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NavyDoc
bluesilver
thesaneone
reply to post by bluesilver
Why would it be bad?
An armed society is a polite society.
I would like to invite you and any other person that is afraid of an inanimate object to come and hang with me in Arizona, this way you will see how civilized responsible gun owners are.
Walk into the local grocery store and you will see at least a dozen people walking around with their gun on their hip or if you choose you can get a ccw card and conceal it like many others do.
If a criminal can see that you are holding, chances are they will not even think about starting trouble.
I suppose the issue is that on the whole, we don't need a gun to protect ourselves. I guess that means our society doesn't have as many criminals as you do. We certainly don't have as many gun related murders as you do.
Don't need a gun to protect yourself or don't protect yourself at all and hope the next guy gets victimized? Your rates of violent crime are actually higher overall. The difference is, I guess, is the mentality. Like a herd of sheep, your defense lies in the statistical probability that you will not be the one victimized...the other guy will. Also the mentality of "the life of the rapist is more important than the woman's vagina. Vaginas eventually recover from rape but death is forever so don't kill the rapist to stop him." I've seen both mentalities in the UK the various times I've been there.
The mentality of law abiding gun owners is we hope we don't have to use one but if we do we want to be able to have one and we don't care about the health or well being of the criminal. If he didn't want to get shot, he should have not decided to be a criminal in the first place.
bluesilver
NavyDoc
bluesilver
thesaneone
reply to post by bluesilver
Why would it be bad?
An armed society is a polite society.
I would like to invite you and any other person that is afraid of an inanimate object to come and hang with me in Arizona, this way you will see how civilized responsible gun owners are.
Walk into the local grocery store and you will see at least a dozen people walking around with their gun on their hip or if you choose you can get a ccw card and conceal it like many others do.
If a criminal can see that you are holding, chances are they will not even think about starting trouble.
I suppose the issue is that on the whole, we don't need a gun to protect ourselves. I guess that means our society doesn't have as many criminals as you do. We certainly don't have as many gun related murders as you do.
Don't need a gun to protect yourself or don't protect yourself at all and hope the next guy gets victimized? Your rates of violent crime are actually higher overall. The difference is, I guess, is the mentality. Like a herd of sheep, your defense lies in the statistical probability that you will not be the one victimized...the other guy will. Also the mentality of "the life of the rapist is more important than the woman's vagina. Vaginas eventually recover from rape but death is forever so don't kill the rapist to stop him." I've seen both mentalities in the UK the various times I've been there.
The mentality of law abiding gun owners is we hope we don't have to use one but if we do we want to be able to have one and we don't care about the health or well being of the criminal. If he didn't want to get shot, he should have not decided to be a criminal in the first place.
Our rate of violent crime is not higher, we just record more things than you as being a violent crime.
If you really think we have more gun related murders than the US then you have no idea about what you are talking about.
bluesilver
NavyDoc
bluesilver
thesaneone
reply to post by bluesilver
Why would it be bad?
An armed society is a polite society.
I would like to invite you and any other person that is afraid of an inanimate object to come and hang with me in Arizona, this way you will see how civilized responsible gun owners are.
Walk into the local grocery store and you will see at least a dozen people walking around with their gun on their hip or if you choose you can get a ccw card and conceal it like many others do.
If a criminal can see that you are holding, chances are they will not even think about starting trouble.
I suppose the issue is that on the whole, we don't need a gun to protect ourselves. I guess that means our society doesn't have as many criminals as you do. We certainly don't have as many gun related murders as you do.
Don't need a gun to protect yourself or don't protect yourself at all and hope the next guy gets victimized? Your rates of violent crime are actually higher overall. The difference is, I guess, is the mentality. Like a herd of sheep, your defense lies in the statistical probability that you will not be the one victimized...the other guy will. Also the mentality of "the life of the rapist is more important than the woman's vagina. Vaginas eventually recover from rape but death is forever so don't kill the rapist to stop him." I've seen both mentalities in the UK the various times I've been there.
The mentality of law abiding gun owners is we hope we don't have to use one but if we do we want to be able to have one and we don't care about the health or well being of the criminal. If he didn't want to get shot, he should have not decided to be a criminal in the first place.
Our rate of violent crime is not higher, we just record more things than you as being a violent crime.
If you really think we have more gun related murders than the US then you have no idea about what you are talking about.
bluesilver
bluesilver
NavyDoc
bluesilver
thesaneone
reply to post by bluesilver
Why would it be bad?
An armed society is a polite society.
I would like to invite you and any other person that is afraid of an inanimate object to come and hang with me in Arizona, this way you will see how civilized responsible gun owners are.
Walk into the local grocery store and you will see at least a dozen people walking around with their gun on their hip or if you choose you can get a ccw card and conceal it like many others do.
If a criminal can see that you are holding, chances are they will not even think about starting trouble.
I suppose the issue is that on the whole, we don't need a gun to protect ourselves. I guess that means our society doesn't have as many criminals as you do. We certainly don't have as many gun related murders as you do.
Don't need a gun to protect yourself or don't protect yourself at all and hope the next guy gets victimized? Your rates of violent crime are actually higher overall. The difference is, I guess, is the mentality. Like a herd of sheep, your defense lies in the statistical probability that you will not be the one victimized...the other guy will. Also the mentality of "the life of the rapist is more important than the woman's vagina. Vaginas eventually recover from rape but death is forever so don't kill the rapist to stop him." I've seen both mentalities in the UK the various times I've been there.
The mentality of law abiding gun owners is we hope we don't have to use one but if we do we want to be able to have one and we don't care about the health or well being of the criminal. If he didn't want to get shot, he should have not decided to be a criminal in the first place.
Our rate of violent crime is not higher, we just record more things than you as being a violent crime.
If you really think we have more gun related murders than the US then you have no idea about what you are talking about.
And what the hell are you talking about rape for??? Are you seriously saying that our society would have less crime if we carried guns?? You do know you have more murders than we do?
bigfatfurrytexan
bluesilver
NavyDoc
bluesilver
thesaneone
reply to post by bluesilver
Why would it be bad?
An armed society is a polite society.
I would like to invite you and any other person that is afraid of an inanimate object to come and hang with me in Arizona, this way you will see how civilized responsible gun owners are.
Walk into the local grocery store and you will see at least a dozen people walking around with their gun on their hip or if you choose you can get a ccw card and conceal it like many others do.
If a criminal can see that you are holding, chances are they will not even think about starting trouble.
I suppose the issue is that on the whole, we don't need a gun to protect ourselves. I guess that means our society doesn't have as many criminals as you do. We certainly don't have as many gun related murders as you do.
Don't need a gun to protect yourself or don't protect yourself at all and hope the next guy gets victimized? Your rates of violent crime are actually higher overall. The difference is, I guess, is the mentality. Like a herd of sheep, your defense lies in the statistical probability that you will not be the one victimized...the other guy will. Also the mentality of "the life of the rapist is more important than the woman's vagina. Vaginas eventually recover from rape but death is forever so don't kill the rapist to stop him." I've seen both mentalities in the UK the various times I've been there.
The mentality of law abiding gun owners is we hope we don't have to use one but if we do we want to be able to have one and we don't care about the health or well being of the criminal. If he didn't want to get shot, he should have not decided to be a criminal in the first place.
Our rate of violent crime is not higher, we just record more things than you as being a violent crime.
If you really think we have more gun related murders than the US then you have no idea about what you are talking about.
Look at you moving the goal posts in between sentences.
All gun crime is violent crime, but not all violent crime is gun crime.
Now, he was talking about apples. You should resume talking about apples.
bluesilver
bigfatfurrytexan
bluesilver
NavyDoc
bluesilver
thesaneone
reply to post by bluesilver
Why would it be bad?
An armed society is a polite society.
I would like to invite you and any other person that is afraid of an inanimate object to come and hang with me in Arizona, this way you will see how civilized responsible gun owners are.
Walk into the local grocery store and you will see at least a dozen people walking around with their gun on their hip or if you choose you can get a ccw card and conceal it like many others do.
If a criminal can see that you are holding, chances are they will not even think about starting trouble.
I suppose the issue is that on the whole, we don't need a gun to protect ourselves. I guess that means our society doesn't have as many criminals as you do. We certainly don't have as many gun related murders as you do.
Don't need a gun to protect yourself or don't protect yourself at all and hope the next guy gets victimized? Your rates of violent crime are actually higher overall. The difference is, I guess, is the mentality. Like a herd of sheep, your defense lies in the statistical probability that you will not be the one victimized...the other guy will. Also the mentality of "the life of the rapist is more important than the woman's vagina. Vaginas eventually recover from rape but death is forever so don't kill the rapist to stop him." I've seen both mentalities in the UK the various times I've been there.
The mentality of law abiding gun owners is we hope we don't have to use one but if we do we want to be able to have one and we don't care about the health or well being of the criminal. If he didn't want to get shot, he should have not decided to be a criminal in the first place.
Our rate of violent crime is not higher, we just record more things than you as being a violent crime.
If you really think we have more gun related murders than the US then you have no idea about what you are talking about.
Look at you moving the goal posts in between sentences.
All gun crime is violent crime, but not all violent crime is gun crime.
Now, he was talking about apples. You should resume talking about apples.
I'm not changing goal posts. We may have a figure that looks like we have more violent crime than you but we don't. Not all crime is violent. But we categorise more types of crime as being violent than you. If you compare our gun crime to yours it is lower. If you compare our murder rates to yours it is lower.
bigfatfurrytexan
bluesilver
bigfatfurrytexan
bluesilver
NavyDoc
bluesilver
thesaneone
reply to post by bluesilver
Why would it be bad?
An armed society is a polite society.
I would like to invite you and any other person that is afraid of an inanimate object to come and hang with me in Arizona, this way you will see how civilized responsible gun owners are.
Walk into the local grocery store and you will see at least a dozen people walking around with their gun on their hip or if you choose you can get a ccw card and conceal it like many others do.
If a criminal can see that you are holding, chances are they will not even think about starting trouble.
I suppose the issue is that on the whole, we don't need a gun to protect ourselves. I guess that means our society doesn't have as many criminals as you do. We certainly don't have as many gun related murders as you do.
Don't need a gun to protect yourself or don't protect yourself at all and hope the next guy gets victimized? Your rates of violent crime are actually higher overall. The difference is, I guess, is the mentality. Like a herd of sheep, your defense lies in the statistical probability that you will not be the one victimized...the other guy will. Also the mentality of "the life of the rapist is more important than the woman's vagina. Vaginas eventually recover from rape but death is forever so don't kill the rapist to stop him." I've seen both mentalities in the UK the various times I've been there.
The mentality of law abiding gun owners is we hope we don't have to use one but if we do we want to be able to have one and we don't care about the health or well being of the criminal. If he didn't want to get shot, he should have not decided to be a criminal in the first place.
Our rate of violent crime is not higher, we just record more things than you as being a violent crime.
If you really think we have more gun related murders than the US then you have no idea about what you are talking about.
Look at you moving the goal posts in between sentences.
All gun crime is violent crime, but not all violent crime is gun crime.
Now, he was talking about apples. You should resume talking about apples.
I'm not changing goal posts. We may have a figure that looks like we have more violent crime than you but we don't. Not all crime is violent. But we categorise more types of crime as being violent than you. If you compare our gun crime to yours it is lower. If you compare our murder rates to yours it is lower.
Gun crime is obvious. Yes. Less guns = less gun crime.
Gun crime is silly. Violent crime is violent, gun or not. I wouldn't consider non gun violent crime to be more desirable than violent crime including gun crime.
That said...yes. In our southern states we have a higher murder rate. I would bet that if England shared a 2000 mile border with Mexico, your violent crime rates would be a bit higher, too. If you look at our northern states, the violent crime rate is right in line with the rest of the "civilized world".
edit on 3/19/2014 by bigfatfurrytexan because: (no reason given)
thesaneone
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
That judge is my next gun I think it is perfect for hiking the back trails here in Az.
You are completely correct about out running wildlife.
My first hunting trip (deer) out of state was down by my uncle in Arkansas and (he forgot that in northern Illinois we don't have a wild hog problem) while walking to our stand a hog came charging out of the bush right for us scared the living hell out of me good thing uncle had his side arm (45) and put it down, to this day I remember the look in that hogs eyes and those razor sharp tucks and because of that I carry always when walking the trails.
bigfatfurrytexan
thesaneone
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
That judge is my next gun I think it is perfect for hiking the back trails here in Az.
You are completely correct about out running wildlife.
My first hunting trip (deer) out of state was down by my uncle in Arkansas and (he forgot that in northern Illinois we don't have a wild hog problem) while walking to our stand a hog came charging out of the bush right for us scared the living hell out of me good thing uncle had his side arm (45) and put it down, to this day I remember the look in that hogs eyes and those razor sharp tucks and because of that I carry always when walking the trails.
I was never fond of Taurus weapons. The Judge kind of changed my mind. The action isn't the best in the world, to be honest. Taurus weapons tend to lack some of that refinement. I have a Taurus .40 S&W that the slide was left very sharp. A little careless with hand placement, and the slide ripped the top of my right thumb open from one side to the other. I learned a few valuable lessons that day, actually.
troylawson
bigfatfurrytexan
thesaneone
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
That judge is my next gun I think it is perfect for hiking the back trails here in Az.
You are completely correct about out running wildlife.
My first hunting trip (deer) out of state was down by my uncle in Arkansas and (he forgot that in northern Illinois we don't have a wild hog problem) while walking to our stand a hog came charging out of the bush right for us scared the living hell out of me good thing uncle had his side arm (45) and put it down, to this day I remember the look in that hogs eyes and those razor sharp tucks and because of that I carry always when walking the trails.
I was never fond of Taurus weapons. The Judge kind of changed my mind. The action isn't the best in the world, to be honest. Taurus weapons tend to lack some of that refinement. I have a Taurus .40 S&W that the slide was left very sharp. A little careless with hand placement, and the slide ripped the top of my right thumb open from one side to the other. I learned a few valuable lessons that day, actually.
The Taurus in my opinion is one of the better revolvers you can buy, I'm sure there are worse. I had a S&W .44 Magnum 6" barrel in CA. That gun was great, but I got rid of it. I picked up a Taurus Model 66 at Gander Mtn. here in MI and that is every bit as fun to shoot as the S&W .44. It also holds 7 not 6. It is also a dual action, which you can fire without cocking back the hammer, cock the hammer back and fire or there is an intermediate position in between uncocked and cocked. The rear sight is adjustable, obtaining accurate groupings is relatively easy. Very nice. I also have the Taurus .380. It is a semi-automatic. You should have gone with a Glock or Hi-Point for a .40 semi. The Judge is a very attractive gun. A .45 round and a .410 shotshell. Only drawback would be 5 round capacity. But still seems like a great gun. I would highly recommend the Judge. Taurus revolvers are an excellent value for the price.
WhoDat09
Well, I didn't read all of this thread just kinda skimmed past the first page ..... I don't "like" guns, a man with a gun killed my cousin ..... however .... I have family members who rely on guns for their livelihood their business is guns, and they are awesome at it! I have other family who love to hunt and they are very good at it too. Guns aren't for me, but who am I to tell you ... NO!! I have never shot a gun, I think it would be fun to learn how to shoot one .... but I know the people I would want to be with in the case of a zombie apocalypse
edit on 23-3-2014 by WhoDat09 because: the gun didn't kill him on it's own