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You're 29 Times More Likely To Be Killed By A Cop Than By A Terrorist

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posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 12:33 AM
reply to post by tothetenthpower

The militarizing of the police with swat gear and busting in of doors of people who have not demonstrated dangerous behavior is a crime against the Constitution of America . Having possession of a legal fire arm in their home is not a reason to execute a no knock warrant . Yet they have embraced that notion . Not all police has gone off the edge but the Maryland police have and now in Texas .

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 12:39 AM
reply to post by tothetenthpower

well, there ya go. that didn't take long. but i think your gonna get your wish. the cops are in the process of desensitizing the military so the can be used against us. no surprise there. want proof. they were sent to aftalibanstan in a law enforcement capacity. terrorism is by law a crime. not a threat to the national defense, i.e., and act of WAR. remember when there was a huge hullaballo about some knucklechuck wanting the us troops deployed overseas to "mirandize" terrorists that the captured on the "field of battle" ? if there's any part of that sentence that doesn't make you shudder, you are obviously much more medicated than i am. !

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 12:40 AM
reply to post by tothetenthpower

I agree. But continually just yelling "cops are bad mkay" is only compounding the problem.

I'm glad you agree but I am not sure what you're agreeing to since the whole of my post centered around one idea. I guess I didn't articulate it very well. My point certainly wasn't that the amount of bad cops was greater than X%, or that people are correct to say 'all cops are bad'. It is, as a previous member understood from my post, a matter of how the 'good cops' treat the situation of the 'bad cops'. If you don't see how the accountability you believe is paramount is applicable there I'm not sure i'll be able to further convey my angle. In fact how their community views the issue is of even more importance I think since they are closer to it and subsequently more effectual that way. It's like the saying goes only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good cops to do nothing. Something like that…

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 12:44 AM
reply to post by tothetenthpower

I don't think 800 thousand cops for 330 Million Americans is too much..

In my view that's about half a million too many. We got ex-mayor's like Bloomberg bragging about his "standing army," we've got city cops, we've got federal cops we've got fake mall cops, we've got cops in cars, cops in helicopters, cops on motorcycles.

Frankly we've got cops coming out our ears. I say enough. Keep and enhance the sheriff's departments, boost the US Marshal's if needed. We've no need for 5th column armies in our heartlands that do nothing to protect and serve. We all know who they answer to ultimately and it certainly isn't the everyday citizens IMO.

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 12:56 AM


Over 5,000 people have been killed in the US by police than US soldiers have fallen during the Iraq war over the last 10 years. The figure seems to reflect the increased militarization of police and, shockingly, means that you are 29 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist
Turns out the cops are more dangerous than the imaginary terrorists:

The Lip TV link
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Unless you're one of the rich and powerful.

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 01:01 AM
The reports are coming in so fast and furious complete with videos and multi-million dollar settlements regarding people being medically raped based on a police dog's errant smelling abilities, that I'm beginning to think that a substantial proportion of the nation's 'peace officers' are high on steroids without any clue as to how out of control they can get without any warning on the damn things.

They all need to be drug tested at least monthly, have them all pay a penalty if ANY of their fellow officers end up being the subject of a successful lawsuit of excessive force so as to encourage self policing, and of course held to a higher standard than was obviously the case in the recent horrific beating death of a homeless man. I'd rather see the prisons emptied of harmless intoxicant users and used instead to put these people away forever; we certainly have the room in our prisons for them.

Until this problem is fixed, no one is safe even in their own homes. It is the utmost of societal breakdown when we can't trust those people we have entrusted our safety to and whose salaries we pay.

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 01:51 AM
reply to post by signalfire

Not being safe in our homes is an understatement. Not to put to fine a point on it but in addition to the steroid use we now have them armed with stuff like this:

The MRAP is not the only gift Utah law enforcement agencies have received from the military. In the two-year period beginning in October 2011, Utah police received 1,230 rifles, according to records the Defense Department provided to The Tribune. Utah police also received four grenade launchers. link

Do we really need cops with MRAP's and grenade launchers? Call me suspicious but I don't think so.

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 02:04 AM
reply to post by signalfire

Not completely mind blowing, the U.S government doesnt ever seem to care or patrol its own citizens or officers. All the attention is placed on what doesnt concern them

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 07:09 AM

reply to post by signalfire

The point?

We spend far more on 'terrorism' than we do proper policing. Perhaps if it was the reverse we would not have a perceived cop problem in the US.


Actually I think they have the policing perfected quite nicely for them. Why spend more when the goals of fear, murder, torture etc are being attained?

Especially when the robot thugs really enjoy what they Do?


posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 07:54 AM
The focus has to be on an imaginary enemy half a world away.

If the focus were put on the psychotic badge-wearing maniacs next door people would notice. They'd demand accountability.

While the nation focuses on terrorists in caves there is no real accountability. Nobody can see it or live it so nobody questions the results.

It's all slight of hand. Watch the war over there so you don't notice the war in your backyard.

While the country stares at Sochi looking for their murder porn how many people will be murdered at home by their protectors?

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 08:05 AM
reply to post by thisguyrighthere

Is it not a little unfair to say that cops are more dangerous then terrorists by using this statistic?

I mean terrorists kill innocent people. Cops kill criminals that are a threat to their life or innocent citizens lives. I understand cops can and have killed innocent people. It is wrong and they should be held accountable. That is not the point though.

Of course cops kill more people then terrorists.

What a dumb way to try and make cops look bad.

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 08:12 AM
reply to post by TorqueyThePig

Maybe. 29 times is quite a lot more though. If you take out all the known "bad guy" killings what would that do to the number? Cut it in half? Thirds? Fifths? Tenths?

That's still a pretty high number.

I'd like to see it worked out. How many unarmed deaths, how many traffic deaths, how many unintentional taser deaths, how many beating deaths, etc... versus how many genuine force on force deaths.

Without an exchange of fire or some other extenuating circumstance isnt it up to a jury to find the suspect was actually a "bad guy" anyway? Or are we working with the notion that a cop wouldnt be talking to you in the first place unless you did something wrong?

The BJS has been loosely keeping track of "arrest-related" deaths which likely paints a much more accurate picture of what we're talking about here.

It, unfairly in my opinion, includes suspect suicides: Arrest Related Deaths
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posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 08:44 AM
People who die at the hands of peace officers bring it on themselves 99.9% of the time.
Any time some one dies at the hands of law enforcement there is an investigation.
After 9/11 citizens were demanding the gummint keep us safe. We set out after militants overseas and implemented Homeland Security. Now the same people who demanded to be kept safe are complaining about taking their shoes off at the airport.

Sheep need shepherds and guard dogs.

Any stats of police who have died or been attacked at the hands of criminals? Any anecdotes about police who get run over during traffic stops?
A few years ago a Maryland policeman named Eddie Planck pulled a vehicle over on a routine traffic stop and got shot and killed on the highway. Any wonder law enforcement (in Maryland and elsewhere) approach vehicles or situations with hand on weapon?

There's brute cops just like there's brute internet posters and brute anything else, but overall the police are the good guys. Can you imagine what the streets of NY or Detroit would be without them???

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 08:50 AM
reply to post by thisguyrighthere

I agree with the notion that the statistics need to be broken down more.

I would venture to say a vast majority of the deaths caused by police officers were the result of shooting someone that was actively shooting at them, or someone else, or shooting someone that was armed with a knife and was a threat.

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posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 11:13 AM
reply to post by works4dhs

There are a lot of unanswered questions about 911 . But 911 was the spring board for a new terrorist organization called Homeland Security . Common citizens are being classified as Domestic Terrorist to enable the HLS to abuse their rights . The Patriot act is an enabler for the suppression of our rights and works well for the Globalist to break down our Constitution .The Patriot Act circumvented the Posse Comotatus Act and laid ground for the Civil Army as big and well funded as our Military that was initiated by the NWO puppet Obama . The reinvented Hillary Health Care called Obama care is another way of destroying the Health system knowing the Republicans will defund it first chance they get thus further destroying the American peoples confidence in the American government pushing them ever closer to "a new and better" Global governance . The Zionist Elite have it figured right that we Gentile (Goy ) will never see the big picture of the eminent doom that hangs over our heads . Instead we chase the little rabbits before us .

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 11:59 AM
reply to post by Ex_MislTech

The 'fishead' documentary is quite compelling but personally I feel it was irretrievably cheapened by the incessant and almost childish injection of the 'fishead' symbol. It renders it amateurish and self-serving. Hopefully someone with a more professional and refined sense of film-making will take-on the subject matter.

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 12:20 PM
Its funny America has the problem of cops shooting people dead and totureing people over minor offences.

Britain we are having a debate on if we can give our police water guns.

Erm I thought you guys broke away from us because of Tyranny?

posted on Jan, 22 2014 @ 01:51 PM
reply to post by signalfire

Wish I had a clip of rhis but here is Joe Swanson from The Family Guy berating a bunch of bad cops in the episode Cool hand Peter.

You took an oath just the same as me, Sheriff.
To protect and serve.
Not to harass and douche.
Just 'cause you have a badge doesn't mean you can treat people any way you like.
And as a law enforcement professional, you have an obligation to be more ethically upstanding than the average man, not less.
Now, get the hell out of my town.

posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 02:26 AM
Ive been victimized by police in several different instances where they have threatened my life and the lives of everyone around me just because i was there, ive been beaten.. framed.. harrassed.. Sexually harrassed.. illegally searched more times than i can count... Theyve made threats against me, And the witnesses.. ive been arrested and taken too jail without being read my rights.. Ive had illegal searches of my house.. then they tried too kill my pets. The list goes onnnn and on.

posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 10:37 PM
reply to post by signalfire

Why would they compare it to US military who have died in Iraq?

First of all, Iraq has nothing to do with "terrorism".

Secondly, the comparison should be between cop murders vs murders due to terrorism within the US.

That number would quickly climb, maybe 29,000,000 times more likely?

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