The Art of Imagination

Hi, i would like to engage the ATS community in a conversation about the art of creativity. Please participate in this thread with an open mind. I want to discuss how you have ideas, what you do to evolve them, and how you apply them.

First i would like to discuss the path i use to create my own ideas and play with them;

1.) Word play- I use word play for first discover and create new ideas.
2.) Communitcating my ideas- I like to use ATS and close friends of mine to outwardly express my ideas and see how they sound and choose which words best describes them.
3.) Feedback- I like to then contemplate my feedback and continue to work on the idea.

I have a lot of ideas, every 2 minutes i have an idea. I have no problem going over them and seeing the true potential and the problems inherintly involved in them. I do however have a few issues. I can easily see the bigger picture, i can come up with things that spawn multinational fortune 500 companies, or i can easily problem solve consciousness and complex mathematical equations with little to no training, HOWEVER. I have problems thinking logically on a smaller plane such as, where to start, what the immediate need is for a successful process initiation, writing business plans, securing finances.

I want to see what people think about what i am offering and how people inact their own ideas to be more successful. This thread will be important for myself and many others who may want to do something bigger and different.

Anyway lets see where it goes.

Come on ATS!

Lets talk about manifesting your creativity into the physical world!!

onequestion
Come on ATS!

Lets talk about manifesting your creativity into the physical world!!

Writing computer programs involves creativity of the mind.

Its a bit like writing a book.
Firstly a language is picked which could be English, Spanish, French or C#, Javascript, Fortran.

Then the book could be classed as fiction, non-fiction, biography or encryption, database management, sensors.

What age band is the book directed at ? Is it child or adult. Many programs are structured for beginners and advanced users.

Every language is built on its own words. Every computer language has its own 'Reserved' words.

Is this what you are getting at ?

reply to post by Rapha


Hey Rapha funny you mention.

I am taking classes for webmastering at the moment. Granted they are free online courses from the code academy but i have a background in networking and adminastration with a few visual basic classes here and there.

You have any suggestions for a Linux language that has the same functionality of VB and maybe even a similar syntax?

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I have found that some of the most creative discussions I have had were actually the most conflictual. Opposites clashing can be extremely fertile, complimentary. Unfortunately I find that is often underestimated and misunderstood. When the other starts to write"You are trying to get the last word", "You are trying to shut me up" It is clear they don't get it- which is too bad!

I tend to be best friends with people rather opinionated and independent and who apppreciate active discussion for this reason. The best ideas are clarified, fortified, and brought into practical manifestation through the resistance and pressure of others.

My husband and I usually aid each other this way. The difficulty lies in the way the person being the pragmatic voice can feel like they are being a pessimestic downer. You have to remind yourself that the idea will most likely have to transform as it translates from mind to matter...

ETA- please excuse my errors, I am using my phone late at night, whivh isn't easy for me!

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I have found that some of the most creative discussions I have had were actually the most conflictual. Opposites clashing can be extremely fertile, complimentary. Unfortunately I find that is often underestimated and misunderstood. When the other starts to write"You are trying to get the last word", "You are trying to shut me up" It is clear they don't get it- which is too bad!

Make all the errors you want.

I agree its hard to find someone who can reflect with you without involving emotions. Anyone you can do that with is a keeper.

reply to post by onequestion

 

I am taking classes for webmastering at the moment. Granted they are free online courses from the code academy but i have a background in networking and adminastration with a few visual basic classes here and there.

You have any suggestions for a Linux language that has the same functionality of VB and maybe even a similar syntax?

Well, firstly Linux was based on the operating system UNIX so the nearest third generation language you could use would be C++.
i don't know if C# is free.

As for getting a free object orientated language like VB6, i am not sure whats out there. i have been based purely in MS Windows OS using VB.NET and C#. Python is free and close to VB as it doesn't use the squigly brackets [].

Pascal and Modula-2 might be possibilities but they are very old now and not object based.

If you are going to be designing webbased pages, then use PHP and Javascript. They are free.

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I got really bored with the webpages.

I think Python is the way to go for basic learning. I took a pascal class about two years ago and data structures if good knowledge but im not that deep yet.

Figure ill dedicate myself to learning Python since the webmastering is somewhat boring and not want to do. Im taking classes off the code academy website. They are really good and with my background in computers i can actually learn from it. Plus any questions i have i just google them, its like going to college but better.

Im looking into options for taking accredited courses online but untill the next semester starts im going to do what im doing just to get as much knowledge accumulated as possible before i do it. Figure itll make it easier to breeze through the accredited program and with the high repition i can actually remember what im learning.

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Hey buddy how's it going? I like your thread.

Have you ever heard of Alan Moore? He writes graphic novels and practices a magic system similar to Crowley. He wrote a graphic novel named Promethea that I think you would like! Its about THE imagination. You can order it off Amazon.

reply to post by onequestion

 

I got really bored with the webpages.

Lol. And trying to get the webpage to be flexible with every browser is a nightmare, especially IE6 (shudder in horror).

I think Python is the way to go for basic learning.

What gets me with Python is how items are nested by using TAB indents. That is asking for trouble. Lol

Im taking classes off the code academy website. They are really good and with my background in computers i can actually learn from it. Plus any questions i have i just google them, its like going to college but better.

Solve a problem with a cool CV. Got a problem, search the internet (crtl)C, goto editor (crtl)V. Problem solved. Its the ultimate CV.

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Oh nice Blue. Im going to have to check it out.

No response from Semper on the podcast yet. We got a little deep and the occult is a tough appeal to the uninitiated so its tough.

reply to post by Rapha


Yeah i actually just discovered what you said with python and indents. Thats going to get really anoying i can tell already.

I have enough knowledge i think im just going to jump into C. And yeah i learned about how much of a pain in the ass it is to have dynamic webpages functional enough to use over the different browsing platforms.

Hope i said that right.

reply to post by onequestion

A very interesting topic. I hope that there will be good practical contributions from ATS members.

For my part, I was taught that the mind should focus on the matter at hand and not let other ideas interfere. Imagine having 20 little men inside your mind. One moment they are told to get something done. So they set out to achieve the task. Then ,the next moment , they are pulled back and sent in a different direction. Then they do not know anymore whether they are coming or going and ultimately nothing gets achieved.

Clarity of mind is an important prerequisite .

reply to post by crowdedskies


Thats so true!

Its seems like your climbing a mountain when its just a molehill. Being sidetracked that easily could probably make a seemingly easy task complicated.

Besides when your mind is that crowded wheres the room to allow space for creation?

onequestion
reply to post by crowdedskies

 

Thats so true!

Its seems like your climbing a mountain when its just a molehill. Being sidetracked that easily could probably make a seemingly easy task complicated.

Besides when your mind is that crowded wheres the room to allow space for creation?

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The space will be there if you can control your thoughts.

I remember how, when I was much younger, thoughts were continuously racing through my mind. Later I learnt that thought control was the first initiation into magic.

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With control comes focus right?

onequestion
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With control comes focus right?

Yes.

But you would need to practice thought control, probably in the following order

1)Close eyes watch your thoughts for say 5 mins everyday - but do so an an observer
2)When good at the above, move to next stage of blocking thoughts so that less and less come through
3)When good at both of the above (after few weeks ,or months depending) , try to block everything coming.

You will be surprised of the results.

When you have mastered the above, you can then practice having one idea (and only one) that you then follow in your mind. You see all its stages develop under your will. You imagine where it is going. Same as you did before except there will no longer be interference.

Above is not just my personal suggestion; it is also adhered to by serious students.