Smoking Cigarettes...

reply to post by ThePublicEnemyNo1


It's all good.

Hard work is lonely.

Alcohol and tobacco work well together.

It's a hard job to be sober and working many hours.

First, you are not alone. That is the number one thing to remember.

Second, don't smoke and more importantly...don't drink.

The workhorses of America and the world need to be addicted, remember that.

reply to post by ThePublicEnemyNo1


Yes I am saying nicotine isn't carcinogenic. To answer you other questions and help clarify. No smoking isn't good. Even the American Spirits. Although they might lack nicotine they do contain tar. That is carcinogenic. *other chemicals in mainstream cigs are also carcinogenic*

American Spirits while better than those Camels are far from the best options available.

Smoked for 26 years
Chantex + a electronic cigarette = quit without missing it. (used the no nicotine e-stuff.). After 2 weeks on chantex, you have the ability to quit, will still require a bit of willpower to fully swap over of course, but it is a hell of a lot easier. totally worth it.

keep in mind, first chantex won't seem to be doing anything, maybe make you feel off, then you will suddenly be smoking double, then triple normal (because nicotine is effecting less and less..your ultimately quitting already at that point, you just don't realize it)..then suddenly, it wont even matter, you could have a smoke, and probably enjoy the process, but its not like you need it like normal..its just there...that's when you quit, swap over to e-cigs, and call it a day.

Should work fine. Worked for me.

reply to post by SaturnFX


That's awesome

*Edit: (used the no nicotine e-stuff.)

Your e-cigs didn't have nicotine?

When I quit the first time, yes, I went back like an idiot, I went cold turkey.

It was *totally* painless.

No gum, patches, lozenges, chews, no replacements what so ever.

What did I do? I got on youtube and subjected myself to a reality break. I watched videos of people that had cancer. I watched videos about what nicotine does to the brain and body. It is rat poison, and we put it in our bodies, willingly.

I cried. I hated myself for what I was doing to my body. I got online and found an awesome website about going cold turkey. I psyched myself up so hard, quitting was no only easy, it was pleasureable. The success made me joyous!

It only takes 72 hours for all nicotine to be out of your system. From that point on, it's all in your head.

Plan a time where you will have 72 hours alone, or, if you prefer, with others. I chose mostly alone, certainly not workdays. But, with my husband, so I had someone to talk to if I needed.

Never got raging lunatic mad. Never felt any withdrawals, never got anxious, nervous, or upset. I just kept my mind off of it. I made my decision, and that was that.

I stayed quit for 3 months. Going back was just as conscious a decision, albeit a stupid one.

I hate it more than ever. I am planning on quitting again, the same way. The exact same way, because it worked and didn't cost me a red cent in replacement.

You do know that those same tobacco companies that addicted you in the first place are also the very same companies that manufacture and sell all the patches, gums, and lozenges? Not sure about vapes, but it wouldn't shock me. Also not sure about the drugs, but links there wouldn't shock me either.

I was amazed how much money was left in the bank. I was stupid thinking I could quit after just one cig, which became just one pack, which became just one carton... when I quit again, which I know I CAN do, I will never EVER make the mistake of "just one will be ok". I will never put another in my mouth again.

I promise, cold turkey sounds much scarier than it really is. It really does. Kind of like people that are deathly afraid of needles, then they will always say, "Well, that wasn't so bad afterall."

The hardest part was the first 24 hours, but it was mostly mental the entire time.

It's all just a head game to quit, just like it was a head game that got you to start in the first place. Each and every one of us.

So, play the headgames. Psych yourself out for about a week on vids and websites. Cry, get angry at how you have been manipulated. Rant, scream, and then, get even. Go cold turkey, and swear, you will never give them another red penney. Or, your life.

Advocating the use of nicotine (a poison with no medicinal benefit,) is akin to advocating paying for and ingesting a small measure of strychnine. I truly cannot understand it. Nicotine based pesticides, anyone? What does that indicate to you?

I'm 24 and I've only smoked like 10 packs of cigarettes in my life so far (usually after traumatic events) but my friend has nearly quit after smoking e-cigarettes for 2-3 weeks, he still smokes 1-2 cigarettes every other day but he used to smoke a pack a day so that's a big difference. I almost got hooked at 16 due to peer pressure and teenage angst but I just said No and was strapped for cash as it was so that was it.

A while back I made a horrible decision and drove while completely wasted on alcohol and blacked out while driving at 3AM. I ended up rolling my truck multiple times and getting thrown out the front windshield breaking a few ribs and collecting 10 or so new scars as well as acquiring a DUI and losing my license/job. I ended up getting extremely depressed and smoked 4 packs over 2 days before realizing that it was pointless and now I'm just sitting at home doing nothing all of the time. It's funny how one mistake can pretty much derail your life.

reply to post by centhwevir1979


If you have never been hooked on cigs then no one expects you to understand. And you truly do not understand until you are hooked.
This thread is about helping some one quit, not beating them down for it, that doesn't help. Causes stress and then the person is going to want a cig... But you wouldn't not understand that

reply to post by ThePublicEnemyNo1


I hope that you can. A member here checks up from time to time on me, or visa-versa when I feel overwhelmed. It's a long row to hoe as they say.

I tell people that I am addicted to nicotine, and without it, I am a dick.

I guess I've been a dick quite a few months now. Oh, I've had a few hiccups here and there, but that probably saved someones life.

Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by calstorm

 

I quit using the e-cig and an under the tongue spray stuff called smoke free that I got at the health food store. The Spray helps with cravings and the e-cig helps with the hand to mouth habit.

Electronic Cigarettes should help with the craving by themselves as they contain nicotine. Nicotine is the addictive chemical.

edit on 16-2-2014 by Lucid Lunacy because: (no reason given)

You can buy them with nicotine, but you can also buy them with zero nicotine. I used the zero nicotine. Even after I broke the nicotine habit I still craved the feeling of something going into my lungs when I was stressed out.

I have been trying to quit smoking too and understand how you feel about it. I actually quit the habit once for 2-3 months and stupidly thought I'll just smoke 1 cigarette for old times sake (that was almost 3 years ago). Beginning of this month I actually thought I'll quit smoking again and didn't smoke for 4 days but met a friend who offered me one..and the story goes on.

I completely understand what you mean about loving smoking, it's like a ritual and everything about it awesome except the side effects. I feel I'll quit smoking today and will let you guys know how it goes soon.

Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

That's awesome

*Edit: (used the no nicotine e-stuff.)

Your e-cigs didn't have nicotine?

edit on 16-2-2014 by Lucid Lunacy because: (no reason given)

Pointless to have nicotine when chantex blocks nicotine anyhow. I wasn't using e-cigs to quit the addiction, just the habit, and don't need nicotine to feed the habit.

I could use nicotine though, especially at the beginning if you need that extra kick to the throat feeling, but yeah, the nicotine blocking that chantex does sort of invalidates that.

I don't buy the disposable ecigs, that's a ripoff, I got a good battery and container and either buy or make the juice myself depending on if I am feeling lazy. heh. I rarely hit the e-cig now, once in awhile, but hardly ever...not from trying to cut down, just over time the habit waned naturally.

reply to post by Sremmos80

I have smoked cigarettes. After 6 months of regular use I evaluated the way I felt and did more research about nicotine. When I realized it was purely poisonous, I stopped for good. The power of my mind surpassed the grip of nicotine. There was no beating anyone up, sensitive much? People that want to smoke, smoke. People that can't use logic to justify paying to poison themselves stop or don't start.

TrustMeImLying


I completely understand what you mean about loving smoking, it's like a ritual and everything about it awesome except the side effects. I feel I'll quit smoking today and will let you guys know how it goes soon.

Do you believe you could put such enthusiasm into a Japanese tea ritual? Everything about it is awesome and there are no side effects except perhaps a strangely invigorating tranquility.

reply to post by centhwevir1979

Advocating the use of nicotine (a poison with no medicinal benefit,) is akin to advocating paying for and ingesting a small measure of strychnine. I truly cannot understand it. Nicotine based pesticides, anyone? What does that indicate to you?

Why don't you lead with the post you just told me and then say something like see it can be done! with a Instead of the above
That is what I am saying. And you could truly understand it if you did it for 6 months, so why would you say you truly cannot understand it? That is the statement that led me to believe you never smoked.
You offered no words of encouragement when the poster was just asking for help.
And yes I am sensitve much, been watching my old man battle smoking and watching him spend over 10k on his teeth from the damage and when some one looks for help to get off them they don't need to be called out in a condescending manner. Just came off so smug

reply to post by centhwevir1979


Update on my smoking status since yesterday. I didn't smoke any cigarette after my post yesterday till today. However, I had a important meeting (once of a lifetime) and I was pretty nervous about the same. My colleagues offered me cigarette and to calm my nerves, I smoked a couple. I was pretty disappointed with myself and still am. Also, thinking of buying e-cigarette as I've been reading several forums that it helps to quit smoking.

The meeting went great if anyone was wondering and I'm quite excited and thrilled about it. I smoked a few after it again because I was excited.

Current status: Haven't quit

centhwevir1979

TrustMeImLying


I completely understand what you mean about loving smoking, it's like a ritual and everything about it awesome except the side effects. I feel I'll quit smoking today and will let you guys know how it goes soon.

Do you believe you could put such enthusiasm into a Japanese tea ritual? Everything about it is awesome and there are no side effects except perhaps a strangely invigorating tranquility.

I would because I like tea however, Japanese tea ritual takes a longer time - I tried it for the fun of it twice.

reply to post by TrustMeImLying

One of my favoeite sayings, and, if you are honest, will realize it's true - You didn't learn to smoke in a day, you won't learn to quit in a day,either.

Take it easy on yourself, and keep trying! You can do it! The key is not giving up! I know you can. Heck, if I could quit, I know anyone can. I was what I thought, hopeless, then surprised even myself!

reply to post by Libertygal


That's great to hear and congratulations on your success. I will keep trying. Thanks!

TrustMeImLying
reply to post by Libertygal

 

That's great to hear and congratulations on your success. I will keep trying. Thanks!

Oh, don't misunderstand, I started back. I posted in the thread about it, but, I still consider it a success. Just didn't want to not reply, and have it be misleading.