??WAS Lockerbie Bomber Released due to BP Lobbying??

This was on everyone's minds, why was he released, who gained from the release of that man etc

As I created a thread explaining how the truth can be found through the discovery of gain - loss [in this age of lies and deceit].

Is it possible to find the truth, in the age of lie?

Let's examine this story, very interesting indeed:

LONDON (July 15) -- Amid a new U.S. furor over trading a terrorist for commercial considerations, BP confirmed today that it had lobbied the British government in late 2007 over a prisoner transfer agreement with Libya prior to the release of Lockerbie bomber Abdel Baset al-Megrahi.

The London-based petroleum giant said it had voiced concerns that the slow pace of negotiations risked impeding an offshore drilling deal with Moammar Gadhafi's North African country.

www.zawya.com...

The above being laid in plain site view, let's continue with the reasoning given for his release.

They said he was released because he didn't have much time to live, but then the news struck:

The Lockerbie bomber could survive for 10 years or longer, according to an embarrassed cancer specialist who only last year said he would be dead within three months of his release, a newspaper reported on Sunday.

lockerbiecase.blogspot.com...

So obviously people were lied to in all fronts, it goes to show, just because you are a professional, doesn't mean you don't lie. For example, just because you are an expert in physics or engineering, doesn't mean you won't lie, especially when others are too dumbfounded, and would believe you once you show them your doctors certificate.

And now Libya made a huge deal with BP:

BP and its Libyan partner, the Libya Investment Corporation (LIC), today signed a major exploration and production agreement with Libya's National Oil Company (NOC). The initial exploration commitment is set at a minimum of $900million, with significant additional appraisal and development expenditures upon exploration success.

www.bp.com...

Last but not least, Libya claims there is no link between the $900 million deal and the Lockerbie Bomber's release:

DUBAI (Zawya Dow Jones)--Libya's top oil official has rejected suggestions that a $900 million oil deal awarded to U.K. oil major BP PLC (BP) in 2007 was linked to the release of convicted Lockerbie bomber Abdel Baset Al Megrahi.

www.zawya.com...

So what do you make of this story?

It is amazing for me because it adds weight to my theory that in today's age of lies, you can find the truth through gains and losses.

Am I right in my analysis.

Ofcurse conditions have to be met first, for example materialism plays a huge role in it.

Hope so, would be nice to have gained something out of it.

Originally posted by Mike_A
Hope so, would be nice to have gained something out of it.

Are you saying it is OK to mute justice based on material gains?

Let's examine this scenario:

If someone murders your son and offers you million dollars to avoid justice, would you take it?

Interesting scenario indeed, but just a scenario.

What do you think?

Well it certainly didn't hurt.
Pretty damned disgusting ain't it?

Originally posted by Phage
Well it certainly didn't hurt.
Pretty damned disgusting ain't it?

What do you mean didn't hurt?

It would help others understand your point of view with a little more clarification.

reply to post by oozyism

Yes, too concise. What I mean is;
The lobbying efforts may not have been the sole motivation for the release but they didn't provide any reasonable argument against it. I believe that they did contribute to the abominable decision.

??WAS Lockerbie Bomber Released due to BP Lobbying?? Yup.

Why? It appears their justice is based on lucrative deals (as per the OP's theory and news related articles as supporting `evidence`), regardless of who gets hurt (or dies in any event). As always, they are good at denying any allegations to these deals.

So what do you make of this story? It's too good to be true, of course. Alas, it's just another conspiracy. Ah, the network is so vast, I'm afraid. Just follow the money trail, if you can. Yes, materialism always count. Brouhaha!

reply to post by oozyism


I'm saying that's politics.

Originally posted by Mike_A
reply to post by oozyism

 

I'm saying that's politics.

Do you support politics?

Is that the way of life you chose, or is it forced on you?

reply to post by oozyism

Politics is like your heart.
You don't really pay much attention unless it gives you problems and you can't live without it.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by oozyism

 

Politics is like your heart.
You don't really pay much attention unless it gives you problems and you can't live without it.

Amazing explanation ^^



As long as you profit through evil sin it is alright, but if you are negatively effected, you fight.

That's exactly what is happening in the world right now, a lot of people are fighting the same governments which rewards you through their evil deeds, avoiding the negative effects by concentrating it to one area far, far away.

reply to post by oozyism

I can't really take credit.
It's a loose paraphrase of something I read. Somewhere. Sometime. I can't place it exactly.
But it rings true.

Personally, I see the release as a convenient way to avoid the appeal that was already in motion.

My personal opinion is the one of prefering to see the appeal go forward. I wonder how this would have played out in the press if he had been found not guilty or not proven on appeal?

Anyway as far a blame goes I guess by extension (since the actual release was not signed by BP) that means we Brits manage to slide onto America's Axis of Evil list..

Originally posted by thoughtsfull



Anyway as far a blame goes I guess by extension (since the actual release was not signed by BP) that means we Brits manage to slide onto America's Axis of Evil list..

I think for many American posters on ATS we slipped into that list a while ago. Probably an all time low in UK/US relations at the moment. It will be interesting to see how this one pans out.

Originally posted by thoughtsfull

Personally, I see the release as a convenient way to avoid the appeal that was already in motion.

My personal opinion is the one of prefering to see the appeal go forward. I wonder how this would have played out in the press if he had been found not guilty or not proven on appeal?

Anyway as far a blame goes I guess by extension (since the actual release was not signed by BP) that means we Brits manage to slide onto America's Axis of Evil list..

One correction, Britain is part of the US, remember Britain collapsed during WWII, America and USSR was both fighting over Europe, and Middle East, and Central Asia, hence the cold war. Millions perished, and Billions forgot zzz.

reply to post by oozyism


As Phage said, it’s a necessity, as is oil and money. While I wouldn’t ordinarily support releasing terrorists if what is to be gained is sufficiently important and it’s either we gain or a rival does then I change my stance.

It’s the practical realities of a world in which moral ideals are a pipe dream.

Originally posted by oozyism
One correction, Britain is part of the US, remember Britain collapsed during WWII, America and USSR was both fighting over Europe, and Middle East, and Central Asia, hence the cold war. Millions perished, and Billions forgot zzz.

Britan is not part of the US. They fought the Germans when most of the rest of Europe had fallen. We, the US did not enter the war in Europe for quite some time as we already had a war with Japan. It was almost too late to help Europe when we did, but when we did we fought the Germans. We did not fight the Russians.

The Russians also fought Germany and if they had not then the world would not look the same today.

The "Cold War" between the US and Russia was an extended situaion that occured after WW2.

Of course you might disagree but if you go back to publications and books from the time of those events you will see that these are the basic facts.

I had a similar discussion with a gentleman who told me that Richard Nixon started the Vietnam War to get drug money.

Love this website.

So creative.

[edit on 20-7-2010 by badgerprints]

Originally posted by woodwardjnr

Originally posted by thoughtsfull

Anyway as far a blame goes I guess by extension (since the actual release was not signed by BP) that means we Brits manage to slide onto America's Axis of Evil list..

I think for many American posters on ATS we slipped into that list a while ago. Probably an all time low in UK/US relations at the moment. It will be interesting to see how this one pans out.

I do agree that it will be interesting to see how this plays out.. and we do seem at an all time low in the media relationship with the US. Media which seems to have the same agenda of stoking tensions on both sides of the pond..

reply to post by badgerprints


So Britain didn't fall?

And USSR didn't back stab the US, and the US didn't back stab USSR after WWII due to greed, fighting over influence and fighting for territory?

You only have a layman guide of history, the hidden history ofcurse is still mute to you (because tools are to be ignorant, tools are not to think). Heck I bet you can't even admit that Japan is part of the US? AM I RIGHT?

In regards to Britain, we know Britain collapsed, go read the history, there was nothing left, in that situation an empire comes and takes over, the US came and took over Britain, Germany and other European countries which collapsed.

Then USSR came from the other side, fighting for territory also, hence the German wall.

It was a fight between USSR and the US empires, fighting to gain more territory and implement their own ideology.

Hence Iraq, Qassim was socialist and planned to nationalize oil therefore the US implemented a coup to bring the BAATH party.

The BAATH party was a puppet of the US until Saddam in his late days of dictatorship, back stabbed the US.

Heck Saddam went to war against Iran for the US, your fake history can say what ever it likes, that history is layman, and created for tools, which avoids taking in to consideration conspiracies.

And I guess you already know, this site is about conspiracies.