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BenReclused
reply to post by AfterInfinity
Persecute:
to treat (someone) cruelly or unfairly especially because of race or religious or political beliefs
Anti-theists, such as yourself, are just as guilty of that, as anyone else is. Perhaps, you should follow your own advice:
Try defending their right to seek meaning in that which they value, and they might return the favor.
See ya,
Milt
I'm not anti-theist.
Anti-theists are not passive atheists; they delight in atheism and delight in exposing the errors, absurdities, and pretensions of theists. Anti-theists consider all gods to be false gods and any benefits from belief in gods to be far outweighed by the harm done by such beliefs to the individual and to society.
I disapprove of utilizing theism as anything more than a personal philosophy. I also enjoy presenting myself as a willing brick wall off of which they can bounce ideas derived from said philosophy.
And yes, I do defend their right to have those opinions. I have done so, on more than one occasion.
Thank you for your concern.
The lack of a god, to me, is about as evident and convenient and inspiring as gravity.
I don't see a problem here. If an African-American chooses to advertise his ethnicity in an area that is vehemently against [African-Americans, then he deserves everything that he gets.
I don't see a problem here. If a homosexual chooses to advertise his homosexuality in an area that is vehemently against homosexuality, then he deserves everything that he gets.
I don't see a problem here. If an African-American chooses to advertise his ethnicity in an area that is vehemently against [African-Americans, then he deserves everything that he gets.
I don't see a problem here. If a homosexual chooses to advertise his homosexuality in an area that is vehemently against homosexuality, then he deserves everything that he gets.
To me, atheism is an understanding, not a celebration.
I do not find atheism, nor any body of evidence found to be in support of such, a cause for revelry as a result of being atheistic or in support of such.
I have brown hair - should I thus find everything which features brown hair to be worthy of applause and adoration? I think not.
I may attempt to disillusion those who believe they have found conclusive evidence or persuasive argument by which to soundly put their theistic case to bed, I don't take delight in it.
Anti-theism is active and vocal opposition to belief in gods of any sort and to institutions built around belief in a deity.
And no, I don't have any links to give you right off hand.
AfterInfinity
Christians, if you're so concerned about being persecuted, then maybe you should stand up for some of the people you've been persecuting on ATS. Muslims, Wiccans, Communists, Taoists, Buddhists, Greek Pantheists, etc. You call them heathens, blasphemers, idolaters and devil worshippers. Try defending their right to seek meaning in that which they value, and they might return the favor. Then when it's your turn to face the sword, they'll remember your compassion and stand at your side.
And consider this as well: how many of these supposed "religious wars" are fought, not for the sake of some god, but for the sake of resources that might be garnered through the expansion of command and influence? "My god gives me good reason to conquer this land which just so happens to possess a certain material resource which would bring great business opportunities to my empire." After all, what god would demand that his most faithful followers fight in his name while malnourished and unsheltered? He will provide, and he has done, even so far as delivering heathens to your doorstep as willing couriers of exactly the supplies you need more of. Oh, and by the way, kill the messengers. They are blasphemers.edit on 11-2-2014 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
AfterInfinity
reply to post by BenReclused
Hmm. I would argue with that using this selection:
The lack of a god, to me, is about as evident and convenient and inspiring as gravity.
To me, atheism is an understanding, not a celebration. I do not find atheism, nor any body of evidence found to be in support of such, a cause for revelry as a result of being atheistic or in support of such. I have brown hair - should I thus find everything which features brown hair to be worthy of applause and adoration? I think not. As such, while I may attempt to disillusion those who believe they have found conclusive evidence or persuasive argument by which to soundly put their theistic case to bed, I don't take delight in it. I take delight in the explorative processes by which all concerned parties walk away educated. If I learn something, I'm pleased. If I teach something, I'm pleased.
And no, I don't have any links to give you right off hand. One, it's off topic. Two, I'm not that conceited. I don't give myself pats on the back and record the concerned post as a memorandum of accomplishment.
edit on 11-2-2014 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
AfterInfinity
I have both furthered the cause and preserved my integrity in the process. I inadvertently converted a Catholic to atheism. You may bow now.
AfterInfinity
reply to post by FriedBabelBroccoli
And yet I never see you on any Christian threads defending the honor and integrity of us heathens. I come here to have some good honest discussions because you can't ask the questions I do without getting punched in the face. You want to talk about persecution?edit on 11-2-2014 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
I come here to have some good honest discussions because you can't ask the questions I do without getting punched in the face.
AfterInfinity
reply to post by FriedBabelBroccoli
Did you ever look at those biology textbooks like I asked you to?
And what sick people am I defending?
I think this picture pretty much covers it.
Sounds like you've got a lot of beef with me.