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Originally posted by babuthegreat
I think it's pretty obvous why you frequently got bullied when you were in school.
I typically don't pay too much attention to where i stick my apostrophy at when i'm typing, nor do i bother with proofreading my forum posts. If such things as that offened you so much, perhaps the internet isn't the place for you? You've never seen one of those sentence games where the letters are out of order in each word, and yet, the sentence is still leadgible to most fairly intelligent people? I bet you really struggle with those.
I'm sorry, I have a problem with being asked which language i'd like to use before i start a transaction. I also can't stand it when i call my gas company or water company and they first words that the recording says are in Spanish.
Originally posted by kalamatas
Only people who are illegal immigrants seeing these shirts would possibly have had a problem
Originally posted by wagnificent
Originally posted by babuthegreat
reply to post by wagnificent
So you're going to try and lump an obscure state law about sexual positions into the same level of national priority as immigration law? Do i really have to point out the flawed logic in that one?
You're right, we did not treat with the Native Americans fairly. However, I can also say that we conquered them, same way we conquered the british when it came to the revolution. We fought for this and and won it, therefore, it's ours. If you think that "Jose" is spending every damn penny of his money, then you also are utterly mistake. "Jose" sends quite a large amount of the money he makes here back across the border to his family in Mexico. If you'd like, the next time I'm at my local grocery store i'll take a picture of him sending it by Western Union. He works at a local tree farm.
So what you're telling me is that you support a freely open border where anyone can come in and easily be declared a citizen of this country. That's a straight path to the U.S. becoming a thirid world country. We don't have enough jobs to support our curent population, let alone what would happen if we did something like that.
Let's talk about flawed logic then. I think anyone familiar with logic can see through nearly every one of your claims.
1. I was speaking about the selective enforcement of laws and the racist assumptions and false statistics upon which immigration laws are given priority for enforcement. What makes the issue of sexual positions more obscure than immigration? Only the fact that at this point in history, people don't care ANYMORE how other people have sex. At one point they obviously did though, or else why do we have that law? The question is when will people stop caring how others get into "our" country? How does an illegal immigrant affect you personally? If they took your job, then it's probably because either your employer views you only as a means to an end or because you just were not that great at your job. Neither of those things are the immigrant's fault.
2. "We conquered Native Americans, and we took their land, so it's ours." I think the arrogance of that line of reasoning is self-evident. Perhaps you are threatened by the possibility that illegal immigrants are here to conquer our land and make it theirs? If so I would say that's guilty paranoia, not legal righteousness.
3. I admit that yes in fact many immigrants send money to their families, including my girlfriend, but they still have to buy groceries, gas, pay rent, etc. They pay into the system, and many live with very little financial cushion. Sending money to other countries is not spending it? Sending money out of the country is only a problem because America's exports are severely lacking, which is once again not the immigrant's fault. In any case if you think people sending money to their families in other countries is a significant drain on our economy, I think you have overlooked some variables.
4. Free and open borders causing the US to become a third world country is just plain slippery slope argumentation. I'm sure we will all become cannibals and see the end of civilized society too if we open our borders.
5. No we don't have enough jobs to support the income needs of the population, but perhaps opening our borders to people will actually have a revolutionary effect on our economy, wherein people can actually get jobs not for the sake of income but because there is an actual need for that job to be done. But that's socialist, so I'm sure everyone would much prefer to do a mindless job just to rub two coins together and call themselves patriotic.
Originally posted by Partisanity
Originally posted by babuthegreat
I think it's pretty obvous why you frequently got bullied when you were in school.
Riiight. Go ahead and tell me what minority I belong to then that was the sole reason for the pseudo-bullying. It's so "obvous", after all.
I typically don't pay too much attention to where i stick my apostrophy at when i'm typing, nor do i bother with proofreading my forum posts. If such things as that offened you so much, perhaps the internet isn't the place for you? You've never seen one of those sentence games where the letters are out of order in each word, and yet, the sentence is still leadgible to most fairly intelligent people? I bet you really struggle with those.
Do you really think I would've brought up the fact that you don't type in proper English if you weren't trying to demonize practices that aren't offered primarily in English? . I was just trying to give you some linear perspective, but I can see there are some deeper problems with your "logic", and that they always suit you the best and ignore the consequences to everyone else..
I'm sorry, I have a problem with being asked which language i'd like to use before i start a transaction. I also can't stand it when i call my gas company or water company and they first words that the recording says are in Spanish.
That's insane.edit on 5-10-2011 by Partisanity because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Partisanity
Originally posted by kalamatas
Only people who are illegal immigrants seeing these shirts would possibly have had a problem
You've obviously never been discriminated against.
These kids wore these shirts because there was going to be a high population of Latinos there. Anyone not an illegal immigrant might see it and think "HEY! Just because I'm Latino means that I'm an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT?!?! Ignorant BRATS!"
This isn't a huge leap of thought, people.
That's like saying "Only an effeminate gay man would be offended by a shirt that said 'All fags are pansies'".
or
"Only greedy white men would be offended by the statement 'White men are greedy slavedrivers'"edit on 5-10-2011 by Partisanity because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Partisanity
Originally posted by kalamatas
Only people who are illegal immigrants seeing these shirts would possibly have had a problem
You've obviously never been discriminated against.
These kids wore these shirts because there was going to be a high population of Latinos there. Anyone not an illegal immigrant might see it and think "HEY! Just because I'm Latino means that I'm an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT?!?! Ignorant BRATS!"
This isn't a huge leap of thought, people.
That's like saying "Only an effeminate gay man would be offended by a shirt that said 'All fags are pansies'".
or
"Only greedy white men would be offended by the statement 'White men are greedy slavedrivers'"edit on 5-10-2011 by Partisanity because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by babuthegreat
If you had read that whole post? I stated why it was obvious that you were bullied. It's nothing to do with the "minority" (which technically anyone could claim to be some form of minority) that you are, and everything to do with the fact that you have a raging superiority complex. The attitude that you get with everyone that doesn't express the same view that you have? That's the obvious reason why you got put into lockers numerous times.
And those who typically feel the need to attack others spelling/grammatically errors on internet forums are general people who've been proven wrong and are grasping at straws.
This is why I stopped respecting your posts. Because if you can't find it blatantly obvious that a group of kids planned to wear "Border Patrol" shirts to an event that had a high Latino population to stir sh# up then there's no point of talking to you at all.
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
Originally posted by Partisanity
Originally posted by kalamatas
Only people who are illegal immigrants seeing these shirts would possibly have had a problem
You've obviously never been discriminated against.
How you draw any of the same lines to ANY shirts of the sort to one that simply says "Border Patrol"
Is beyod me.......
Originally posted by babuthegreat
Originally posted by Partisanity
Originally posted by kalamatas
Only people who are illegal immigrants seeing these shirts would possibly have had a problem
You've obviously never been discriminated against.
These kids wore these shirts because there was going to be a high population of Latinos there. Anyone not an illegal immigrant might see it and think "HEY! Just because I'm Latino means that I'm an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT?!?! Ignorant BRATS!"
This isn't a huge leap of thought, people.
That's like saying "Only an effeminate gay man would be offended by a shirt that said 'All fags are pansies'".
or
"Only greedy white men would be offended by the statement 'White men are greedy slavedrivers'"edit on 5-10-2011 by Partisanity because: (no reason given)
Where in the phrase Border Patrol does it say anything about Latinos? It's not a direct attack on anyone. At best it's making an implication towards something, but nowhere does it directly attack a group like the two examples you used.