3 Metaphysical Forces rule the world (All people and religions belong to at least one)

I made a thread a while back, and I based it off of Zelda's Triforce which is Power, Wisdom, and Courage. Doing more research, I have to say I was incorrect.

The three forces that rule the world, and which most people live by, are one of these three:

Power

Wisdom

Faith


Power is a way of controlling in order to get whatever you want, whether it is people or things. People who are ruled by power say "when there's a will, there's a way". They want to make their goals happen and they don't want to give up. People who are "strong-willed", practice "magic", believe their actions are special because it's "God's Will" or want to become a "god" themselves, most likely belong to this group.

Wisdom is a way of controlling by gaining an intellectual advantage over others. You learn more about a situation and carefully plan to get the result you want. These are people who say "knowledge is power". They will keep creating strategies until they can come up with a way to get whatever they want. People interested in "spiritual wisdom", "enlightenment", or are on a quest to find a "higher power" belong to this group.

Faith is about trusting that everything will be OK, and letting go of control. Whether it is faith in God, The Universe, or The Unfolding of Life, it releases the desire to control to achieve a goal, but instead, to relax and be in the moment knowing that things (or opportunities that naturally arise - not forced) will come as they are needed. People who believe in "living in the moment", or "giving up and letting God take care of everything" belongs to this group.

reply to post by arpgme

Ok I understand what you are saying, but isn't it stretching quite a lot to say "All people live by one"??

reply to post by Chamberf=6

Chamberf=6
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Ok I understand what you are saying, but isn't it stretching quite a lot to say "All people live by one"??

It is, which is why I didn't say that. I said all people live by at least one. I am aware that people mix it up.

arpgme
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Chamberf=6
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Ok I understand what you are saying, but isn't it stretching quite a lot to say "All people live by one"??

It is, which is why I didn't said that. I said all people live by at least one. I am aware that people mix it up.

edit on 22-1-2014 by arpgme because: (no reason given)

I don't.

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These seem more like reactions, all too human reactions, to the actual forces that rule the world.

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DJW001
I don't.

So what is it exactly that you do? In what way do you live your life? Can you say more than "I don't". I think it is against the forum rules to make a simple post like that.

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Aphorism
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These seem more like reactions, all too human reactions, to the actual forces that rule the world.

arpgme
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Chamberf=6
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Ok I understand what you are saying, but isn't it stretching quite a lot to say "All people live by one"??

It is, which is why I didn't say that. I said all people live by at least one. I am aware that people mix it up.

edit on 22-1-2014 by arpgme because: (no reason given)

Ah, I see you edited the title after my response....

IMO it is still an over-reaching assumption.

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Unfortunately i think you need to add fear, hatred and envy considering they seem to be the driving force behind rather a lot that's happening these days!

Such is the nature of humanity.

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I do not live my life by any of the principles as you have defined them in the OP. The entire idea is reductionist in the extreme. Also, if you are looking for a source of wisdom or insight, there are better places to seek it than in a video game.

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Chamberf=6
Ah, I see you edited the title after my response....

IMO it is still an over-reaching assumption.

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The only 'edit' was to find a way to make the title fit.

And how is it an over-reaching assumption? Elaborate.

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andy06shake
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Unfortunately i think you need to add fear, hatred and envy considering they seem to be the driving force behind rather a lot that's happening these days!

Such is the nature of humanity.

The would also be 'faith'. Out of fear of taking action they go to a higher power for help and have 'faith' that it'll all work out. The hateful uses 'power' without caring of hurting others.

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DJW001
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I do not live my life by any of the principles as you have defined them in the OP. The entire idea is reductionist in the extreme. Also, if you are looking for a source of wisdom or insight, there are better places to seek it than in a video game.

I did not seek this wisdom from a video game. The video game only said 3 powers rule the world, and it wasn't even the three words I mentioned here. Even if I did get my wisdom from a video game, so what? That doesn't make it any less true. There are many real thing (and unreal things) in video games.

You already said this in your 2 word response. My question was, how "DO" you live your life? How do you achieve your goals? What is your usual method (or methods)?

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You already said this in your 2 word response. My question was, how "DO" you live your life? How do you achieve your goals? What is your usual method (or methods)?

I cultivate awareness. I try not to confuse perceptions with labels. I practice the physical and mental skills that are necessary, so I can perform them fluently when needed. Am I perfect in these things? No, which I readily admit because I also practice honesty, which is the result of clear perceptions not confused by labels.

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The only 'edit' was to find a way to make the title fit. And how is it an over-reaching assumption? Elaborate.

Well I wish I had taken a screenshot then, to show what original title was.
But saying "(All people and religions belong to at least one)" is still an absolute statement that may be fitting for your life and how you relate to Zelda games, but to say "ALL"????


Elaborate? What I meant by my saying that IMO it was an over-reaching assumption means exactly that.

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I would almost go as far as saying people live their lives based on a "pick two out of three" scheme rather than basing it off of one - mixing it up, like you said, arpgme. If you were to place these three forces on the points of a triangle and asked to only pick two, you can see how they correspond to the various religions and beliefs in the world. At least, that's how I would think of it.

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Yes, that is what I meant by "mixing it up".
I agree. All the methods are a fusion of these ideas, whether it is Hope/Faith, Action to accomplish, or Wisdom to create a plan to achieve. I'm not even sure how people can deny that none of this describes any (or any part of) their methods to a goal...

arpgme
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Yes, that is what I meant by "mixing it up".
I agree. All the methods are a fusion of these ideas, whether it is Hope/Faith, Action to accomplish, or Wisdom to create a plan to achieve. I'm not even sure how people can deny that none of this describes any (or any part of) their methods to a goal...

I just did.

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DJW001

I just did.

I know you did. My question was how did you do that sensibly, because it doesn't make sense based on what you said here:

I practice the physical and mental skills that are necessary, so I can perform them fluently when needed.

That represents the "Action" (physical) and "Wisdom" (mental) category.

Seems like three words to me. If only I did not suffer from this lag.

Faith is a given for some though not necessarily in a box like religion. For they have been guided and have some memories since childhood, not to mention, signs in the sun, perpetually guidance, daily miracles, and in situations like that, when from 2 on, things are grounded in knowledge that there is a wonderful Team and nothing negative lifts off the ground anywhere that matters. ie it may venture forth into a dvd purgatory realm but it never gets higher. Knowing this from an early age seems like it was already given or earned or simply the armour came in with. And am so grateful, because there are many who go through such abuses here and programming even in ritualistic families, or warzones, that may not be able to touch base with their inner knowledge.

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I don't see how this works. I don't seek power or control nor do I devise strategies to achieve goals.
I have no expectations or need of faith. I have no faith.
And if I was wise I might stay well away from control and power anyway.

So...no power, wisdom or faith here.

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Action isn't one of your three principles. Are you upgrading now to four?