"A Vast Oceanus Borealis May have Once Covered 1/3 of Mars"

So, there was water on Mars. Oceans of water... New research from Lorena Moscardelli, a geologist at the University of Texas, Austin, suggests that the boulders found, large fields of boulder-size rocks blanket parts of Mars' northern plains were delivered to their current locations by catastrophic underwater landslides--bolstering evidence for an ancient Martian ocean.

In the past, geoscientists thought of ocean sediments as mostly fine-grained, floating in the water column and settling like a slow "rain" on the sea floor, Moscardelli explained. But we now know it's not the only possible scenario.

"We know that 'submarine landslides' can transport big boulders--sometimes as big as a house--for hundreds of kilometers into the deep-water of the Earth oceans," she said. "Imagine a huge landslide affecting the entire state of Texas, but happening in the ocean."


In her new study, Moscardelli documents several sites where these events have occurred on Earth, such as the Pennsylvanian Jackfork Group of south-central Arkansas; the outcrops of the Guandacol Formation in the Pangazo Basin, Argentina; or in the Santos Basin, offshore Brazil. She even shows that these underwater events can affect huge areas, as with a massive landslide that covered thousands of square kilometers in the Barents Sea, north of Russia, about a million years ago.

Some scientists have suggested that the boulders of Mars's northern plain could be the product of meteorite impacts. But to Moscardelli, that's not a fitting theory.

"That's possible for some of the boulders, especially those found close to craters," she says. "But how do you explain boulder fields that can cover thousands of square kilometers without any impact craters around? The submarine hypothesis provides a feasible alternative."

www.dailygalaxy.com...

So, step by step and slowly new clues comes out of what Mars was some time ago... and it appear that it was right like our Earth...

Have you seen this link? it may be of interest to you

Water on Mars

flag and planet to you op
if that was all water the rest of the planet would have been green instead of brown

Indigent
Have you seen this link? it may be of interest to you

Water on Mars

So? What?

Interesting hypothesis. One thing I wonder, was Mars red back then, or did the redness develop later on, when the planet dried up? The artist's interpretation may need to include more grey than red.

It needs to be noted that even if there was plentiful water on Mars, it doesn't imply Earth-like appearance with forests and grasslands. Life on Mars might have never had a chance to evolve beyond simple microorganisms, or to evolve at all.

en.wikipedia.org...
www.space.com...

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So have you seen it you may like it,

is it anything about what i say bothering you?

wildespace
Interesting hypothesis. One thing I wonder, was Mars red back then, or did the redness develop later on, when the planet dried up? The artist's interpretation may need to include more grey than red.

It needs to be noted that even if there was plentiful water on Mars, it doesn't imply Earth-like appearance with forests and grasslands. Life on Mars might have never had a chance to evolve beyond simple microorganisms, or to evolve at all.

en.wikipedia.org...
www.space.com...

I read somewhere that the red pigment is iron oxide. Perhaps Olympus Mons blew, that would certainly kill off a planet.

Mars. Is dead. Was Dead. Will always be dead. if mars has any water, and I suspect it does, then that's great. I'm so happy. The only thing Mars is good for is a waypoint through the solar system, as a gravity well for spacecraft operations and as a piggy bank of natural materials. Mars is about useless scientists scoring a long term paycheck. exploring Mars is the biggest dead end in science, and it is a CRIMINAL waste of money! just like most of the rest of nasa !

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One thing I wonder, was Mars red back then, or did the redness develop later on

Mars would have looked much like Earth does today with it's thicker atmosphere and water at the surface ,the reddening came later.
Here's a vision of what Mars could have looked like put together using MRO data, of course this is just someone's vision of how Mars would have looked but I believe it most likely correct.

In the rendering, a huge ocean fills one side of the planet, feeding one of the longest valleys in the solar system, Vallis Marineris. The peaks of Mars’ huge volcanoes — Olympus Mons, Pavonis Mons, Ascraeus Mons and Arsia Mons — dominate the Tharsis Bulge with their peaks poking above the atmosphere. Gill imagined that the high-altitude equatorial volcanic region would likely be a desert where little vegetation would grow, whereas lower latitudes would support a wetter climate boosting the presence of greenery.

Blue, Not Red: Did Ancient Mars Look Like This?

What a sad bunch of people the "Rock" and Arken debunkers are... (IMO)

Shame on some people for not having a more open minded approach...

Arken, you have contributed so well to everything that has to do with the planet Mars and even if some of your threads may have been proved to be wrong, I would like to personally thank you for such dedicated and well written threads.

As usual... DENY IGNORANCE... (If you cannot, why be here?)

Kindest respects

Rodinus

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Who is debunking anything here?

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I read somewhere that the red pigment is iron oxide. Perhaps Olympus Mons blew, that would certainly kill off a planet.

Olympus Mons is three times the height of Everest and would dwarf any super volcano found on earth, so yes it would most certainly be able to cause a mass extinction.

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Iron Oxyde equals Rust :

How is rust formed :

Plain-old iron looks shiny black. The element only takes on a reddish tinge when it has been exposed to oxygen, and enough oxygen at that for it to become iron(III) oxide, an atomic fivesome composed of two iron atoms and three oxygen atoms. So why did so much of the iron on Mars' surface oxidize, or gang up with oxygen...?

Link here : www.space.com...

More answers can be found by simply Googling

Kindest respects

Rodinus

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Life on Mars might have never had a chance to evolve beyond simple microorganisms, or to evolve at all.

Hmmm, Why this opinion?

Rodinus
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Iron Oxyde equals Rust :

How is rust formed :

Plain-old iron looks shiny black. The element only takes on a reddish tinge when it has been exposed to oxygen, and enough oxygen at that for it to become iron(III) oxide, an atomic fivesome composed of two iron atoms and three oxygen atoms. So why did so much of the iron on Mars' surface oxidize, or gang up with oxygen...?

Link here : www.space.com...

More answers can be found by simply Googling

Kindest respects

Rodinus

I'm sorry, what was the question?

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My answer is to take your time to read everything from the OP and various answers afterwards and then figure it out for yourself... but to help you along the way... Quite simply :

Why does Iron get rusty and turn red?

You should know this response???

Kindest respects

Rodinus

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I don't think that I need to answer your question, it is fairly obvious already, people just need to read in-between the lines.

Why do you ask this question Indigent, do you feel targeted? If you feel you are, I would like to kindly invite you to U2U me to avoid thread derail.

Anyway, out of respect to the OP shall we get back on topic?

Kindest respects

Rodinus

Rodinus
What a sad bunch of people the "Rock" and Arken debunkers are... (IMO)

Shame on some people for not having a more open minded approach...

Arken, you have contributed so well to everything that has to do with the planet Mars and even if some of your threads may have been proved to be wrong, I would like to personally thank you for such dedicated and well written threads.

As usual... DENY IGNORANCE... (If you cannot, why be here?)

Kindest respects

Rodinus

Thanks Rodinus.

We (publicly) know "nothing" about Mars or other planets in this solar system. The scientists' theories about what is real and what is not have the life of a butterfly.
Many of the bunch of the pseudo-skeptics/debunkers are firmly blocked on that volatile theories (not all, of course) and I understand their behavior. They need the official statements...

Till "Yesterday", There were some of the official theories
There is NO water on the Moon. (CONFIRMED)
There is NO water on Mars. (CONFIRMED)

What's NEXT?

I know, but I wait the official statement....

I take very seriously The ATS Motto DENY IGNORANCE

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It is a state of mind.

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It is a statement against the paradigm.

It is a rage against the mindless status-quo.

The idea of "deny ignorance" isn't a goal that ATS hopes to accomplish. Instead, it's a challenge. A call to all those who come here to aspire to a higher state of awareness through informed discussion and debate.

Deny ignorance is what we do.

It's how we think. It's how we talk. It's how we listen.

Ignorance is the social disease of history. Is the evil that men do, the reason history repeats, and the cause of intolerance.

We deny it. it's not welcome here. Within these boundaries, it has no strength.

Here, ignorance is denied.

And I'm on this way.

Indigent
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So have you seen it you may like it,

is it anything about what i say bothering you?

No, no, Indigent. I waiting your personal comment about this.

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According to the link there is enough ice to cover in 35 meters the whole surface right now, and it shows all the experiments and findings of all mars missions, the evidence of ancients lakes, deltas, and so on. why people don't check links