing window of opportunity in which it would be possible to fight.

I knew that the American government had been carrying on a charade of being "nice guys" at least at home, while being ruthless butchers overseas. I knew that the charade would come to an end some day, the window would close and the gloves would come off, in the United States. (Surely not Canada too.)

Has anyone noticed a change over the last year or so on ATS in the way that the administration of the site handles contentious issues? Don't get me wrong. I think the people who run this site are great people doing an invaluable service. I don't think they have broken but are they showing signs of strain?

This video featured on the infowars website makes me wonder if the window of freedom in the US and on ATS and the internet is about to close. I certainly hope not, but the individual speaking in the video doesn't sound like a crackpot or an impostor to me. I think the guy is serious and frankly, I'm wondering if we have finally reached the end of our tether.

Are we going to see the first of the roundups of undesirables this year?

reply to post by ipsedixit


The round up will begin eventually... it has to. They have to get the guns first. They have no idea what they are getting themselves into.

reply to post by ipsedixit

Sure seems like it.

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I have many reasons to suspect the window is closing and feel it is not a matter of IF but WHEN if immediate steps are not taken to counteract it. Something just has not felt right for a long time now.

I believe you are correct about the cheerleaders online, the propagandists dominating the conversation with mis-direction and attempting to marginalize anyone who dared voice their concerns that something just didn't smell right about 9/11 and the moves made in its aftermath. There was a lot of flag-waving at that time and "patriots" were the most vocal.

It was during that time in the early part of the 2000's that I first discovered ATS and it was that vocal faction that kept me from becoming a member or even visiting the site very often. They were everywhere shouting down the people who felt something was amiss. It was a few years after I managed to bundle up everything and leave the country that the economy and the subterfuge really began coming unravelled that I happened by ATS once again and could see the tide had shifted, that there was just too much to keep beyond the fringe.

I am not sure where this is all heading, don't want to see it happen, and certainly don't want to be anywhere near when this pressure cooker blows its top. If we can't turn down the fire this will get very messy, no doubt about it.

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reply to post by ipsedixit

Indeed it is closing and now theyre coming for our guns.

Man faces tyrants time to time, evil men come and pass the same as the good men. We'll do what we need to do to ensure that they are defeated or die trying.

Never stop fighting the good fight my friends.

Edit, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants"" Thomas Jefferson.

I'm not advocating violence, I'd rather use words to defend liberty.



Edit 2, I'd like to see proof that guy is who he say's he is. I know infowars has "cops" on every few months and they all preach the same thing. I don't trust my Government as much as the next guy but with every few months the same things being said yet not happening I just need more proof at that point. I'm not doubting it possible the Government could do something like that, I just doubt that soon or at this stage. They'd be stupid not to have a complete ban in place before trying to do anything more than what they're doing now.

Originally posted by Preacher76
Edit 2, I'd like to see proof that guy is who he say's he is. I know infowars has "cops" on every few months and they all preach the same thing. I don't trust my Government as much as the next guy but with every few months the same things being said yet not happening I just need more proof at that point. . . .

I think that is very reasonable and well said. We all run into "actors" in real life, and posers and phone-in-frauds. They are definitely out there. The guy in the embedded clip sounds genuine to me, but only time will tell if his information is accurate. The one thing people shouldn't do in times of stress or emergency is jump to conclusions.

In the final analysis, cooler heads usually prevail.

The fact is, the window has been closing on the freedoms that Americans have enjoyed since the early part of the 20th century, beginning with the rise of the "progressive" movement, the eugenics movement who work hand in hand, and Woodrow Wilson creating the Federal Reserve and the institution of the progressive income tax.

That was the beachhead, and evil has been progressing ever since to destroy the bastion of freedom that has been the USA.

What's the best case scenario?

reply to post by peashooter


Electing officials who truly believe and uphold the Constitution and reverse all the socialist/facist, big government agencies and programs is a good start.

reply to post by peashooter


Best case scenario? Fight back and win!

Then, what juniorBeauchamp said.

The voice (Lt) in the vid sounded genuine to me also, that's the scary part. You have a window of 30 to 45 days (Lt's words) that is not a long time and they are coming after preppers first.... Question is, how do they know who the preppers are? I think we all know the answer to the question.

The other thing is, he said. "I'm going home" to protect your family? "yes sir"

I don't live in the united states of america (lower case intended) I live in the United States of the World, run by the same elite group of people.

It was about a year after 9/11 that I started looking into this kind of stuff, I was about 17. I thoughts Alex Jones was a reliable source for a month or so, but something always seemed off with him. I'm not saying he's wrong about everything, I just believe he takes the truth and bends it to what he wants it to be.

That being said, I've expected a "round up" for a while now. I'm actually surprised it hasn't happened yet. To a certain extent, it probably has been happening for some, just under the radar.

Things seem to be ramping up recently, and in my opinion, I think they are pushing for civil war in the states. If they manage to push the gun bans through, that's what will happen. I always suspected they were pushing for a race war, but that hasn't panned out the way they would like (I hope), though some have bought into it.

I don't know what exactly is going to happen, though I think I have a clue. And I know just enough to get outa dodge before it does.

Since the 12212012 curtain was removed from the nwo truth tptb will have to act soon before their dealings are realized by the masses.
Yes the window is closing.

''All we need is the right crisis ,and the world will accept the New World Order'' ,Henry Kissinger .
Im sure once the United States is ''Taken out'' ,most of the rest of the World, will fall in line to the United Nations demands ,[for fear of getting the same treatment ].The Military has all these Droids ,young men trained for this and raised on violent video games ,itching to to Take out ''enemies of the State ''who wont hand in their firearms[an get real life firefight experience ] ,be it assault rifles or bolt rifles etc ,women an children as fatalities will be blaimed on the rebel civilian gunowners .

Just curious (and I am sure in your mind you will label me otherwise) but I don't adhere to your world view and view on 9/11....does that make me a shill? An agent? Or "asleep" in your view? Because honestly, I think you are completely wrong....

Originally posted by ownbestenemy
Just curious (and I am sure in your mind you will label me otherwise) but I don't adhere to your world view and view on 9/11....does that make me a shill? An agent? Or "asleep" in your view? Because honestly, I think you are completely wrong....

What is my "world view"?