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Those "nonrandom" vids are exactly what I asked you not to do. WE CAN ALL place videos up!! Form an argument and use your own perspectives and analysis. How hard is it too scrummage around for vids?
Fictional police states
Main article: List of fictional police states
Fictional police states have been featured in a number of media ranging from novels to films to video games. George Orwell's 1984 has been described as "the definitive fictional treatment of a police state, which has also influenced contemporary usage of the term".
reply to post by Rosha
JFK was the first to openly announce the existence of a conspiracy to enslave every man woman and child within the USA..was he a 'nut' too? Hm?
I believe you are talking about the communism speech which is just cold war rhetoric. That should not be purveyed as fact. (If I'm mistaken please correct me.)
reply to post by projectbane
Scrummage for videos and images?
The ones I posted are personal images taken by me, The girl in the video below well friend of mine.. Ya... no not really.. Some of this does happen in the town you live in.. Just saying...
Pull your head out of your ass, its funny with you people.. Its not an issue till it happens to you...
BTW Like my sig man.. you should listen to the rest of the song.
Just for you projectbane
edit on 1/18/2014 by ThichHeaded because: (no reason given)
ust cold war rhetoric? Hm.
Tell me where he speaks of Cold War/Russia here?
He is talking about the conspiracy of silence - fear and intimidation, the enforcing of SECRECY already b by this time that was effecting his OWN government.
This has been grossly distorted. Clipped, cut up, and slapped together to convey an entirely different meaning. They leave in Kennedy saying “Ladies and gentlemen,” then clip out the entire first 1/3 of the speech. Not only that, but then segments of the speech are cropped out of it, completely stripping any context out of it.
If only this capitalistic New York newspaper had treated him more kindly; if only Marx had remained a foreign correspondent, history might have been different. And I hope all publishers will bear this lesson in mind the next time they receive a poverty-stricken appeal for a small increase in the expense account from an obscure newspaper man.
I have selected as the title of my remarks tonight “The President and the Press.” Some may suggest that this would be more naturally worded “The President Versus the Press.” But those are not my sentiments tonight.
But in the absence of open warfare, they recognized only the tests of journalism and not the tests of national security. And my question tonight is whether additional tests should not now be adopted.
Every newspaper now asks itself, with respect to every story: “Is it news?” All I suggest is that you add the question: “Is it in the interest of the national security?” And I hope that every group in America–unions and businessmen and public officials at every level– will ask the same question of their endeavors, and subject their actions to the same exacting tests.
I have no intention of establishing a new Office of War Information to govern the flow of news. I am not suggesting any new forms of censorship or any new types of security classifications. I have no easy answer to the dilemma that I have posed, and would not seek to impose it if I had one. But I am asking the members of the newspaper profession and the industry in this country to reexamine their own responsibilities, to consider the degree and the nature of the present danger, and to heed the duty of self-restraint which that danger imposes upon us all.
reply to post by boncho
Ahh that denial based argument..sigh. Been there..done that too. I suppose if Hitler had been accepted into art college instead of getting rejected we'd not have had the second world war too ...right?
Specious reasoning at its best.
For what its worth... 'pat pat'...you win..go back to sleep..we're all going great..life is a peachy rose...everything juuust fine.
I really dont have time to play today....and hey..it's your country..you wake up and go clean it up..we have enough work to do keeping our politicians form selling us out.
enjoy your bliss.
On October 1, 1962, James H. Meredith became the first black student at the University of Mississippi, after being barred from entering on September 20 and several other occasions in the following days. His enrollment, publicly opposed by segregationist Governor Ross Barnett, sparked riots on the Oxford campus, which required the U.S. Marshals. Later on (federal) U.S. Army military police from the 503rd Military Police Battalion were sent by President John F. Kennedy.
The riots led to a violent clash which left two people dead - French journalist Paul Guihard, on assignment for the London Daily Sketch, who was found behind the Lyceum building with a gunshot wound to the back; the second victim was 23-year-old Ray Gunter, a white jukebox repairman who came by out of curiosity.
reply to post by Rosha
What does that have to do with the JFK speech?
The detention sections of the NDAA begin by "affirm[ing]" that the authority of the President under the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists (AUMF), a joint resolution passed in the immediate aftermath of the September 11, 2001 attacks, includes the power to detain, via the Armed Forces, any person, including a U.S. citizen, "who was part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners", and anyone who commits a "belligerent act" against the United States or its coalition allies in aid of such enemy forces, under the law of war, "without trial, until the end of the hostilities authorized by the [AUMF]". The text authorizes trial by military tribunal, or "transfer to the custody or control of the person's country of origin", or transfer to "any other foreign country, or any other foreign entity"
One...this is thread about police state not JFK.
Two..those points listed where the very outcomes of ignorance and apathy he was speaking of!
I am not saying by any means that there was not a radical fear or paranoia as relates to communism during this time..I am only saying it was not the only fear there was..and history has shown that the infiltration was not what they thought, and the context of control and enslavement was much larger than any of them at the time even realized.
last post..have work to do.
A state in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic, and political life of the people, especially by means of a secret police force.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
1. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) a state or country in which a repressive government maintains control through the police
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged
A totalitarian state controlled by a political police force that secretly supervises the citizens' activities.
(2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces. - See more at: ndaa2012.us...
reply to post by projectbane
The first amendment gives you the right to say and think whatever you like. It also gives you the right to be totally and completely wrong.
When you and I end up in a FEMA camp or prison and you are crying "How could this have happened?" , well, it's all on you for endorsing the police state and not denying ignorance, as the motto goes. I'll just laugh at you, but I'm sure they will give you a comfy cell because you supported our insane government and the bankers and corporations that control the government.
You may have lived a charmed life where the pigs and "justice" system have not railroaded you. I haven't. I know damned well how bad it is out there, having been the victim myself and knowing what others in my circle have gone through. Like they say, ignorance is bliss and I'm sure after reading your few posts in this thread that you living in bliss, even if that bliss is false because you literally don't live in the real world.
So much more I could say but I'll stop, as I fear I would get banned because I crossed the line from debating you to insulting you.
And FEMA camps. IF they are used for nefarious purposes which there is absolutely NO concrete proof that is what they are then im sure you will be there for something you have brought wholly upon yourself.edit on 18-1-2014 by projectbane because: spelling